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Calls for State to build Mosque in Roscommon

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    #152
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Microdot wrote: »
    This is only the start, next they will be driving the locals out so the can have the place for them self's.
    Sadly this is very true. Look at Whitechapel in london. !


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    #153
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »
    Ballaghaderreen is an awful hole though.
    It's gonna get worse. Just watch. !


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    #154
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »
    Ballaghaderreen is an awful hole though.
    It's gonna get worse. Just watch. !


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    #155
    feargale
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Glenster wrote: »
    Build them one.

    Whats the problem?

    I have a better idea. Let the governments of Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan build Christian churches at the expense of the state,
    What do you think?


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    #156
    Glenster
    Registered Users Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    feargale wrote: »
    I have a better idea. Let the governments of Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan build Christian churches at the expense of the state,
    What do you think?

    The refugees just want a place to worship.

    Just cos Saudi Arabia is a dick doesn't mean we have to be.


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    #157
    cocaliquid
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭cocaliquid


    Muslims are living in the apartment above me there like animals.

    Their female daughter is running non stop. Funny thing there is a park close it sounds like she dose not use it. Wearing no shoes adds to the noise parents are just as bad moving heavy items and constant banging on the ceiling. On the sound of tapping maybe doing crafts ?. Went to complain about the noise the guy wouldn't even give hes real name called himself Jimmy and kept lying.


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    #158
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Glenster wrote: »
    The refugees just want a place to worship.

    Just cos Saudi Arabia is a dick doesn't mean we have to be.

    Actually, a Pakistan National from Longford wants the place of worship

    There is a place of worship, it is no more than 20 miles down the road. A room in the hostel can always be made available too

    Even today, in some Catholic parishes, they have to team up with the next parish and take turns over holding mass in their place every second week due to the shortage of priests .


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    #159
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    cocaliquid wrote: »
    Muslims are living in the apartment above me there like animals.

    Their female daughter is running non stop. Funny thing there is a park close it sounds like she dose not use it. Wearing no shoes adds to the noise parents are just as bad moving heavy items and constant banging on the ceiling. On the sound of tapping maybe doing crafts ?. Went to complain about the noise the guy wouldn't even give hes real name called himself Jimmy and kept lying.

    (1) Call the GNIB , who knows they might be illegal

    (2) Best solution, speak with the landlord /agent


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    #160
    nosilver
    Site Banned Posts: 129 ✭✭nosilver


    If a catholic businessman called for a catholic church to be built by the state in some backwater, would it get any headlines?

    No!

    So why does this? - Because it suits the click bait mentality of the media who feed into the racial prejudices of the uneducated.


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    #161
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    nosilver wrote: »
    If a catholic businessman called for a catholic church to be built by the state in some backwater, would it get any headlines?

    No!

    So why does this? - Because it suits the click bait mentality of the media who feed into the racial prejudices of the uneducated.

    Eh, it very much would make the news. The State having for the building of a church. When did the State ever pay for the building of a church?

    In fact, the media are often rather opposed to The Church butting in on the State affairs . It is fashionable to have a moan about the Church


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    #162
    BrokenArrows
    Registered Users Posts: 7,500 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Donal55 wrote: »
    Aren't all these refugees : architects, barristers, chiropractors,doctors,.......Vets, watchmakers, X ray inspectors and zoologists.

    Why would they be confined to rural areas when all these good jobs are in Dublin?

    Once they have been given the right to work then they are free to apply for jobs wherever they want.
    But while they are being housed by the state then they should be housed in a location that is cheap and by housing people in smaller rural areas they the government will be indirectly pumping money into these areas because the refugees will be spending money in those areas for rent, food and entertainment which is a good thing.


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    #163
    baldbear
    Registered Users Posts: 5,503 ✭✭✭baldbear


    I wonder was this business man involved in the Longford dispute?

    Khaldid Kelly used to live in Longford.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/www.rte.ie/amp/820158/


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    #164
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    nosilver wrote: »
    If a catholic businessman called for a catholic church to be built by the state in some backwater, would it get any headlines?

    No!

    So why does this? - Because it suits the click bait mentality of the media who feed into the racial prejudices of the uneducated.
    Seeing as you are so educated any other ideas eg. How can cocoaliquid get peace in apartment from muselim family of dad na med jimmy?


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    #165
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    Sadly this is very true. Look at Whitechapel in london. !

    I'm in Whitechapel now. How have people been "driven" out tell me?


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    #166
    Hans Bricks
    Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    Why any sane Irish person would welcome our government to finance the religion of Islam to spread its sphere of influence here, given our own recent history with Catholicism and the last decade of terror in Europe, is beyond me.

    Keep it on the continent. Thanks.


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    #167
    Pat 36059
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭Pat 36059


    Mick Wallace will build it , Ming Flanigan will supply the turf for the fire............


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    #168
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    FTA69 wrote: »
    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    Sadly this is very true. Look at Whitechapel in london. !

    I'm in Whitechapel now. How have people been "driven" out tell me?
    Stand outside the tube station and just open your eyes and look around.


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    #169
    cocaliquid
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭cocaliquid


    People can be very native be careful what you wish for.

    There are only here because we were forced to take them. Does anyone one know of friends who socialize with Muslims.


    Treat them right but when its time get them out of the country.


