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    #92
    Greengrass1
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    Will you sell them or use them yourself?


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    #93
    sheebadog
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Will you sell them or use them yourself?

    Crimp and feed out to stock. Trying to add value to the soya as yields are low.


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    #94
    Damo810
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    sheebadog wrote: »
    Bit of dust about.

    Fancy exporting some topsoil? :D


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    #95
    loveta
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    stanflt wrote: »
    cobactin rumecam or flinixin and shi t e loads of water with chanedol

    if got within 12hours cow will not lose quarter

    Agreed, have had a serious run of it here in the last month, had the vet coming out to two cows one morning with it when i noticed a cow that would normally be in in the first couple of rows come in the last row down in milk, temp, and off her nuts but the milk seemed grand to look at but the vet treated her the same as the other two and she was the only cow that came through with the 4 spins but there is not much time for error


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    #96
    Brown Podzol
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    sheebadog wrote: »
    Bit of dust about.


    Not a stone to be seen. You must get good mileage out of the plough metal.


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    #97
    sheebadog
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    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    Not a stone to be seen. You must get good mileage out of the plough metal.

    Not as much as you would expect. However I attribute that wear to speed.


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    #98
    Deepsouthwest
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    loveta wrote: »
    Agreed, have had a serious run of it here in the last month, had the vet coming out to two cows one morning with it when i noticed a cow that would normally be in in the first couple of rows come in the last row down in milk, temp, and off her nuts but the milk seemed grand to look at but the vet treated her the same as the other two and she was the only cow that came through with the 4 spins but there is not much time for error

    Gentamycin or framamycin(anthing else and ur wasting ur time) with finidine or some other painkiller/anti-inflammatory the very minute a cow is noticed is what's used here, and normally save the quarter as well, and if not saved for this yr, it returns as normal in the nxt lactation. Can't understand a farmer waiting vet in that situation, a few hrs is the difference between a positive and a negative outcome.


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    #99
    loveta
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    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    Gentamycin or framamycin(anthing else and ur wasting ur time) with finidine or some other painkiller/anti-inflammatory the very minute a cow is noticed is what's used here, and normally save the quarter as well, and if not saved for this yr, it returns as normal in the nxt lactation. Can't understand a farmer waiting vet in that situation, a few hrs is the difference between a positive and a negative outcome.



    That's assuming my you get it early.vet was called as the drugs that normally work were not working as I thought they should as for waiting for him to call out 20 mins. Early call before the office opened and there is a few of them on call


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    #100
    Greengrass1
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    How often would you normally dose your heifers for there second year at grass?
    I've a wormer that lasts 5 weeks. They haven't been done since they went out


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    #101
    frazzledhome
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    How often would you normally dose your heifers for there second year at grass?
    I've a wormer that lasts 5 weeks. They haven't been done since they went out

    July and housing with a follow up for fluke after 6 weeks housed


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    freedominacup
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    July and housing with a follow up for fluke after 6 weeks housed

    About a month after turnout and the end of August.


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    #103
    Greengrass1
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    Might do them today then when I put kamars on


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    #104
    mahoney_j
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    Turn them out in feb,give them Bvd shot,late march Bvd booster and Ibr shot and all trace bolus.worm dose early July and then do them for worms and fluke depending on faceal sample at housing.


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    #105
    Greengrass1
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    Let the last 20 calves out today. Happy out running around the spot. I'll bring them in tonight because its supposed to rain. Youngest are 4-5 weeks old so still soft


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    #106
    whelan2
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Let the last 20 calves out today. Happy out running around the spot. I'll bring them in tonight because its supposed to rain. Youngest are 4-5 weeks old so still soft
    letting out the autumn calves today, no more cattle left in now apart from calves and dry cows


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    #107
    freedominacup
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    Any glanbia suppliers out there? How have ye gotten on over the past few years with the fixed price scheme? Form just arrived in the post. Yer man the dairy board chairman was talking down milk price in the indo yesterday but was looking forward to years of gravy in the Sunday Times business section last week. Hard to know which set of views to take on board esp since they were both expressed by the same guy.
    He said traditional Irish produce such as Kerrygold butter would be limited to niche markets.
    "They don't have the ability to produce enough dairy," he said. "They have land problems, they have water problems and they have very fast growing populations."

    The second quote is from the Sunday Times where he spent a couple of paragraphs explaining on some detail why the IDB would have no need of an IPO to fund their expansion plans, very much in the vein of a premiership football club chairman declaring his undying support for his under fire manager on the Friday before what everyone recognises as the last chance saloon match for said manager.


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    #108
    conor t
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    sheebadog wrote: »
    Crimp and feed out to stock. Trying to add value to the soya as yields are low.

    Did u ever grow lupins?


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    #109
    sheebadog
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    conor t wrote: »
    Did u ever grow lupins?

    No I never did grow lupins, but I'm told they need a good sup of water.
    What % protein are lupins?


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    conor t
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    sheebadog wrote: »
    No I never did grow lupins, but I'm told they need a good sup of water.
    What % protein are lupins?

