How is China getting on?

I find it hard to believe that China is covid free.

Thierry12 wrote: »

Why do people keep saying that?

Because people have seen in the past how the Chinese government acted.

If you believe the Chinese government's version of the internet which they feed their own citizens right now, you'll find there was no tiananmen square protest in 1989, there is no tibetan independence movement, and only a couple of people died during Chairman Mao's Great Leap Forward.

The Onion is probably a more truthful publisher then what comes out of China.

Thierry12 wrote: »

2.1 million cars are on the road here

Most of the test centres would be drive-thru

It can be done, it's just we can't

- Everyone in ireland has their own car? There's no way the road network could cope with this, and they'd have to set up about 10,000 tents.

- How quickly would these tests be finished?

Keep in mind that you'd need to keep the transmission rate to 0 during the test time. Even a small percentage can reinfect a whole country without lockdown.

Basically it boils down to lockdown and testing... which is what our government (along with most other governments) is trying to do.

The question it leads to is valid - "can our economy actually afford lockdown?" - but there's no easy answer to a complex problem.

My own opinion is that we probably can't afford lockdown, and the govt will probably have to go back to the original plan, which was to merely smooth out the covid rate so hospitals don't get overwhelmed.
They again with the uncertainty regarding reinfection, they're just playing it safe.

Until there's a vaccine i doubt it'll really be over, so we might have to make the hard choice to just leave lockdown anyway, but its not going to be as simple as just ordering everyone to get tested immediately and we can finish lockdown

The way they do the mass testing is smart. It’s called batch testing. Basically run 100 samples at a time and only zone in if a positive found. Test 50 then 25 then 12etc, very quick way of IDing the few positives. No reason we couldn’t do this also.

Thierry12 wrote: »

Do you want me to go back through our history?

Catholic church

Mass graves

?

China aint perfect and neither are we

You are seriously comparing us to China? What about Hitler? Is Leo Hitler?

The_Brood wrote: »

China has handled the virus as they must have been handled but oh lets listen to a bunch of westerners piss their pants. We are in endless lockdown, no vaccine, economies destroyed, lives destroyed, while China has returned to normal life for many months now....but yeah let's ignore it, China always the evil guys, doesn't matter what topic we are talking about. Thank God we are not China, thank God we are in endless lockdowns! How righteous and happy we are?

Clowns.

China is a disaster beyond the virus they originated.

Us being screwed by China's handiwork doesn't magically make China somehow good.

And if you believe anything coming out of that place, especially "officially", then you should head on over and feel free not to return

The_Brood wrote: »

Countless of westerners, Irish included, working and living there have written and told you freely and openly what the situation is. China is messed up for a lot of things but they dealt with the virus properly and have been free to live their lives for a long while now. Is pretending that isn't so somehow going to help you sleep better at night for your upcoming months of lockdown? Is that what this is about?

Enjoy your lockdown while they get to live. Then tell me who you feel sorry for.

Clowns, again.

I can personally swear that I have not received anything from Mandarin candidates in China.

Virus aside, I do know a few people who couldn't get out of the place fast enough after thinking "it won't be too bad."

It's a surveillance state that took the novel 1984 as a manual.

They are regularly on the brink of disease outbreaks because they have hygiene standards akin to Victorian dumps

They have a hive mentality, like insects, where the individual is of the least importance and have full intent on trying to take over everything they can, including pillaging Africa in a new colonialism that would make the British empire proud.

After having been the root cause of this pandemic, they are actively using the weakness of other countries to buy up everything they can at rock bottom prices. Like vulture funds, but country-size.

There are websites devoted to Chinese "buyers" for Ireland now that opportunity knocks. How nice of them.

They have literal concentration camps, active ethnic cleansing, "re-education"...

I could go on, very easily. The bottom line is that China is a problem that's going to be dealt with one way or another, and the idea of preferring living there to here?! Nooooooooo problem, baby. Fook them and the chaos they have caused

The_Brood wrote: »

At least half of what you said is nonsense and not reflective of reality - clearly you haven't spent any time there. And in any case, this isn't about the many ****ty things about China, it's about the facts of their Covid 19 situation at the moment. Which puts the entire 'enlightened' western world to absolute shame. Enjoy your 'freedoms' of 'not being surveillanced' as we rot away in endless lockdowns. Really worth it that.

Absolutely wrong.

100% plain incorrect.

Everything I mentioned is true, every last single bit.

China as a leading incubator of disease? True.

China aggressively taking over parts of Africa? True

China has a hive-like outlook? True

China caused this disease? True

China capitalising on the devastation it caused? True

China has city-sized concentration camps? True

China has ethnic cleansing underway? True

China has "re-education" centers for dissenters? True

China spies on its own citizens to a degree unheard of? True

China has a "social points" system that punishes people? True

So considering those easily verified facts, whether by BBC or even bloody RTE who were run out of the place during an investigation recently, is it any surprise that the place is portrayed as "normal"? A combination of pure lies and a government/people that enjoy crippling crack-downs on freedom.

And so forth.

So fook China and all its apologist lackeys. Ireland on its worst day will always be better than that place on its best day.