The "Today I did something to my bike" thread

macplaxton · 22-11-2020 9:28pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Just needed to use a big adjustable wrench on the 17mm nut (longer than my 17mm spanner, and a tigher fit!)

Too small nut or too big spanner?

I'd be interested to know if your 17mm spanner is actually in tolerance.

goblin59 · 22-11-2020 11:09pm

Since I'll have the DR650se frame sand blasted and down to the bare metal. Is it worth considering galvanising the steel before powder coating if I can get a decent quote?
I know on the old land rovers, its worth getting done, but not sure on a dual sport motorcycle

goblin59 · 23-11-2020 12:42am

just got told by Dad thats a terrible idea as it might warp the frame xD

Fox Mulder · 23-11-2020 2:05pm

goblin59 wrote: »

just got told by Dad thats a terrible idea as it might warp the frame xD

Didn't know that about the galvanising, that's interesting. I have never had problems with just powder coating. Manufactures typically have a CED coating underneath the powder coated finish which is why you sometimes see little drain holes around the frame to allow the fluid to drain after the CED process.

goblin59 · 23-11-2020 4:08pm

Fox Mulder wrote: »

Didn't know that about the galvanising, that's interesting. I have never had problems with just powder coating. Manufactures typically have a CED coating underneath the powder coated finish which is why you sometimes see little drain holes around the frame to allow the fluid to drain after the CED process.

Yeah, I didn't think that was a thing either, but I don't want to take the risk.
I've the frame and a few bits away now to be blasted and powder coated £70 (either with or without Vat, can't remember) for the lot.

Fox Mulder · 23-11-2020 5:52pm

goblin59 wrote: »

Yeah, I didn't think that was a thing either, but I don't want to take the risk.
I've the frame and a few bits away now to be blasted and powder coated £70 (either with or without Vat, can't remember) for the lot.

£70 inc VAT is about what I have payed in the past. Some people have told me that it is cheaper if you go to the non specialist companies like those that normally do railings and other generic work but at least if you go to someone who has done bike frames before they know what areas need to be masked off and you can just leave it with them.

goblin59 · 23-11-2020 6:13pm

Fox Mulder wrote: »

£70 inc VAT is about what I have payed in the past. Some people have told me that it is cheaper if you go to the non specialist companies like those that normally do railings and other generic work but at least if you go to someone who has done bike frames before they know what areas need to be masked off and you can just leave it with them.

I was pretty reassured when i seen other motorcycle parts up in there.
He had an old Drum brake hub hanging up after being resprayed.
He does work for a guy near Derrylin / Belturbet who restores vintage bikes

Japcati2020 · 24-11-2020 7:29pm

Fantastic stuff.:)

CJhaughey · 25-11-2020 9:36am

Yep that is good stuff, I also really like the Wurth Kontakt Ol, if you need to clean and protect electrical connectors its very good, I know Deoxit is supposed to be good as well but I can't comment as I have never tried it.
https://eshop.wurth.ie/Product-categories/Contact-spray-OL/31123009030302.cyid/3112.cgid/en/GB/EUR/

Japcati2020 · 25-11-2020 10:04am

CJhaughey wrote: »

Yep that is good stuff, I also really like the Wurth Kontakt Ol, if you need to clean and protect electrical connectors its very good, I know Deoxit is supposed to be good as well but I can't comment as I have never tried it.
https://eshop.wurth.ie/Product-categories/Contact-spray-OL/31123009030302.cyid/3112.cgid/en/GB/EUR/

Have the "rost off" too.
Great stuff that.
Just walked into their trade counter in Finglas and bought a few cans of both items at trade price.
Happy Days.

goblin59 · 27-11-2020 4:27pm

Got the frame back from being beadblasted and powder coated.
They only had a few colours in stock otherwise it would have been an extra £80 and few weeks on top.

I can spray it myself to the colour I want though using the powder coating as an undercoat.

did a quick photoshop of the colour scheme I am thinking of versus the original colour scheme.

H_Lime · 27-11-2020 7:43pm

goblin59 wrote: »

Got the frame back from being beadblasted and powder coated.
They only had a few colours in stock otherwise it would have been an extra £80 and few weeks on top.