    Not sure but think there similar enough to soya, there is winter varieties to as far as I know


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    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,133 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    A question for you dairy famers. We bought a FRxJe cow last week. She is on her 4 lactation. We were buying calves from the farmer (a friend) and he told us about this nice quiet cow the he was going to get rid of because he was concerned about one of her quarters. He suggested that she would be suitable for rearing a few calves.
    Anyway when we got her she was milking 35l a day. I had been giving her calf pencils up till now as I could only get dairy nuts yesterday.
    How much dairy nuts should I feed her. I am giving her three quarters of a 13 gallon bucket twice a day. She is on limited grass cover as we didn't get slurry out on time. She is feeding 5 hex bull calves twice a day.
    Oh I decided to name her as she is the only cow in the village, sorry farm.
    Her name is Biddy :-))


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    farmersfriend
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    Base price wrote: »
    A question for you dairy famers. We bought a FRxJe cow last week. She is on her 4 lactation. We were buying calves from the farmer (a friend) and he told us about this nice quiet cow the he was going to get rid of because he was concerned about one of her quarters. He suggested that she would be suitable for rearing a few calves.
    Anyway when we got her she was milking 35l a day. I had been giving her calf pencils up till now as I could only get dairy nuts yesterday.
    How much dairy nuts should I feed her. I am giving her three quarters of a 13 gallon bucket twice a day. She is on limited grass cover as we didn't get slurry out on time. She is feeding 5 hex bull calves twice a day.
    Oh I decided to name her as she is the only cow in the village, sorry farm.
    Her name is Biddy :-))

    U should give that pup a dish of it tonite to celebrate his survival!


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    #113
    Base price
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    farmersfriend wrote: »
    U should give that pup a dish of it tonite to celebrate his survival!
    That same pup spends most of her time in with the calves licking up milky shi....... :o
    Anyway, am I giving the cow too much, just enough or not enough nuts. It looks an awful lot in the bucket but I don't want her production levels to fail due to lack of grass.
    Dairy cows nowdays are not the same animals that I looked after in my teenage years.


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    #114
    Greengrass1
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    Can ye weigh the nuts to see what kg you ate giving. 35 l of milk for aJEX is exceptional


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    #115
    Base price
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    I will weigh them in the morning with a old fish weighing scales that I have in the jeep. She is slightly larger than medium cow but with a lovely elder.
    This guy has been using JE for years on his FR/HO and visa versa. He has excellent dairy calves and I should know as I have bought, reared and seen lots of them over the years.


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    #116
    Timmaay
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    Be careful about overfeeding her, at one sitting 4kg is enough, say twice a day 8kg max, even at that you are risking acidosis, and her milking her back off if the nuts are too high in protein. She will need a reasonable % of her diet in fodder, likes of grass, silage, maize etc.

    Hangon, 3/4 of a 13gls bucket? Thats like 45l in volume, sounds like wayyy too much?


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    C0N0R
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    Went to an open day yesterday that was on an indoor farm here. Something a bit different to the usual nz grass based system! Didn't hear how many cows it was but must have been 800 plus. Lovely sheds they were in, all year round calving, first 50 days of lactation are three times a day milking and then depending on yield they go back onto twice a day. First year of conversion now and costs looking at $5.50 a solid before debt management but hoping to get it down to $4.60 next year. Diet fed on 4kg grass silage, 4kg maize silage, 4kg lucerne silage, 6kg wheat, small bit of soya, canola and palm kernel and straw as well I think. Was interesting to see.

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    Cubicles all with mats and limed after cows removed for milking.

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    The shed, roughly 40 cubicles a bay and roughly 20 bays long.

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    Nice concrete turning circle at the end of the shed for the diet feeder!


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    #118
    trixi2011
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    C0N0R wrote: »
    Went to an open day yesterday that was on an indoor farm here. Something a bit different to the usual nz grass based system! Didn't hear how many cows it was but must have been 800 plus. Lovely sheds they were in, all year round calving, first 50 days of lactation are three times a day milking and then depending on yield they go back onto twice a day. First year of conversion now and costs looking at $5.50 a solid before debt management but hoping to get it down to $4.60 next year. Diet fed on 4kg grass silage, 4kg maize silage, 4kg lucerne silage, 6kg wheat, small bit of soya, canola and palm kernel and straw as well I think. Was interesting to see.

    20140423_144905.jpg

    Cubicles all with mats and limed after cows removed for milking.

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    The shed, roughly 40 cubicles a bay and roughly 20 bays long.

    20140423_153029.jpg
    Nice concrete turning circle at the end of the shed for the diet feeder!
    what sort of solids per cow were they doing ? is that the rel farm on tomsons track. would of loved to have that shed last week:D


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    C0N0R
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    trixi2011 wrote: »
    what sort of solids per cow were they doing ? is that the rel farm on tomsons track. would of loved to have that shed last week:D

    It was aimed towards crop farmers so wasn't to much spoke about milk production! There doing 2.2 at the moment but that's with all year round calving and it's the first year. I'll let you know more when I get the details emailed out. Conversion cost was $25-30000 a hectare as apposed to the usual $10000! Ya was Willys place just of thomsons track. I'd say the cows would have loved it last week to!


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    #120
    Milked out
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    Nice set up there, would love to build a on a greenfield site like that as opposed the fitting extensions on older buildings. Got a shot of those easyfix cubicles for one of the dry cow pens, they're a grand job. Was talking to the advisor later on about them as he had been in the states for a bit and the opinion of the farmers he had spoke to about them was that cows tended to lie a bit too diagonally hence making them a bit dirter than the steel ones, esp for milkers. He didn't mention anything about injuriers or otherwise. I think one of them had a cubicle which was a combo of plastic and steel which gave enuv flexibilty but obv less that the easyfix ones


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    C0N0R
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    Milked out wrote: »
    Nice set up there, would love to build a on a greenfield site like that as opposed the fitting extensions on older buildings. Got a shot of those easyfix cubicles for one of the dry cow pens, they're a grand job. Was talking to the advisor later on about them as he had been in the states for a bit and the opinion of the farmers he had spoke to about them was that cows tended to lie a bit too diagonally hence making them a bit dirter than the steel ones, esp for milkers. He didn't mention anything about injuriers or otherwise. I think one of them had a cubicle which was a combo of plastic and steel which gave enuv flexibilty but obv less that the easyfix ones

    I was very impressed with them, they would be a lot cheaper I'd imagine? There was the odd one sitting a bit bent but nothing major, how well do they last??


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