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    #170
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    Why any sane Irish person would welcome our government to finance the religion of Islam to spread its sphere of influence here, given our own recent history with Catholicism and the last decade of terror in Europe, is beyond me.

    Keep it on the continent. Thanks.
    There are already Irish citizens that are Muslim. They have the same right to freedom of religion as any other religion on this island. I don't particularly like the state supporting any religion, and if the state isn't supporting any other faith then they shouldn't start with Islam. But if they are already funding other religions then Muslims have every right to ask for the same support.


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    #171
    Widdershins
    Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    ScumLord wrote: »
    There are already Irish citizens that are Muslim. They have the same right to freedom of religion as any other religion on this island. I don't particularly like the state supporting any religion, and if the state isn't supporting any other faith then they shouldn't start with Islam. But if they are already funding other religions then Muslims have every right to ask for the same support.

    Freedom to practise your religion doesn't mean funding to practise it. It doesn't seem that the state fund religious activity centres as it is. Thank feck.


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    #172
    Pat 36059
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭Pat 36059


    Muslims should not be left isolated or removed from our society. They have a right to religion, Education and shelter in this country . However, They should try to adapt to the country that they wish to reside in. They should dress and behave to blend with the social society that they wish to enter.To use Birmingham as an example city, It is destroyed by the influx from Pakistan / Afghanistan and other troubled areas.
    a mosque is only a place for prayer, can they not use a local hall or a house.


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    #173
    _Kaiser_
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    Pat 36059 wrote: »
    Muslims should not be left isolated or removed from our society. They have a right to religion, Education and shelter in this country . However, They should try to adapt to the country that they wish to reside in. They should dress and behave to blend with the social society that they wish to enter.To use Birmingham as an example city, It is destroyed by the influx from Pakistan / Afghanistan and other troubled areas.
    a mosque is only a place for prayer, can they not use a local hall or a house.

    These "refugees" are here at the goodwill of the Irish State, to give them shelter from war and persecution in their homelands.

    They HAVE no "rights" to anything beyond this. Anything they receive is at the expense and charity of their hosts and surely people fleeing death and torture would be grateful of a warm bed, safe place to stay, and guaranteed meals?
    They are not citizens of this country or indeed Europe and they are (or should be!) here only only on a temporary basis until it's safe to send them home.

    If they don't like that, or don't like the locale or the culture, or they feel they have "entitlements", then they're always free to leave for a country more in-line with their beliefs and expectations.


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    #174
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    If i was running away from certain death and suffering i think a nice quiet rural area where I'm safe and have food and a nice place to sleep would be brilliant.

    If on the other hand I'm actually an economic migrant pretending to be a refugee who expects every demand met then maybe i might be whinging about boredom, I'm sure tho that's not the case at all with any of them :rolleyes:
    And that is the best post in the whole thread and is the real truth to what is happening all over Europe right now.


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    #175
    DanMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 398 ✭✭DanMurphy


    There's an old Americanism -

    'Build it, and they will come'!


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    #176
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,126 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    cocaliquid wrote: »
    People can be very native be careful what you wish for.

    There are only here because we were forced to take them. Does anyone one know of friends who socialize with Muslims.


    Treat them right but when its time get them out of the country.

    Yeah. Because they're human beings. They're not androids or animals. They're people.
    What's wrong with you?


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    #177
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,126 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    These "refugees" are here at the goodwill of the Irish State, to give them shelter from war and persecution in their homelands.

    They HAVE no "rights" to anything beyond this. Anything they receive is at the expense and charity of their hosts and surely people fleeing death and torture would be grateful of a warm bed, safe place to stay, and guaranteed meals?
    They are not citizens of this country or indeed Europe and they are (or should be!) here only only on a temporary basis until it's safe to send them home.

    If they don't like that, or don't like the locale or the culture, or they feel they have "entitlements", then they're always free to leave for a country more in-line with their beliefs and expectations.

    They have rights. They still have both human rights and civil rights. Even animals have rights in this country. To say they have no rights is a gross misunderstanding of what rights are.


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    #178
    cocaliquid
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭cocaliquid


    Grayson wrote: »
    Yeah. Because they're human beings. They're not androids or animals. They're people.
    What's wrong with you?


    From what i have seen they only mix with themselves. While Hindus are very friendly and have no problem adapting to western society.


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    #179
    511
    Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    Grayson wrote: »
    They have rights. They still have both human rights and civil rights. Even animals have rights in this country. To say they have no rights is a gross misunderstanding of what rights are.

    He didn't say they "have no rights" and they certainly aren't entitled to the same rights a citizens of Ireland because they simply are not citizens of this country and should be repatriated A.S.A.P. when their native country is safe.


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    #180
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,126 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    511 wrote: »
    He didn't say they "have no rights" and they certainly aren't entitled to the same rights a citizens of Ireland because they simply are not citizens of this country and should be repatriated A.S.A.P. when their native country is safe.

    Legally they have far more rights than that.


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    #181
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    511 wrote: »
    Grayson wrote: »
    They have rights. They still have both human rights and civil rights. Even animals have rights in this country. To say they have no rights is a gross misunderstanding of what rights are.

    He didn't say they "have no rights" and they certainly aren't entitled to the same rights a citizens of Ireland because they simply are not citizens of this country and should be repatriated A.S.A.P. when their native country is safe.
    Imo they have a lot more rights then people born in ireland whose heritage goes back centuries.


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