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12-03-2019, 23:16   #1
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Finding accomodation - advice needed

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I am just about to accept job offer as senior software engineer at Dublin office of major British wealth management company.
I am mid-forties and salary is quite strong (80k+), single ( my fiancée would stay in Poland for like year), no pets, no smoking, no benefits .
Currently live in Poland so i need to relocate, therefore i started to research Dublin accommodation market and it looks grim. Obviously i don't have Irish Landlord references but company i will be working for assured me that they would provide whatever is needed to ease my relocation process, i.e. work references. What else could i do to improve my chances of finding 1-2 bedroom apartment with couple of hundred interested in viewing for any place available?

Do i even stand a chance in this seemingly cruel Dublin renting environment ?
Please take for consideration, that i really despise any forms of "cheating the system" (which probably diminishes my chances even more )

Thanks in advance !
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Hello community!

I am just about to accept job offer as senior software engineer at Dublin office of major British wealth management company.
I am mid-forties and salary is quite strong (80k+), single ( my fiancée would stay in Poland for like year), no pets, no smoking, no benefits .
Currently live in Poland so i need to relocate, therefore i started to research Dublin accommodation market and it looks grim. Obviously i don't have Irish Landlord references but company i will be working for assured me that they would provide whatever is needed to ease my relocation process, i.e. work references. What else could i do to improve my chances of finding 1-2 bedroom apartment with couple of hundred interested in viewing for any place available?

Do i even stand a chance in this seemingly cruel Dublin renting environment ?
Please take for consideration, that i really despise any forms of "cheating the system" (which probably diminishes my chances even more )

Thanks in advance !
Will your company pay the rent or guarantee it if you dont pay ? Untimately the landlord is looking for the safest possible tenant who will pay the rent. Its hard to determine who that is.
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You might not agree with this because of your age but I'd reccomend getting a room in someone's house first (short-ish term). Would be easier without references too. Getting to know a few areas and spending some time around them. Then getting your own place with your reference from the room and your knowledge of different areas.
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I recently provided a reference for an AirBnB guest I had so maybe a month's AirBnB while you look if you're not willing to rent a room.
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I recently provided a reference for an AirBnB guest I had so maybe a month's AirBnB while you look if you're not willing to rent a room.
Thanks for the tip !
Actually company is willing to cover my stay at AirBnb/b&b/Temporal accommodation for up to 3 months, so if that kind of references would matter, it would be great.
As for shared accommodation: i don't want to sound "prince'ish" but i really need quiet and tidy place to prepare "starting strategy" at job. Also i own an apartment in Poland (no mortgage though) and i am renting another one for last ten years ( i live in different part of the country) but i doubt Polish references would matter.

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Thanks for the tip !
Actually company is willing to cover my stay at AirBnb/b&b/Temporal accommodation for up to 3 months, so if that kind of references would matter, it would be great.
As for shared accommodation: i don't want to sound "prince'ish" but i really need quiet and tidy place to prepare "starting strategy" at job. Also i own an apartment in Poland (no mortgage though) and i am renting another one for last ten years ( i live in different part of the country) but i doubt Polish references would matter.
If it was verifiable, in English, I'd personally accept it but that's just me. There is expected to be a large amount of AirBnB units returning to the long term rental market in June so if they'll cover you for three months it might be worth taking them up on it.
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If it was verifiable, in English, I'd personally accept it but that's just me. There is expected to be a large amount of AirBnB units returning to the long term rental market in June so if they'll cover you for three months it might be worth taking them up on it.
Thank You Samuel ,
My headhunter told me the same, I accepted the offer already.
It May be that i am overreacting but i am simply put onto "deep water" here.
You know, when You're not a spring chicken any-more, You're double-checking any possibilities. Well it is kinda bizarre from my perspective, that You're treated either bluntly as potential criminal or You should feel grace that any1 would like to take Your money for service of theirs I do realize that You're having bad times with tenants there in Ireland,
Maybe i should blame culture differences
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Will your company pay the rent or guarantee it if you dont pay ? Untimately the landlord is looking for the safest possible tenant who will pay the rent. Its hard to determine who that is.
Well i was them - I'd surely paid to avoid bad name, since they hold assets of most prominent people in Ireland...
And from my perspective: Would i sacrifice 20 years of my career over €2k ???
Answer for Yourself And i DO realize, that even Queen of England or Irish prime minister might try to avoid the rent..
Anyway it seems that i am kinda doomed in Your country.
No offence though! I just were trying to "explore the land" and determinate situation i'd be dealing with In this context i am grateful for Your insight!
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Well I don't know about your prime.minister but I would suggest that joking that anyone would try to not pay their rent is a great way to.be immediately excluded from being first choice or any.choice to rent an appartment. As for.mentioning benefits...same.goes -regardless of what the politically correct (or the law) says.

