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23-11-2019, 00:02   #1
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ABOLITION OF FLAT RATE EXPENSES!!

I just heard about this yesterday and am amazed at the lack of noise about it!

But it's such a stealth move that it's possible many teachers still don't know about it. If so, people need to wake up and stop this latest disgraceful pay cut in its tracks! That is if you want to hang on to your €518 annual flat rate expenses which I presume you do! So please sign the petition to the Minister [link below] at change.org:

https://www.change.org/p/joe-mchugh-...s-for-teachers


And also write to your local Tds to make it clear how this latest attack on low and middle income earners is both unacceptable and political suicide for them just before an election.

This really is a galling grab and run attack and people need to get off their asses and PROTEST.
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24-11-2019, 15:29   #2
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I just heard about this yesterday and am amazed at the lack of noise about it!

But it's such a stealth move that it's possible many teachers still don't know about it. If so, people need to wake up and stop this latest disgraceful pay cut in its tracks! That is if you want to hang on to your €518 annual flat rate expenses which I presume you do! So please sign the petition to the Minister [link below] at change.org:

https://www.change.org/p/joe-mchugh-...s-for-teachers


And also write to your local Tds to make it clear how this latest attack on low and middle income earners is both unacceptable and political suicide for them just before an election.

This really is a galling grab and run attack and people need to get off their asses and PROTEST.
I have already signed petition after a colleague posted link on Facebook
However after that I did some googling and all I can find on it it this
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.iris...949%3fmode=amp

It’s not decided and won’t be known until mid December if it’s going ahead
Teachers are not one of the groups mentioned so let’s hope this remains the case
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24-11-2019, 17:50   #3
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I am registered for tax and have to fill in an 'expected' return a year in advance and no matter what I did, my flat rate expenses kept being changed by their automatic system to one hundred and something for the 2019 return, due in 2020.
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I am registered for tax and have to fill in an 'expected' return a year in advance and no matter what I did, my flat rate expenses kept being changed by their automatic system to one hundred and something for the 2019 return, due in 2020.
The 518 tax allowance is actually implemented as follows:

103.60 tax credit (i.e. 20% of the tax allowance)

103.60 increase in SRCOP
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I must admit I had to google SRCOP (Standard rate cut off point).
Thanks for that, so all is in order then?
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I have already signed petition after a colleague posted link on Facebook
However after that I did some googling and all I can find on it it this
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.iris...949%3fmode=amp

It’s not decided and won’t be known until mid December if it’s going ahead
Teachers are not one of the groups mentioned so let’s hope this remains the case
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/...-38757165.html
No changes
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I just heard about this yesterday and am amazed at the lack of noise about it!

But it's such a stealth move that it's possible many teachers still don't know about it. If so, people need to wake up and stop this latest disgraceful pay cut in its tracks! That is if you want to hang on to your €518 annual flat rate expenses which I presume you do! So please sign the petition to the Minister [link below] at change.org:

https://www.change.org/p/joe-mchugh-...s-for-teachers


And also write to your local Tds to make it clear how this latest attack on low and middle income earners is both unacceptable and political suicide for them just before an election.

This really is a galling grab and run attack and people need to get off their asses and PROTEST.
Dear teacher,

Why should you get €518 and others who work every bit as hard get nothing ?
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Dear teacher,

Why should you get €518 and others who work every bit as hard get nothing ?
Well, for starters, we invariably end up spending a lot of our own money for basic school supplies.
But in any case it's not "just" teachers who get this allowance:

https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-t...e-expenses.pdf
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Well, for starters, we invariably end up spending a lot of our own money for basic school supplies.
But in any case it's not "just" teachers who get this allowance:

https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-t...e-expenses.pdf
I'm very well aware of all employments that do and don't get flat rate expenses. If I recall correctly, the boys and girls in the RTE orchestra do well we'll for their troubles
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They have rolled back on the cut!
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I'm very well aware of all employments that do and don't get flat rate expenses. If I recall correctly, the boys and girls in the RTE orchestra do well we'll for their troubles
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The 518 tax allowance is actually implemented as follows:

103.60 tax credit (i.e. 20% of the tax allowance)

103.60 increase in SRCOP
Would anyone be in a position to explain how 518 euro in flat rate expenses turns into the above?

I'm not understanding it....on my OHs tax certificate flat rate expenses shows up as 121 euros

is it taxed at 50% and then you are given the other 50% back split across a tax credit and srcop or some arrangement like that?

they do like to make these things arcane dont they?
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Would anyone be in a position to explain how 518 euro in flat rate expenses turns into the above?

I'm not understanding it....on my OHs tax certificate flat rate expenses shows up as 121 euros

is it taxed at 50% and then you are given the other 50% back split across a tax credit and srcop or some arrangement like that?

they do like to make these things arcane dont they?
They told me they raise my 20% band by €608 and then minus €121.60 from tax liability as a tax credit.
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They told me they raise my 20% band by €608 and then minus €121.60 from tax liability as a tax credit.
Thank you. Id love to know why they do it that way?

Why not just raise the 20% band by the 518?

Is it somthing to do with USC I wonder?
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Thank you. Id love to know why they do it that way?

Why not just raise the 20% band by the 518?

Is it somthing to do with USC I wonder?
No idea? I get the €608 flat rate expenses.
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