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Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,840 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    arent there porn versions of Marvel movies to cater to that? 😃 though if you want to Venn diagram a movie that pleases everyone aesthetic-wise Wonder Woman probably fits the bill , 52% female audience

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    IIRC the demographics were approx. 50/50 around the time of 2012's The Avengers so not sure you can glean much from gender stats. Maybe it's as simple the filthy casuals are dropping off, increasingly leaving the hardcore fans - and that tends to men who'd be more stubborn and obsessive by nature. After all it's the casual cinemagoers who bulk out any box office, hence the wobbles.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭flazio




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Waititi has burned through his goodwill with me cos his schtick has got more than a little old. Lazy, even. Hunt for the Wilderpeople remains such a wonderful, funny movie but almost everything since has been a little ... I dunno, smug? And I'm seeing early reviews that Next Goal Wins has getting a bit of a critical kicking



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,215 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Ragnarok was brilliant, but he got the balance of comedy so wrong in Love & Thunder to the point where it completely ruined anything else he was trying to do with the film. Such a waste of Christian Bale, Jane's cancer story, and the idea of all the other gods.

    Let's also not forget that New Asgard, after losing their home realm, most of their people and having to re-settle on Earth, then losing probably another half their population in the Blip for 5 years, decide this was a good idea...




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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    I think the problem with marvel is that they've fallen into the comics trap, there are so many stories and variations. That works when you're reading a single comic and you don't "have" to know what's happening in another series, and if there's a crossover or throwaway reference you can skip over it or it can be explained quickly. That's not as easy when you're dealing with films and TV.


    But apart from that they've simply lost control and thrown too much crap at the wall in too short a period. They can't possibly keep track of it all and maintain a narrative anyone would want to invest in.





  • Registered Users Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    The new trailer for madame web just dropped...this wont be a cinema visit for me anyway. One of the most uninteresting marvel/Sony trailers I've watched in recent years! Dear Sony...a Spiderman related movie without a Spiderman does not work!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I see Sony have released a trailer for their latest "look, look, we kinda still have Spider-Man stuff!" movie that's kinda-but-not-really set in the Spider-Man universe...




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    lads, whatever happened to the Kraven movie? did it ever come out?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives




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  • Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    I recently read the God Butcher and Jane Thor storylines, what an absolute waste of material they were for Love and Thunder!



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,138 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Hopefully Marvel told him he wouldn't be welcome back and hes just tryna save face saying he made the decision.

    Love and Thunder just showed he needs to be kept on a tight leash. Full Taika is an utter disaster.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,085 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Full Taika has led to almost all his best work - mainly his New Zealand films and his comedy stuff. Hunt for the Wilderpeople couldn't have been made by anyone else, and it's still comfortably his best work.

    The problem is his particular schtick can easily tip over into annoying or cloying, and the balance that makes his best work tick is a hard thing to get right. Ragnarok is only OK IMO, but pretty much everything else since Wilderpeople (film-wise at least) has been on the wrong side of the divide. Add to that over-exposure, juggling too many projects at once, and frankly a pretty annoying public persona... it's not hard to see how fondness for his style turned to frustration pretty swiftly, and the fact the quality wasn't there was a major factor in that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,890 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


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    Season 2 of the animated series What If…? is set to debut December 22 on Disney+. In the spirit of the holiday season, the streamer will be releasing the episodes one at a time over the course of nine nights.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Feels like a reasonably high budget CW attempt at a feature film. Terrible stuff.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Would it surprise you to learn the director has predominantly worked on TV? It does look pretty terrible & the brief glimpses of superhero costumes look quite cheap



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,215 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Destin Daniel Cretton likely no longer directing Avengers Kang Dynasty, but still with Marvel and will be doing Shang-Chi sequel and he's also involved with the Wonder Man series which seems to still be going ahead.

