Clontarf Baths demolishion/redevelopement

Ben D Bus · 11-10-2017 12:07pm

Due to the sensitive nature of the site and the harsh conditions of building in a marine environment, the
reconstruction of the Baths has gone vastly over budget.

When doing up their budget did they not realise Dublin Bay is a marine environment?

Gloomtastic! · 11-10-2017 12:11pm

Thought things had ground to a halt there recently. Blaming the weather is a bit lame considering we’ve had the mildest year in decades this year. Bad budgeting more like.

If DCC don’t step in to save this project, and I can’t see anyone but the hardiest swimmers willing to use this facility year-round, then someone is going to buy it out of receivership and make a killing. All the heavy lifting has been done.

MisterDrak · 13-11-2017 12:02pm

Some shots from a friends Drone from Yesterday (Sunday 12/November).

Looks pretty impressive, when ever it will be completed...

Seth Brundle · 13-11-2017 12:26pm

The indoor area isn't that large - I'd have thought there would be more for a cafe or whatever.

spurious · 13-11-2017 3:37pm

I don't see any wheelchair access to the 'pool'. I thought that was compulsory these days?

mugwumpjism · 13-11-2017 4:29pm

There is a real market for a venue with steam room/sauna and pool without having to pay for a gym and if the outside pool is heated it would attract a large membership IMO. Is it DCC you have to contact for details?

panda100 · 13-11-2017 4:53pm

MisterDrak wrote:

Looks pretty impressive, when ever it will be completed...

Wow looks amazing. I certainly will be travelling up from Limerick to try it out when built.

humberklog · 13-11-2017 5:00pm

spurious wrote: »

I don't see any wheelchair access to the 'pool'. I thought that was compulsory these days?

The space on the far right, between exterior wall and case block might be for a lift?

AndrewJRenko · 13-11-2017 5:29pm

humberklog wrote: »

The space on the far right, between exterior wall and case block might be for a lift?

Maybe, but it looks like there is lots of space for adequate ramps to have been designed in. Ramps don't break down or go out of order.

bren2001 · 29-01-2018 2:59pm

This is due to open at the end of next month. It looks like a disaster.

The pool is not open to the public, they require €400,000 funding from someone to cover insurance, life guards etc. so for the time being, the pool element is only open to clubs who have their own insurance and life guard.

It also looks absolutely terrible. Its looks like a concrete mess.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/first-look-clontarf-baths-after-2-4m-revamp-1.3365904

Shedite27 · 29-01-2018 3:02pm

bren2001 wrote: »

This is due to open at the end of next month. It looks like a disaster.

The pool is not open to the public, they require €400,000 funding from someone to cover insurance, life guards etc. so for the time being, the pool element is only open to clubs who have their own insurance and life guard.

It also looks absolutely terrible. Its looks like a concrete mess.

Tell us what you really think Bren

mugwumpjism · 29-01-2018 3:09pm

I emailed about membership they said they have no plans as yet but are looking into it...also I note that the pool is unheated....I think that would be me out, I am too much of a wuss for winter swimming and if it is that nice in the Summer I'll just go to Howth or Killiney. Don't really see the point except if you are in a club.

marvin42 · 29-01-2018 3:44pm

Not sure if they cared much about the pool anyway, seems this was a way to build a restaurant where you would not gotten planing permission. Don't get me wrong, i actually like the project, but i never understood why you would need in 2018 a to small, unheated outdoor swimming pool.

wakka12 · 29-01-2018 3:50pm

I thought the whole point was that its heated? Sad, I was excited for it. A heated pool would be amazing with that view

And how did it cost 1 million to built that pool if its not even heated and the structure was already there, it was just simple concrete basin to begin with

marvin42 · 29-01-2018 4:30pm

wakka12 wrote: »

And how did it cost 1 million to built that pool if its not even heated and the structure was already there, it was just simple concrete basin to begin with

...1 million is not sooo much, if you consider the the cost of lowering the flood wall in clontarf :-)

Gloomtastic! · 29-01-2018 4:46pm

They’re spending an absolute fortune on the place - 30+ tradesmen on site everyday. Their website www.thebaths.ie says they’ll be opening the restaurant gradually so they really are making this up as they go along.

It’s going to be a totally unique location when it’s completed but then they have to make it financially viable with the restaurant/cafe. 8 out of 10 new restaurants fail.

Their nerves must be shredded by this stage, you have to wish them the best!!

wakka12 · 29-01-2018 4:52pm

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

They’re spending an absolute fortune on the place - 30+ tradesmen on site everyday. Their website www.thebaths.ie says they’ll be opening the restaurant gradually so they really are making this up as they go along.

It’s going to be a totally unique location when it’s completed but then they have to make it financially viable with the restaurant/cafe. 8 out of 10 new restaurants fail.

Their nerves must be shredded by this stage, you have to wish them the best!!

