BDO Lake World Championship

millhouse · 13-01-2019 11:05pm

Best Lakeside tournament for a long time. Suzuki in the womens being the first asian winner will help promote BDO and womens darts in general. Durrant 3 time world champion in the mens. Anyone who can do 3 times has to be respected.

sc86 · 13-01-2019 11:10pm

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

Does durrant get a PDC card or does he have to go q school?
Was there a thing years ago where the BDO winner got a tour card if he jumped ship or am I raving?

They used to offer tour cards to 4 semi finalists but stopped it mayby 3 years ago

shockframe · 14-01-2019 12:38am

littlesthobo wrote: »

Hunred

These things happen. Mistakes are easily made. I mean look at the title of this thread!!!

Tarzann · 14-01-2019 10:03am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

She played in the 2018 pdc world cup an got whooped let's not get carried away now.

That was a Chinese woman.

Kingp35 · 14-01-2019 10:11am

Tarzann wrote: »

That was a Chinese woman.

Correct, that was Momo Zhou of China. Mikuru Suzuki has never played in a PDC event.

Tarzann · 14-01-2019 12:04pm

Kingp35 wrote: »

Correct, that was Momo Zhou of China. Mikuru Suzuki has never played in a PDC event.

During the World Cup Momo Zhou hilariously celebrated an opponent missing darts at double, Wayne Mardle pointed it out at the time, was harmless but very funny! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieELXMamEM

Suzuki has played on the 2018 PDC Asian men's tour but finished well down the rankings.

https://www.pdc.tv/asian-tour-order-merit

boomdocker · 14-01-2019 12:26pm

Tarzann wrote: »

During the World Cup Momo Zhou hilariously celebrated an opponent missing darts at double, Wayne Mardle pointed it out at the time, was harmless but very funny! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieELXMamEM

looks like she forgot about the cameras

mdwexford · 14-01-2019 1:25pm

Fantastic achievement from Durrant. Really is a quality player.

He’s probably getting on a bit to give the PDC a proper bash. Takes time to move up that two year ranking list.

If he was younger I have no doubts he would be a top 5 player. Has great bottle under pressure, you can’t teach that.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 14-01-2019 5:37pm

Good interview here with the Duzza outlining his future plans.

I've always been very impressed by him, he's meticulous and dedicated in his approach to the game, acting like a professional in a semi pro system.

You're not going to see Duzza propping up the bar all day before a match like some of the other players at Lakeside this year.
I wish him the best of luck in Q school. With his attitude he could get another decent 5-7 yrs out of his game.
Going to be a huge loss to the BDO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHvhQI46SDA

Ronan|Raven · 14-01-2019 11:58pm

https://twitter.com/Duzza180/status/1084879769362145281?s=19

Back at work already.

shockframe · 15-01-2019 12:58am

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Good interview here with the Duzza outlining his future plans.

I've always been very impressed by him, he's meticulous and dedicated in his approach to the game, acting like a professional in a semi pro system.

You're not going to see Duzza propping up the bar all day before a match like some of the other players at Lakeside this year.
I wish him the best of luck in Q school. With his attitude he could get another decent 5-7 yrs out of his game.
Going to be a huge loss to the BDO.

Think he'll be defined by the 3 Lakeside victories. The demands of the PDC events might take it's toll on him. People half his age struggle with it.

He has the right attitude for sure so will be interesting how he gets on.

He'll be a loss to the BDO but it looks like they might have stopped the rot as a sporting body. The lifting of restrictions was a radical move on their part and in general the coverage this year in many ways was far and away better than the last few years.

A new venue might also entice some of the youth players to give the World Championship a go. Would be no harm if the utterly awful no hopers like Robson and Montgomery disappeared now.

It's baffling how Big Robbo was once doing exbo's with Gary Anderson as if some sort of equal

Bob Harris · 15-01-2019 8:13am

shockframe wrote: »

A new venue might also entice some of the youth players to give the World Championship a go. Would be no harm if the utterly awful no hopers like Robson and Montgomery disappeared now.

It's baffling how Big Robbo was once doing exbo's with Gary Anderson as if some sort of equal

Ah here now, that's 'The Boss' you're talking about.

Ultimate Seduction · 15-01-2019 8:20am

Have a feeling Durant won't get a card. Obviously hes good enough but its 4 long days with lots of games, just coming down off the lakeside buzz as well. Looking forward to it this year .

Bob Harris · 15-01-2019 8:38am

I'm not sure getting a card is the best thing for Durrant.

The only issue is if he doesn't ever play PDC the question will always be asked.

sc86 · 15-01-2019 10:25am

not getting a card would be a total disaster for him and bdo
their world champ cant get through q school , hed never live it down

he will find it hard because hes big scalp to take , think he gets one in first 2 days , hes far to good

he knows he needs to do pdc to prove to himself hes good enough , otherwise it will always be what ifs
hes quit the job at end of month - hes put all his cards in the pdc basket
huge pressure now

shockframe · 15-01-2019 5:32pm

sc86 wrote: »

not getting a card would be a total disaster for him and bdo
their world champ cant get through q school , hed never live it down

he will find it hard because hes big scalp to take , think he gets one in first 2 days , hes far to good

he knows he needs to do pdc to prove to himself hes good enough , otherwise it will always be what ifs
hes quit the job at end of month - hes put all his cards in the pdc basket
huge pressure now

Not so sure it would be disastrous for the BDO.