    Lends further weight to the idea that Marvel might shift away from Kang altogether, possibly just go straight to Secret Wars but with a different villain behind it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Probably. Ragnarok skirted along the line of being a bit over the top and ridiculous. But he managed to keep just about on the right side of that line. With Love And Thunder, he didn't so much go over that line, but catapulted over it. If he hadn't already had a successful and very popular Thor movie under his belt, I'd be surprised he would have even got to finish it, given the absolute state of it. Anyone else would have probably been fired.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Must say I've totally lost interest in the entire thing lately. i've not bothered with Loki Season 2, still haven't watched the last Ant Man, The Eternals and have no interest in The Marvels. I don't like Larson in the role at all. She come across as being disinterested and is fairly bland in the role. Also wasn't that keen on the last Dr.Strange and Spiderman movies. They were fine and serviceable I guess. I'm just fed up and all this multiverse stuff tbh. The original attraction to the whole thing and I think part of the reason Iron Man was such an instant massive success, was that it was fairly grounded, so far as superhero movies go. The Guardians movies are actually my favourites, so I do love a big, fun far out space adventure with all the whacky stuff that comes along with it. It's nice to have a bit of a contrast though.

    The Disney Plus shows started off great with Wandavision, but the rest were a bit of a non event. I had some hope for Secret Invasion. How could you not with that cast! But that shockingly ended up being the worst of all. Feige must be running out of credit at this stage.

    Guardians 3 was of course excellent. So at least there was that. Disney should have done everything to hold onto James Gunn. He should be running things.



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    2025 is a MASSIVE year for the MCU if those movies don’t hit box office gold I imagine the MCU is DOA.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Pedro pascal linked to the new fantastic four movie ..appears to be up in the air if it's for Reed or the villain role

    ***Now confirmed ..Pedro is Mr Fantastic Reed Richards!!!*** That's some quality star power added to the MCU and especially to the revived fantastic four. Hopefully they can finally do it justice

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  • Registered Users Posts: 44,993 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor




  • Registered Users Posts: 30,757 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    any collapse from here would be more like the equivalent of it moving into palliative care 😅



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Apologies the MCU is dead if 2025 doesn’t hit. Better?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Looks more or less confirmed alright, what a choice based on his performance as Oberan Martell alone, as that's all you really need to see to tell you Pascal will do a fantastic job.

    I can't believe there's fans actually complaining from what I've seen elsewhere. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the possibility that this might be the biggest example of race changing a character yet. I'm struggling to think of a character bigger than Reed where it has happened.

    The age complaints for example just don't hold up if you know anything at all about the character.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Agreed, everything he does is gold! I was skeptical of him as Joel in TLOU and he nailed it!

    Javier Bardem now linked to the role of Galactus...another great casting that could even be a Doom worthy casting



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I dunno, I think Wilderpeople had a tempered element to Waititi's humour; perhaps it was simply that the goofiness was offset by a broadly "real" world. Goofy characters yeah but mostly pared back and the world was our own with our own rules. Then there was JoJo Rabbit where even the real world seemed completely fúcking oddball - except when it wasn't for narrative convenience. The Nazis almost uniformly clownish to the nth degree culminating in Sam Rockwell's already ludicrous Nazi wearing a big flouncy costume. Suppose the Thor movies kinda negate that theory being nonsense in a nonsense world - but Ragnarok kinda went all in, while Love & Thunder tried making jokes during scenes about Jane having cancer. Big yikes .

    We're lucky we even got a Guardians 3: IIRC Marvel sacked him over those ancient tweets surfaced as an attack job by conservative voices in America. It was only a fairly public backlash that included the cast saying they'd not work with anyone else, that got him back in the hotseat. A faith that seems confirmed by the fact a few have said number three was their last MCU film.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    2025 is going to have issues but the MCU isn't going to die.

    There is going to be some kind of soft reset to bring in X-men and they'll move forward.

    Marvel is worth too much to Disney, not only in theatres but toys, their parks, clothing etc. Even if a movie bombs it still makes decent money. Worst case they'll just cut back the budget for the movies, which to me would be a good thing so they move away from such heavy CGI and focus away from earth.



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Die may be a harsh term but I think if 2025 doesn’t pan out like they hope I think they will put the brand on hiatus like they’re doing with Star Wars movies at the moment.



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