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08-01-2019, 17:09   #16
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I'd preface this with the usual advice that nobody needs deep section carbon wheels for A4 racing.

However, if you want them, I'd say a lot of circuits can be a bit rough and that racing is hard on wheels, i.e. you see less potholes in a bunch and have less chance to avoid them if you do. With that in mind, buy something with a reputation for durability.

In terms of makeup, I'd either buy all carbon tubs or clinchers with an aluminium rim and carbon fairing. Aside from the rim heat issues on carbon clinchers, I wouldn't fancy dealing with any flatting situation where the rim is making contact with the edge of a pothole.

Also, be sure to buy something that you can get spare parts for, i.e. something built with generic spokes or hubs or, if proprietary, something where spares are easily acquirable.
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I would disagree with some of the comments. Good wheels are one of the best investments you can make.

On the same note, I agree with the point that get fitter and faster first, or else you'll never notice the improvement.

For A4, set of Askiums to start of with, cheap, cheerful, and can be sold on for half price when you get upgraded.

On the same note, I dropped some money on a set of Hunt Race wheels but I am a fool with money, and you get the rest.
Hunt race wheels? The sound alone makes them worthwhile..... I'll listen out for you somewhere this year!
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Aside from the rim heat issues on carbon clinchers, I wouldn't fancy dealing with any flatting situation where the rim is making contact with the edge of a pothole.
I melted my carbon clinchers on a wet non-racing descent of Red Lane, a particularly nasty technical descent.

Before that, however, they did loads of racing without a bother, including big descents.

So I wouldn't share your concern about heat build up, not in a race anyway. There's just not that kind of braking.

I do agree with the "oh **** I need to stop before I wreck my expensive wheels" limitation of clinchers, though I'm not sure that's much worse with carbon. If you bang a lightweight alloy rim on a pothole with a flat tyre, it's not going to handle that either.
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....Good wheels are one of the best investments you can make....
Unless you are going to win a shit load of prize money, I can't see how they would be considered an 'investment'.
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Unless you are going to win a shit load of prize money, I can't see how they would be considered an 'investment'.
I see going faster and looking good as the payout. If your in racing for the money and your still A4, then you have made a bad investment.
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Rim or disc brake? Clincher or tub?
Rim brakes and clinchers. Any recommendations?

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I intend to dip my toe in A4 racing next year and following a good bit of research will upgrade to Zondas. They should be well placed to take the intensity of the 220+ watts I’ll be destroying fields with!
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Rim brakes and clinchers. Any recommendations?
What's your budget?
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09-01-2019, 10:54   #24
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I'd use good wheels for racing, regardless of the risk damaging them or not. Bit of a waste to use good wheels on sportives or group rides for sure, makes zero difference there. Big fan of Zondas.
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I do agree with the "oh **** I need to stop before I wreck my expensive wheels" limitation of clinchers, though I'm not sure that's much worse with carbon. If you bang a lightweight alloy rim on a pothole with a flat tyre, it's not going to handle that either.
I agree, alloy isn't indestructible and I've trashed an alloy rim on a pothole before. But I still think it's sturdier than carbon in these situations and usually cheaper to replace.
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As a guy I cycled with once said to me, there is no point in having it if your not going to use it. He was referring to people buying jerseys they had no intention of wearing but the same principle applies.
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Rim brakes and clinchers. Any recommendations?
Campagnolo Bullet or Mavic Cosmic Pro Carbon.
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Get the deepest section, most expensive wheels you can. Then change your name by deed poll to Fred as that's what you will be called.
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Trying to find the best lightweight set of wheels at bargain myself at the moment, ive come across cero wheels, these AR24 EVO's look very impressive for the price
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I have a set of magic cosmic carbones, went from A4 TO A2 solely because of the investment......Looking to buy a giant advanced pro to get me to A1.......it's literally impossible to move up the ranks on bad gear man, you know...........
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