I can spray it myself to the colour I want though using the powder coating as an undercoat.

did a quick photoshop of the colour scheme I am thinking of versus the original colour scheme.

Any decent pics of the finish and who'd ya use? Seems a convoluted route to spray it over but would be easier than doing it from bare ass metal all right. Wonder will getting a key be a challenge and will.you need a specific paint?

goblin59 · 27-11-2020 8:51pm

I used JME just outside of Derrylin, Co. Fermanagh

He only had a few colours in stock, I have Rustoleum ultimate spray that will take to the paint, but i'll go a test spray on something else.
Its for going over metal so it should take, i've used it before on benches.

I'd have done straight to the bare metal, but this would actually be a better option as the powder coating will act as a 2nd layer of protection to the frame,

thats the frame at the moment, theres another DR650se in the house in the two tone grey already. so as this one was in pieces anyway might as well do something different

H_Lime · 27-11-2020 10:15pm

goblin59 wrote: »

I used JME just outside of Derrylin, Co. Fermanagh

He only had a few colours in stock, I have Rustoleum ultimate spray that will take to the paint, but i'll go a test spray on something else.
Its for going over metal so it should take, i've used it before on benches.

I'd have done straight to the bare metal, but this would actually be a better option as the powder coating will act as a 2nd layer of protection to the frame,

thats the frame at the moment, theres another DR650se in the house in the two tone grey already. so as this one was in pieces anyway might as well do something different

Very similar is some respects to the Dr750 frame, minus the box section spars. Those mounts look identical castings.
Here's my tuppence, which you may or may not agree with. Rub it down, prep it with alcohol....and spray or have it sprayed in two pack. I guarantee you it will flake off round the welds and mounts in a couple thousand miles otherwise.
Would love a 650 in the garage.

goblin59 · 27-11-2020 11:21pm

H_Lime wrote: »

Very similar is some respects to the Dr750 frame, minus the box section spars. Those mounts look identical castings.
Here's my tuppence, which you may or may not agree with. Rub it down, prep it with alcohol....and spray or have it sprayed in two pack. I guarantee you it will flake off round the welds and mounts in a couple thousand miles otherwise.
Would love a 650 in the garage.

I have a degreaser here to do wipe it down with before spraying.

its a very similar bike to the DR750. Dad was initially looking for one of those and got a 2005 Australian import instead.
he has the 2005 and a 2014 DR650se now, the 2005 has been around most of the world apart from America at this point.
This one is a 1996 that was crashed by the previous owner and then Dad had the frame straightened by a guy who does race bikes up

if it chips it isn't too bad a bike to strip down, will be another few weeks to assemble though, waiting on an ultrasonic cleaner to arrive from amazon to clean the carbs. got some bits off of procycle for the bike too, bash plate, hand guards, engine guards and ricor intimidators.
I ordered the Moto gadget M unit as well and redoing the entire wire loom for it as the previous one is pretty manky.

H_Lime · 27-11-2020 11:36pm

goblin59 wrote: »

I have a degreaser here to do wipe it down with before spraying.

its a very similar bike to the DR750. Dad was initially looking for one of those and got a 2005 Australian import instead.
he has the 2005 and a 2014 DR650se now, the 2005 has been around most of the world apart from America at this point.
This one is a 1996 that was crashed by the previous owner and then Dad had the frame straightened by a guy who does race bikes up

if it chips it isn't too bad a bike to strip down, will be another few weeks to assemble though, waiting on an ultrasonic cleaner to arrive from amazon to clean the carbs. got some bits off of procycle for the bike too, bash plate, hand guards, engine guards and ricor intimidators.
I ordered the Moto gadget M unit as well and redoing the entire wire loom for it as the previous one is pretty manky.

Ultrasonic cleaners a bonus alright.
Here my Dr's bst in mine

Gives good results.
The intiminators are a great upgrade I have them in both dr bigs and the caponord, brill upgrade for damper rod fork.
I've not re-made a loom before, done everything else with them mind but that's gotta be a challenge.

goblin59 · 28-11-2020 12:38am

we ordered the 10litre one, can get the TDM's carbs into there too plus some other bits.
Is the DR big a twin carb?

