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17-01-2013, 08:32   #61
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As expected Met Eireann this morning have had to radically alter their forecast. It was farcical yesterday to not even mention the risk/potential of something more wintry on the way (rather than blindly choose mild and wet like Gerry did - contrary to all the data available). Many businesses depend on the weather and it is a dereliction of public duty not to at least give them the heads up of potential disruptive wintry weather.

I do not buy the attitude of certain posters that the Irish public could not be made understand that the forecast is only indicating a risk rather than an outright certainty - Evelyn earlier this week did a top job of emphasising the uncertainty and made it as plain as day that they could not give a definitive forecast.

Thankfully, sense has prevailed and this morning they have indicated the possible chance of cold and snow in the short term.
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The Met E website looks like the snow gremlins hacked into it and started switching all that rain to snow over the weekend

Also I see the ramping thread is closed

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It felt like one of my arms was cut off there for a while, on my way over now!
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I am sure just like everyone else in Met Eireann, Gerry Murphy discussed with superiors before giving a forecast. He might put his slant on it but it surely would have the approval of his superiors. To blame one person is certainly not fair and who knows he could still be right. There is nothing certain about snow in Ireland.

We are starting to come into the reliable timeframe for the weekend so I think this warning this morning gives ample time for preparations to be made and outline the possible wintry risk.
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Lets face it Ireland has a lot of moaners. If they said there will be a 30% chance of snow 70% chance of rain at the weekend, people would complain saying sure they don't have a clue what is going to happen. Followed by pfff I don't listen to them anyway then not listen to the weather until next Monday, where in if it did snow, say they never told us about this.

If you depend on the weather for your work, then check in at least once either to the 6:55 or 9:30 weather and check the website. You can't plan an event in a weeks time based on current weather guidance, and expect to get the exact weather that was forecast a week ago all the while never checking any new forecast to see that the outlook has changed dramatically and on the day complain they never told me.

Weather is changeable even over the course of a day, but in general 24 hours out they will be fairly accurate, but a system moving a few miles in a different direction can be the difference in what weather we get or not get.

Also the last time I checked it was winter, in winter we get cold, snow, milder periods, heavy rain, windstorms. So you should prepare for any of these and expect in any given week that we might experience any of those conditions during winter.

Final point, don't blame the messenger, as that's all they are, as far as I am aware they don't control the weather in any way.
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Slept out this morning, thanks to Evelyn for the alarm call doing the weather forecast on RTE1 this morning her lovely soft voice mentioned snow, I was out of the bed like a shot.

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I'm always jumping to the defence of Met Eireann here as I believe in general they do an excellent job however I have to say Gerry's forecast last night was very poor.

Nothing major has changed in 12 hours in terms of the information available yet we have gone from a forecast at 21:30 last night where he didn't even give a risk of sleet or snow to a total different forecast by Evelyn at 07:55 this morning and they have now issued a weather warning! Very Strange

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I'm always jumping to the defence of Met Eireann here as I believe in general they do an excellent job however I have to say Gerry's forecast last night was very poor.

Nothing major has changed in 12 hours in terms of the information available yet we have gone from a forecast at 21:30 last night where he didn't even give a risk of sleet or snow to a total different forecast by Evelyn at 07:55 this morning and they have now issued a weather warning! Very Stange
I truly believe he was at the end of his shift and just thought it was to late in the evening to be bothered! Harsh maybe but it was a call that could be made based on reliable information that there is a "Risk" over the weekend for significant wintry conditions.

Forewarned is forearmed !
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Just seen the latest forecast with Audrey mc grath, she said snowfall for ulster tomorrow.
I do find their system quite lacking in detail compared to the bbc precipitation charts which shows a differentiation between snow and rain, met eireann just have a drawn cloud with precipitation falling out of it which is rather vague and almost childlike.
She then went on to mention wet snow, so its rather confusing as to what to expect tomorrow.
Also I think they should have a warning system for regions similar to the met office uks, more visual stimulus is needed on screen,but of course at times Audrey is all the visual stimulus I need .
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I'm always jumping to the defence of Met Eireann here as I believe in general they do an excellent job however I have to say Gerry's forecast last night was very poor.

Nothing major has changed in 12 hours in terms of the information available yet we have gone from a forecast at 21:30 last night where he didn't even give a risk of sleet or snow to a total different forecast by Evelyn at 07:55 this morning and they have now issued a weather warning! Very Strange
I agree totally,surely the risk of sleet at least had to be mentioned for the mountains or something,i said this last night and was put down because of it,ffs there was snow already at Sally Gap and the fact that there was very cold weather all around us and we are 1-2c either side of snow for the next 5 days at least didn't warrant a mention,whilst at the same time last night their own website had sleet and snow mentioned 5-6 times and now has this warning (nobody expected him to forecast blizzards but what the forecast gave out was a bit unbelievable) :
Issued at 17 January 2013 - 11:06
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Very heavy rain will spread into parts of Munster and Connacht on Thursday and will spread eastwards during the afternoon and evening. There will be some heavy falls with a risk of localised flooding in parts of Munster and Leinster.

The rain will be accompanied by strong to near gale force and gusty southeasterly winds.

There is a risk that the rain will turn to sleet and snow later on Thursday night and towards dawn. Parts of north Leinster and Ulster will be most at risk, with further snowfall during Friday with accumulations mostly on higher ground.

Staying very cold on Saturday for much of the country with a further threat of wintry showers. Very cold, frosty and icy at times

Valid from: 11:00 17th Jan 2013
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I'm always jumping to the defence of Met Eireann here as I believe in general they do an excellent job however I have to say Gerry's forecast last night was very poor.

Nothing major has changed in 12 hours in terms of the information available yet we have gone from a forecast at 21:30 last night where he didn't even give a risk of sleet or snow to a total different forecast by Evelyn at 07:55 this morning and they have now issued a weather warning! Very Strange
A lot changed, models updated during the night firming up on detail nearer the event. The public have plenty notice.
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A lot changed, models updated during the night firming up on detail nearer the event. The public have plenty notice.
Yes.....but.....ECM came out about 3 hours before his 9.30pm broadcast/forecast.

Time will tell, but he could still be proved right!
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Very Little changed, they updated their forecast before 6am online, I didn't expect Gerry to go as far as Evelyn did but he should have mentioned risk imo.
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