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07-03-2019, 22:31   #1
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House in a bad state.

My cousin got keys today to a new house she's renting.
She viewed the house a few weeks ago and said she was interested but the place needed a lot of work done.

She went into the house today but it's in a bad state.
There's mould in places a dust and cobwebs all built up. Oven is destroyed from old greese all built up.
There's a leak in the ceiling. There was dust and stains all over the wall and couchs.
Fridge and freezer full of old food and completely full of ice.
Microwave full of green stuff looks like mould.
Rubbish all over the back yard and rubbish in presses.
A few presses are broken as well
Shower doesn't work there's very little power in it
Bath tub is not sealed properly.
It looks as if the place hasn't been cleaned in months.
According to my cousin she would be the first tenant as the landlord is only new to the scene.
He's done this through an agency.
The agent promised my cousin the place will be professionally cleaned with a new oven installed and fridge and freezer and a new microwave plus a fresh paint and all little problems would be fixed.
None of this was done and my cousin is paying 2k a month for this. She had to give 6k upfront before receiving the keys.
She only got the keys today the lease starts from today

She feels conned. Is there any comeback can she cancel out of the agreement based on this. It would take weeks to sort this out she would rather look for somewhere else. She has tonnes of photos.

Its as if the landlord bought a new house packed his bags and invested nothing into the property hoping the tenants would fix everything and left all his rubbish behind him.

I must also mention she's gone through HAP with this but 6k upfront was her own money. Deposit and 2 months upfront

Cheers.

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07-03-2019, 22:46   #2
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My cousin got keys today to a new house she's renting.
She viewed the house a few weeks ago and said she was interested but the place needed a lot of work done.

She went into the house today but it's in a bad state.
There's mould in places a dust and cobwebs all built up. Oven is destroyed from old greese all built up.
There's a leak in the ceiling. There was dust and stains all over the wall and couchs.
Fridge and freezer full of old food and completely full of ice.
Microwave full of green stuff looks like mould.
Rubbish all over the back yard and rubbish in presses.
A few presses are broken as well
Shower doesn't work there's very little power in it
Bath tub is not sealed properly.
It looks as if the place hasn't been cleaned in months.
According to my cousin she would be the first tenant as the landlord is only new to the scene.
He's done this through an agency.
The agent promised my cousin the place will be professionally cleaned with a new oven installed and fridge and freezer and a new microwave plus a fresh paint and all little problems would be fixed.
None of this was done and my cousin is paying 2k a month for this. She had to give 6k upfront before receiving the keys.
She only got the keys today the lease starts from today

She feels conned. Is there any comeback can she cancel out of the agreement based on this. It would take weeks to sort this out she would rather look for somewhere else. She has tonnes of photos.

Its as if the landlord bought a new house packed his bags and invested nothing into the property hoping the tenants would fix everything and left all his rubbish behind him.

I must also mention she's gone through HAP with this but 6k upfront was her own money. Deposit and 2 months upfront

Cheers.

Did she get any of the propose works in writing?

There is a lot of problems there to go through. Many could be rectified through cleaning the place.
I dont know the condition of the place myself so cant comment however from own experience as a ll, i have had tenants that were clean freaks and were very picky so would sometimes dent their request for cleaning. Again not saying that here as indont know the property, just a general comment.

Your best bet is to call the agency asap to see what they say. To cover yourself in case you are going to RTB also email them with pictures of said issues tomorrow also just to cover yourself. Make sure the photos you take are date stamped also. Depending on condition i do know some ll and agencies that keep deposits due to condition of the property even though it was like that when they moved in.
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Did she get any of the propose works in writing?

There is a lot of problems there to go through. Many could be rectified through cleaning the place.
I dont know the condition of the place myself so cant comment however from own experience as a ll, i have had tenants that were clean freaks and were very picky so would sometimes dent their request for cleaning. Again not saying that here as indont know the property, just a general comment.

Your best bet is to call the agency asap to see what they say. To cover yourself in case you are going to RTB also email them with pictures of said issues tomorrow also just to cover yourself. Make sure the photos you take are date stamped also. Depending on condition i do know some ll and agencies that keep deposits due to condition of the property even though it was like that when they moved in.
Was promised according to her not in writing.
But the place is unhabitable surely there is a standard expected.

I've seen the house it's in an awful state I live close by it.
I wouldn't let it to a dog to be honest.