If anything this year might be where it is rejuvenated. It's pretty much called a truce with the PDC.

Anyone who doesn't get a tour card can now enter its events and play on the PDC challenge and/or development tour. Had it happened sooner the likes of say Aspinall and Humphries could have been at Lakeside over the years and would help its standing.

The biggest disaster for the BDO has for a while been it's image. More Guineys to the PDC's JD Sports. That's the key thing that needs to keep improving.

There was a bit of change how things were done this year. No interviews with players in the bar, no stupid Tony Green digs at the PDC or stale yawkshire John 'Gimmicks' Walton chit chat, offensive jokes by the MC, talks of a meat raffle or Chelsea pensioners/Bingo types.

Granted there was the hunred mistake but you can allow the occasional mis-step given its only starting out. It won't be easy to rebuild given the PDC's profile but it has nothing to lose now.

sc86 · 15-01-2019 8:22pm

it would be a disaster for the bdo credibility itself if current world champ failed to get through q school 5 days later
it would make a farce of the title - world champion
that was my point

i think he gets through easy anyway

i agree this years event coverage was huge improvement

shockframe · 15-01-2019 11:22pm

sc86 wrote: »

it would be a disaster for the bdo credibility itself if current world champ failed to get through q school 5 days later
it would make a farce of the title - world champion
that was my point

i think he gets through easy anyway

i agree this years event coverage was huge improvement

What if he beat current PDC players like Jenkins or Murnan and lost all his games to BDO players like Mcgeeney,Williams etc and didnt qualify?:D

sc86 · 16-01-2019 10:34am

lol - justincredible darts would have field day either way

Petyr Baelish · 16-01-2019 8:07pm

sc86 wrote: »

lol - justincredible darts would have field day either way

I think he would like to see Durrant qualify, he seems to be the only BDO player he has any regard for.

It was a shame the way he covered the Lakeside, he waited all week to post his daily reports and there was just too much in it to bother reading at that stage. Day by day reporting would have been much better. He's still a great read though, I always look forward to Knob of The Week

Ultimate Seduction · 16-01-2019 8:44pm

Comparison
Average winning leg at 2019 World Championships

PDC: 15.56 darts

BDO: 16.29 darts

6 visits each

Small margins.

Degag · 17-01-2019 12:45am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Comparison
Average winning leg at 2019 World Championships

PDC: 15.56 darts

BDO: 16.29 darts

6 visits each

Small margins.

Is that including the first round in the PDV version? For a true comparison it should really only include the games from the last 32 onwards in both versions.

sc86 · 17-01-2019 12:49am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Comparison
Average winning leg at 2019 World Championships

PDC: 15.56 darts

BDO: 16.29 darts

6 visits each

Small margins.

92 players in pdc i think
40 in bdo ?

Them stats mean nothing

Ultimate Seduction · 17-01-2019 2:35am

Its a true reflection of the tournaments overall. You can't deny facts. I'd like to see the stats from maybe quarters on myself.

I posted it to show how small the margins are. 1 dart a leg is the difference between 100 and 93 average.

Just 2 (two) ton plus average players in the whole PDC tournament, was amazed at that.

sc86 · 17-01-2019 10:21am

i dont see how compare a event with 40 players to another with 92 makes any difference

compare last 32 in each stats again each other for sure

theres people who think the standard is the same now because of these stats
it was the worst pdc champ in recent years , standard wise

Degag · 18-01-2019 6:35pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Its a true reflection of the tournaments overall. You can't deny facts. I'd like to see the stats from maybe quarters on myself.

I posted it to show how small the margins are. 1 dart a leg is the difference between 100 and 93 average.

Just 2 (two) ton plus average players in the whole PDC tournament, was amazed at that.

It's not a true reflection. By your reasoning if there were 1000 players in the PDC version including those with a 40 average you would be saying the BDO version is best because it took less darts to finsh a game on average than in the PDC.

shockframe · 18-01-2019 11:03pm

Any comparison of both would probably be best done from last 64 in Ally Pally to last 32 in Lakeside. Both stages are where everyone has played at least 1 game. Could be classed as the 1st Round for both tournaments.

That said there's more to it when it comes to darts.

millhouse · 20-01-2019 8:08pm

Duzza got a PDC card at Q school via the order of merit. 5 players from the BDO got cards this week.
I wonder will they all take on the challenge. A lot to be said for being guaranteed a wage every friday doing a 9-5 . Now they are solely dependant on earnings from darts. Could be a huge challenge or a huge mistake...here's hoping it's not the latter for all involved.

Green_Martian · 21-01-2019 11:30am

millhouse wrote: »

Duzza got a PDC card at Q school via the order of merit. 5 players from the BDO got cards this week.
I wonder will they all take on the challenge. A lot to be said for being guaranteed a wage every friday doing a 9-5 . Now they are solely dependant on earnings from darts. Could be a huge challenge or a huge mistake...here's hoping it's not the latter for all involved.

Well I think Durrant will be ok for at least the first year after he picked up that cheque for winning the Lakeside Championship this year

, but agree it is a big step for any player to give up their main source of income. If you don't go for it you will never know

Bob Harris · 21-01-2019 11:37am

Green_Martian wrote: »

Well I think Durrant will be ok for at least the first year after he picked up that cheque for winning the Lakeside Championship this year , but agree it is a big step for any player to give up their main source of income. If you don't go for it you will never know

If he does leave his job he'll walk back into it whenever he decides he's had enough of the tour.

BDO Lake World Championship

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