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Tommy Robinson jailed

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  • #3032
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    I find it quite amazing how fake news is defined.

    Do you ever notice if you're an expert in a topic, whenever you read an article about that topic on mainstream news source (e.g. the BBC), you're always scratching your head thinking what is this nonsense?

    For example, I'm a HIV expert and practically every article on HIV is wrong. It's always a mix of misinformation and old wives tales. I've also a strong background is statistics, and I constantly see statistics being abused to make fake points.

    And then there's all the political agendas. Look how many BBC articles are written from a feminist perspective.

    It's become very difficult to find genuinely truthful news sources.

    I quite like the commentator Tim Pool. He at least tries to be fair.

    Alex Jones was always kind of ridiculous, but he has really lost the plot these days.

    Expert? Any link to published papers?


  • #3033
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    Expert? Any link to published papers?

    No thanks.


  • #3034
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    No thanks.

    How are you an expert?


  • #3035
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 32,978 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Of course there are negative consequences, but the positives outweighs the negatives.

    You think there are no consequences to curbing speech?

    You should try to think it through. When you properly understand the benefits of free speech, it's impossible to not want it.

    So, no - you do not see consequences. You could use the same argument to disband police, promote pedophilia or declare war.

    I've no problem saying I don't agree with free speech because I do see the consequences. And no, they do not outweigh the preservation of human life.

    When people are caught inciting hatred and promoting violence you better believe I want them censored.

    And when the pretend to be honest when they lie, pretend to be open when they're racist and pretend to want peace when they are trying to share people into commuting violence acts they should be called out on it, not idolised

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #3036
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    How are you an expert?

    College + employment.

    I don't work in that area anymore. But I still read the papers.


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  • #3037
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    So, no - you do not see consequences.

    I've no problem saying I don't agree with free speech because I do see the consequences. And no, they do not outweigh the preservation of human life.

    When people are caught inciting hatred and promoting violence you better believe I want them censored.

    And when the pretend to be honest when they lie, pretend to be open when they're racist and pretend to want peace when they are trying to share people into commuting violence acts they should be called out on it, not idolised

    I just said there are negative consequence, but it doesn't fit your narrative so you have to pretend I said there are no consequences. This is literally what I wrote in response to you:
    Of course there are negative consequences

    You have a very shallow knowledge of this topic.

    Try to think through this little problem:

    How do you define hate speech?

    Anti black? OK.
    Anti gay? OK.
    Anti muslim? OK.
    Anti jew? OK.
    Anti fat? OK.
    Anti skinny? OK.
    Anti ginger? OK.
    Anti Irish? OK.
    Anti conservative? OK.
    Anti whatever-people-get-offended-about? OK?

    Seriously, try to draw the line for what is and is not hate speech. It's impossible.


  • #3038
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    College + employment.

    I don't work in that area anymore. But I still read the papers.

    As? I worked in a courthouse doesnt make me a law expert


  • #3039
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    As? I worked in a courthouse doesnt make me a law expert

    I have no interest in sharing my qualifications and work history with you.

    :confused:


  • #3040
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Tommy Robinson is a hero
    Hes not **** scared of pcbrigade. Guys a legend. !


  • #3041
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    I have no interest in sharing my qualifications and work history with you.

    :confused:

    But a self appointed HIV expert

    I dont buy it


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  • #3042
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    But a self appointed HIV expert

    I dont buy it

    I don't care. Get over yourself.


  • #3043
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 39,485 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    WTF is a HIV expert? :confused:

    Surely that would be a doctor, no?

    Are you a Doctor?


  • #3044
    moonage
    Registered Users Posts: 794 ✭✭✭moonage


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    When people are caught inciting hatred and promoting violence you better believe I want them censored.

    In the UK there are laws against inciting hatred and promoting violence but Tommy Robinson has never been charged with them.

    Panorama should have been about how he's been harrassed and persecuted by the state over the years for expressing his opinions.


  • #3045
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    I don't care. Get over yourself.

    Says the self appointed expert... lolz


  • #3046
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    Why are there so many Tommy fanboys in Ireland?


  • #3047
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    Says the self appointed expert... lolz

    No one can be an expert without explaining their qualifications to you?

    Do you have a slight ego by any chance?


  • #3048
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    No one can be an expert without explaining their qualifications to you?

    Do you have a slight ego by any chance?

    No but when someone self declares themselves expert I expect proof!


  • #3049
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    Boggles wrote: »
    WTF is a HIV expert? :confused:

    Surely that would be a doctor, no?

    Are you a Doctor?

    Like the anti abortion Nurse that was a temporary porter...


  • #3050
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 39,485 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    No one can be an expert without explaining their qualifications to you?

    Well you are either a scientist or a doctor who has extensively studied HIV and probably has been published.

    Which one are you?

    No need for a CV.


  • #3051
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    No but when someone self declares themselves expert I expect proof!

    Yeah, well that's your problem, and says nothing about me.

    Do you ask people for proof in real life? Why are you doing it online? Why do you find it difficult to be civil?


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  • #3052
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Yeah, well that's your problem, and says nothing about me.

    Do you ask people for proof in real life? Why are you doing it online? Why do you find it difficult to be civil?

    How am I uncivil?

    I have yet to met someone who self declared themselves as an expert in real life


  • #3053
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    Boggles wrote: »
    Well you are either a scientist or a doctor who has extensively studied HIV and probably has been published.

    Which one are you?

    No need for a CV.

    Haven't you already answered your question?


  • #3054
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Haven't you already answered your question?

    Snared


  • #3055
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    How am I uncivil?

    I have yet to met someone who self declared themselves as an expert in real life

    Have you never heard of context?

    Go back and read the post where I made the claim.

    Do you think I am walking around the street, shaking people's hands and saying "Hello, I'm an expert"?

    Is that how you see things, or are you able to understand context?


  • #3056
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    I don't care. Get over yourself.

    And I am the uncivil one...


  • #3057
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Have you never heard of context?

    Go back and read the post where I made the claim.

    Do you think I am walking around the street, shaking people's hands and saying "Hello, I'm an expert"?

    Is that how you see things, or are you able to understand context?

    Im no expert but I have a good grasp of it!


  • #3058
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    And I am the uncivil one...

    Yes, you're hassling a stranger online to prove their education and qualifications.

    Do you do this in real life?

    Why are you doing it online?

    Can you really not see the problem here?


  • #3059
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    Why are there so many Tommy fanboys in Ireland?

    The same reason you have people participating in multi-level marketing scams.


  • #3060
    lbc2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Yes, you're hassling a stranger online to prove their education and qualifications.

    Do you do this in real life?

    Why are you doing it online?

    Can you really not see the problem here?

    You made the claim, I asked for evidence. Simple really


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  • #3061
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    The same reason you have people participating in multi-level marketing scams.

    That's not fair.

    I think a more fair example is people who support antifa.

    Both are mostly inventing their enemy, both are extremists (extreme left vs extreme right).


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