To rent you will need references that are verifiable in english or a good letter of recommendation from an employer -not a.mickey mouse one - and I would look favourably on someone who.brought bank statements or a.letter.from a contactable and verifiable HR person with a.multinational in Dublin stating that you will be.employed on an X lenght contract from x to.Y and would be easily able to.pay rent of X amount and have a significant percentage left for living off.

Most places require a substantial deposit as.too.many people are trying to bunk off the.final.month and leave them.high and dry.for.bills so If you have not been earning similar in Poland or dont have 6 or 8k handy in the bank a houseshare while.you find.your feet might be well worth considering - there are currently thousands of empty and available rooms.to rent on daft.e and rent.ie so.don't believe all the socialist media.spin you hear.

If.are are savings rich or your company will.spring for.the deposit or.a.moving allowance (many will) then comission an estate.agent to.find one in your price range and area & suck.up their nonsense and cost - you might have to fly over to view or rent sight unseen based on googlemaps and video .

Regarding your girlfriend this rings alarm.bells. Most houseshares specify single.or sole.use only.for.double.rooms.so if you are planning on moving her into a houseshare or having her over frequently make sure you are.clear about this from before you sign up or.you will.find yourself unpopular amongst flatmates & kicked.out fairly sharpish..

Good.luck in your new job.☺

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If it was verifiable, in English, I'd personally accept it but that's just me. There is expected to be a large amount of AirBnB units returning to the long term rental market in June so if they'll cover you for three months it might be worth taking them up on it.
Anyone I've spoken to intends to sell- not to return units to the long term rental market- I can honestly say I'm not familiar with a single person who intends to return a unit they are currently airbnb'ing to the long term rental market.

OP- 80k may sound like a decent salary- and its not a bad salary at all- however, the Irish taxation regime is very different from the UK regime- our higher rate of tax and deductions kick in at 34k- you're looking at a net of approx 4k a month on a gross salary of 80k.

I'd suggest using airbnb until June in any event- but if you're only here for a year- I'd suggest taking a room in somone's home for the remainder of your stay- rather than trying to rent your own place. You sound like the type of person most people would be overjoyed to house/home share with- and there is an Irish government scheme to try and encourage it (whereby a homeowner can share their home and earn up to 14k per annum tax free- providing they live in the property themselves).

I wouldn't be thinking about long term rentals- if you're only going to be staying here 12 months- its just not worth the hassle.
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AirBnB ??? next to suggesting living in an hotel for the year, Renting in airBnB for a year is probably the next most outrageous and expensive option. Why not just suggest instead of brushing his teeth he have them all removed instead. Madness.
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AirBnB ??? next to suggesting living in an hotel for the year, Renting in airBnB for a year is probably the next most outrageous and expensive option. Why not just suggest instead of brushing his teeth he have them all removed instead. Madness.
No-one was suggesting airbnb for the year- they were suggesting it until June- which his company are happy to pay (and its tax deductible for them anyway- so its actually very cost effective from the point of the company). I specifically suggested the rent-a-room scheme- which given the fact he is only here for 12 months- might be his better option.
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No-one was suggesting airbnb for the year- they were suggesting it until June- which his company are happy to pay (and its tax deductible for them anyway- so its actually very cost effective from the point of the company). I specifically suggested the rent-a-room scheme- which given the fact he is only here for 12 months- might be his better option.
Thank You community for wise advices,
to be precise i am moving permanently, not for a year only and maybe just overreacting a bit, since it is hard decision, anyway please let's not start political fights over it ( Last comment is not for directed to You but overall) .
As for shared accommodation i think i am bit too old for it already but Airbnb is surely way to go for first period, especially that company is covering my relocation expenses.

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