It will be my first time attempting to build a loom, but I think the M unit will simplify it quite a bit.
I'm still new to bikes, I only had my first bike lesson this time last year, I'm trying to do as much as I can on my own with the Clymer Manual.
It helps to have a factory new DR650se here though, that 2014 model has maybe 10km done on it, probably less, it was purchased and kept in a hallway from new.

CJhaughey · 28-11-2020 1:00am

Get a big piece of cardboard from a fridge or similar, lay the old loom out on it and move all the lateral spurs out so they are the correct length and angle.
Use cable ties to hold it to the card, a pen is useful for making notes along the way for colours etc.
When you make the new loom lay the new wiring the same way and angle the wires the same way, this way the extra length that the bends use is accounted for.

I have made some subsections of wiring and found that they were short because I hadn't accounted for the bends, which is a pain when you have crimped on bullet connectors and can't use it.

blade1 · 02-12-2020 5:24pm

Sidestand had a lot of play in it so decided to take a quick look.
Of course one of the bolts would snap when I went to loosen it :mad:

Drilled out the broken bolt and tapped the hole and inserted a Helicoil

All back together and no more excess play in stand.
Could only find a suitable bolt with a much bigger head

CJhaughey · 02-12-2020 5:30pm

Was that a Parmesan Bolt or Grana Padano?

blade1 · 02-12-2020 5:54pm

CJhaughey wrote: »

Was that a Parmesan Bolt or Grana Padano?

Stop, it didn't even twist a little.
Just went to turn it and crack straight away :rolleyes:

flashinthepan · 02-12-2020 6:51pm

blade1 wrote: »

Stop, it didn't even twist a little.
Just went to turn it and crack straight away :rolleyes:

Been there done that n bought the tee shirt :-)
Bummer

blade1 · 02-12-2020 7:03pm

flashinthepan wrote: »

Been there done that n bought the tee shirt :-)
Bummer

At least fixing it went smoothly.

I also located a slow coolant leak which was down to a crappy hose clamp.
Replaced it with a jubilee clip.
Happy days.

flashinthepan · 02-12-2020 9:41pm

Fixed a puncture on my own yoke with one of the plug kits
What looked like a panel pin went through it
The little C02 bottles only pumped it up to about 10 psi so out with the foot pump

Skill Magill · 02-12-2020 10:05pm

flashinthepan wrote: »

Fixed a puncture on my own yoke with one of the plug kits
What looked like a panel pin went through it
The little C02 bottles only pumped it up to about 10 psi so out with the foot pump

I suppose 10 might be enough to get you to the next station if you were out and about. I have a track pump but its way to big to carry around, I was thinking of a high pressure mini pump that you cyclists using, anybody got one or recommend one?

flashinthepan · 02-12-2020 10:10pm

Skill Magill wrote: »

I suppose 10 might be enough to get you to the next station if you were out and about. I have a track pump but its way to big to carry around, I was thinking of a high pressure mini pump that you cyclists using, anybody got one or recommend one?

Was just looking at this one here
http://tiny.cc/pdy5tz

Skill Magill · 02-12-2020 10:31pm

I was thinking of something more elemental

I don't think theres a guage on the one you linked and there is this too :
Do not use this pump in a standard BMW accessory outlet, unless it is wired directly to the battery and bypasses the motorcycle’s electrical computer system

I was thinking more of a hand pump you can throw in the box and forget about

goblin59 · 02-12-2020 11:04pm

flashinthepan wrote: »

Was just looking at this one here
http://tiny.cc/pdy5tz

I have that on my BMW F650gs, its an amazing pump. AMI in Gorey have them

Sir Galahad · 02-12-2020 11:18pm

flashinthepan wrote: »

Was just looking at this one here
http://tiny.cc/pdy5tz

Daughter gave me one of these a few years ago. Great bit of kit. And since the air is a Euro in petrol stations now I use it on the cars as well

. Always pack it in the top box if I’m leaving Dublin.

enrique66_35 · 03-12-2020 9:58am

goblin59 wrote: »

I have that on my BMW F650gs, its an amazing pump. AMI in Gorey have them

Thanks for the tip - just ordered one as a Christmas pressie to me from me

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