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25-10-2018, 08:50   #1
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Air BnB [and other platforms] to be effectively outlawed in high demand areas

Where to next for the government. LL cant choose tenants, cant raise rent over a certain level, pay high taxes (not treated like other businesses), reduced rights with regard to getting properties back, short term let. Can the barrel be scraped any more for pointless ideas by this government ?
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Where to next for the government. LL cant choose tenants, cant raise rent over a certain level, pay high taxes (not treated like other businesses), reduced rights with regard to geting properties back, short term let. Can the barrel be scraped any more for pointless ideas by this government ?

Patience, im sure there's plenty of more pointless and frankly dangerous ideas to come to deal with this calamity
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Restrictions like this are becoming more the norm in cities where AirBnb operates - surprised it took the government this long to do something about it.
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Is there a List of the affected areas outside of Dublin ? Or is it just Dublin ?
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Patience, im sure there's plenty of more pointless and frankly dangerous ideas to come to deal with this calamity



so true. I expect this to add a few percentages to the cost of renting in those areas affected. They never learn When simple moves as allowing unpaying tenants to be evicted quickly would do mkre good for the cost of renting. as is the risks are huge for landlords with overholding.
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so true. I expect this to add a few percentages to the cost of renting in those areas affected. They never learn When simple moves as allowing unpaying tenants to be evicted quickly would do mkre good for the cost of renting. as is the risks are huge for landlords with overholding.

The policies that have implemented thus far are endangering both tenants and landlords, this situation will more than likely continue to worsen for both, we need policies and systems that protect both parties, the opposite is occurring, there's no simple fixes here
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Airbnb was originally used as a rent your spare room but now its used for entire properties, does this not fall foul of planning laws?
Yes.

In effect this is just a signal that some quango will be tasked with chasing up the existing planning laws, to try and scare landlords out of the market.

I'm not sure why the wait. Why not just provide direction/support for county councils to crack down on it now?

It's long overdue, landlords have been taking the piss for a couple of years now.
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The is a Europe wide problem where there is any form of tourism market, there is not much incentive for landlords any more unless they want just the capital appreciation.
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Yes.

In effect this is just a signal that some quango will be tasked with chasing up the existing planning laws, to try and scare landlords out of the market.

I'm not sure why the wait. Why not just provide direction/support for county councils to crack down on it now?

It's long overdue, landlords have been taking the piss for a couple of years now.
Taking the piss ? How ? Is it not the government changing like the wind in a sector they have no interest in supply housing into that is the problem.
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Taking the piss ? How ? Is it not the government changing like the wind in a sector they have no interest in supply housing into that is the problem.
Taking the piss by using residential properties for holiday lets.

We have planning laws for exactly this reason - to ensure that the needs of society are met and properly balanced against the rights of property owners.

If you want to rent out a holiday property, you need to ensure that the property you are renting out is classed as a holiday property. If it's not, then you are in breach of planning law.

The government aren't changing anything, simply calling to enforce long-standing rules.

Landlords know damn well that they are not legally permitted to rent out residential properties on AirBnB. But they do it anyway.

These properties need to go back into the market proper; either sold or rented to long-term tenants.
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It should lead to either more rentals or more houses appearing for sale on the market. Either result is good. It may lead to more empty properties though, depending on the situation of the owner.

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Long overdue and completely inevitable.
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Who would be a landlord in Ireland today. This will see more landlords exit the sector.
Good. More properties on the market.
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