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11-01-2019, 14:00   #2176
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there have only been two studies into the effectiveness of hi-vis; one was dogged with errors, and the other showed no significant difference.

if your claim that it can make a big difference is backed by evidence, i'd genuinely be interested to hear what that is. or whether it's just the usual assumption.
Of the 9 cyclists killed last year, how many died during the hours of darkness?
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11-01-2019, 16:26   #2177
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Of the 9 cyclists killed last year, how many died during the hours of darkness?
Not sure about last year but ask how many were wearing Hi Vis, its a far higher number than the people saying we must use Hi Vis to save lives would have you believe.
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Of the 9 cyclists killed last year, how many died during the hours of darkness?
IIRC, the number for 2017 was one or two out of 16 in the hours of darkness.
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11-01-2019, 17:42   #2179
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IIRC, the number for 2017 was one or two out of 16 in the hours of darkness.
Which would suggest visibility is not the be all and end all of road safety. IMO it suggests lack of observation / awareness / inexperience / speed etc.are greater risks.
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11-01-2019, 17:45   #2180
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Which would suggest visibility is not the be all and end all of road safety. IMO it suggests lack of observation / awareness / inexperience / speed etc.are greater risks.
Indeed - hi-vis is a solution looking for a problem.
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11-01-2019, 20:05   #2181
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I remember about 5 years ago, on the clontarf cycle track, a chap appearing around the bend at the sheds with the strangest set up i had ever seen.

A non reflective hi viz jacket and a small blinky led light on the bars.
The strange thing was, He had the light pointing towards him in an apparent effort to light up his hi viz.

It didnt work very well at all.
I saw a guy today on the Grand Canal cycle route with pretty much this set up! He had a light on the handlebar pointed in at his fluorescent tabard. It was eye-catching, in that it caused me to gaze at him intently wondering whether he'd really meant to use a light to illuminate his hi-viz.
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15-01-2019, 11:51   #2182
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I don't really get this

https://twitter.com/MACofSA/status/1084930734467366912
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15-01-2019, 12:46   #2183
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as soon as i saw it was australian...
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15-01-2019, 13:39   #2184
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as soon as i saw it was australian...
Yeah, I'm struggling to get my head around the thinking that led to that video being created. The next logical step is to encourage people to avoid carrying sharp objects in their pockets lest they scrape the paintwork as they bounce off the bonnet of the car that hits them.

Aside from anything else, the lady is wearing a bike helmet in the shop. In. The. Shop. I'm presuming she would be at least jailed (along with the film crew, of course) if not wearing the helmet.
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15-01-2019, 15:07   #2185
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However, there's https://twitter.com/baoigheallain/st...89588425117696 in the comments to a linked article at https://nickhubble.bike/2018/01/18/o...n-is-nonsense/ which notes a much greater level of respect and awareness granted to a kid cycling to school in her uniform instead of hi-vis...
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