Just some of the many photos below

She doesn't want to live there anymore it's in to much of a state and knows the agent will drag there feet about it.
She just wants a way out.
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Was promised according to her not in writing.
But the place is unhabitable surely there is a standard expected.

I've seen the house it's in an awful state I live close by it.
I wouldn't let it to a dog to be honest.


Just some of the many photos below

She doesn't want to live there anymore it's in to much of a state and knows the agent will drag there feet about it.
She just wants a way out.
Needs a good cleaning alright
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Be careful of mould - especially if its in the structure / walls / ceilings from water damage. Prolonged exposure to it can make you very sick - lethargy, brain fog and much worse. Some kinds of mould emit tiny particles that end in in the air and all dust - called mycotoxins - that are biotoxins and neurotoxins.
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Those photos look like its messy - but not neccessarily anything more than a weekends worth of cleaning?
Is it damp etc?
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Needs a good cleaning alright
That's 5 pictures out of 88 I have received
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Those photos look like its messy - but not neccessarily anything more than a weekends worth of cleaning?
Is it damp etc?
Mould.
Stained walls
Broken presses
Rubbish everywhere
Broken shower

Giving 2k a month it's unacceptable
Or am I wrong in thinking handing 2k a month you should be expected to clean the place completely and fix every issue on getting the keys.
It needs a fresh paint and professional cleaners brought in. As well as mould removed assuming it's not all over the walls she has a 1 yr old baby she can't move into this place the way it is.
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That is fair manky alright - but TBH I wouldn't have handed over a penny until I had seen it had been cleaned and everything sorted.
Did the LL just buy the house and think he was gonna retire on it.
Three months rent up front!?!? Definitely would have wanted a second viewing.
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2k a month for what you've shown is a joke. I wouldn't let a 1 year old near the place till professional cleaners have been in, the appliances replaced and most importantly the mould situation sorted out. How these cowboys get away with it I don't know. I've rented apartments/houses over the years. She should find another agency. Any place I rented was spotless on arrival and when I left the agency rep came around and deducted from deposit work that needed to be done. And I'm talking small pototoes. Scuffed skirting boards, a few marks on a wall, a crack in a mirror etc.

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That is fair manky alright - but TBH I wouldn't have handed over a penny until I had seen it had been cleaned and everything sorted.
Did the LL just buy the house and think he was gonna retire on it.
Three months rent up front!?!? Definitely would have wanted a second viewing.
I know she's not the brightest person alive but I feel really bad for her it's a lot of money.
She just wants a way out now. It's only day1 she's still living at home she won't go near the place.
I think the ll was changing his arm hoping she would do it all. She should of went for a 2nd viewing
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2k a month for what you've shown is a joke. I wouldn't let a 1 year old near the place till professional cleaners have been in, the appliances replaced and most importantly the mould situation sorted out. How these cowboys get away with it I don't know. I've rented apartments/houses over the years. She should find another agency. Any place I rented was spotless on arrival and when I left the agency rep came around and deducted from deposit work that needed to be done. And I'm talking small pototoes. Scuffed skirting boards, a few marks on a wall, a crack in a mirror etc.
She just wants to end the tenancy even though it only started.
It will be weeks and that's if the ll actually does decide to do it.
Not sure if he has to.
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She just wants to end the tenancy even though it only started.
It will be weeks and that's if the ll actually does decide to do it.
Not sure if he has to.
Its been a while since I rented. Is there not an opt out clause if you want to leave within 6 months ? I could be totally wrong here.

Maybe bad advice but tell her walk away. Take a load more pictures. Unlikely the LL will persue her. Will just move onto the next person willing to rent.

And 6k up front ? What ? For a rental ?
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Its been a while since I rented. Is there not an opt out clause if you want to leave within 6 months ? I could be totally wrong here.

Maybe bad advice but tell her walk away. Take a load more pictures. Unlikely the LL will persue her. Will just move onto the next person willing to rent.

And 6k up front ? What ? For a rental ?
Hard to walk away without getting the money back.
Plus she's on hap as well so it complicates things. Il tell her to ring citizens advice tomorrow.
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Hard to walk away without getting the money back.
Plus she's on hap as well so it complicates things. Il tell her to ring citizens advice tomorrow.
Do. Hope it all works out for the best. Keep us updated. Could be very valuable advice for others.
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