Id say it'll be extremely popular due to the view it allows

Gloomtastic! · 29-01-2018 5:17pm

wakka12 wrote: »

Id say it'll be extremely popular due to the view it allows

Indeed. Give that place to any experienced restaurateur and they'd probably make a killing. But they've never run a restaurant before. That's why they're opening gradually.

humberklog · 29-01-2018 6:16pm

wakka12 wrote: »

Id say it'll be extremely popular due to the view it allows

Is it not just a view of the oil and gas tanks on the port area?

onimpulse · 30-01-2018 1:06am

Where are the customers going to park? There is only 8 /10 spaces there & the road outside is a bus lane.

It’s not near the dart & a good walk from car parks... or at least too much of a walk for a lot of people.

Seth Brundle · 30-01-2018 10:00am

bren2001 wrote: »

This is due to open at the end of next month. It looks like a disaster.
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It also looks absolutely terrible. Its looks like a concrete mess.

I think the concrete helps it retain a lot of the "character" of the old baths!

Stephen Strange · 30-01-2018 11:01pm

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

Their nerves must be shredded by this stage, you have to wish them the best!!

I'd say it's more likely the bank's nerves are shredded!

Downtime · 30-01-2018 11:04pm

onimpulse wrote: »

Where are the customers going to park? There is only 8 /10 spaces there & the road outside is a bus lane.

It’s not near the dart & a good walk from car parks... or at least too much of a walk for a lot of people.

It is 5 minutes walk to the nearest car park which has at least 60 spaces in it.

bbbbb · 30-01-2018 11:37pm

If I recall correctly, the semicircular road is closed off, but if it was reopened as a one way, and parking perpendicular to the kerb ( I think it's wide enough) then there would be a good amount of parking.

odyssey06 · 31-01-2018 10:08am

Downtime wrote: »

It is 5 minutes walk to the nearest car park which has at least 60 spaces in it.

But usually at least 50 cars are already in it at weekends though as it is... the baths has 250 capacity, just for restaurant, add another 50 for baths ?

If we assume a third of the users are travelling by car... then unless they magic up some spaces nearby, then I think there's going to be parking issues in the area for sure / or an emptier restaurant.

It is walkable for me, so handy for dinner\drinks... but certainly if I'm out and about during the day and want to call in for lunch but need to be somewhere before hand or afterwards quickly then I'd need the car.
A lot of other people will be thinking along the same lines.

MisterDrak · 31-01-2018 10:26am

odyssey06 wrote: »

But usually at least 50 cars are already in it at weekends though as it is... the baths has 250 capacity, just for restaurant, add another 50 for baths ?

If we assume a third of the users are travelling by car... then unless they magic up some spaces nearby, then I think there's going to be parking issues in the area for sure / or an emptier restaurant.

It is walkable for me, so handy for dinner\drinks... but certainly if I'm out and about during the day and want to call in for lunch but need to be somewhere before hand or afterwards quickly then I'd need the car.
A lot of other people will be thinking along the same lines.

Also mentioned earlier in the tread, as cars are pulling out from the Baths / Restaurant they must cross the cycle route. At the weekends I know some lads doing sessions along that route and are moving pretty quick...
I'm just waiting for the headlines !

They don't have this problem 400m up the road at Vernon Ave, as the cycle path cuts around the inside of the car park.

odyssey06 · 31-01-2018 10:40am

MisterDrak wrote: »

Also mentioned earlier in the tread, as cars are pulling out from the Baths / Restaurant they must cross the cycle route. At the weekends I know some lads doing sessions along that route and are moving pretty quick...
I'm just waiting for the headlines !

Won't be just cars in the mix, it'll be pedestrians, families with kids on little pushbikes and prams etc... they'll be treating that section as a car park not as a cycle route, and I've seen how oblivious some people are in car parks.
Short of some sort of BMX ramp so the bikes can jump that section it's going to be a melee.

odyssey06 · 21-02-2018 4:16pm

Supposed to be opening next week...
http://www.thejournal.ie/clontarf-baths-3863707-Feb2018/

The large swimming pool contains a sluice that will allow filtered and clean Irish Sea water to enter and pump it out again in a refreshment process every few weeks. Part of today’s court application included the presentation of a food menu for the Baths’ two restaurants, it includes seaweed-seasoned cocktails and Dublin coddle pizzas. The main restaurant can provide seats for 160, with a further 90 seats available on a weather-proofed outside terrace – both with panoramic views of Dublin Bay. In order for a new development to be granted a pub licence, an existing one has to be extinguished. Cullen, who owns the Seafield Hotel and Spa Resort in Co Wexford and the Turk’s Head in Dublin, bought out the licence formerly attached to Browns Bar on the Naas Road in Co Dublin for €60,000.

I don't think anyone will be sipping poolside Pina Coladas just yet...

humberklog · 21-02-2018 6:14pm

Coddle pizza?

Gloomtastic! · 21-02-2018 6:45pm

humberklog wrote: »

Coddle pizza?

Looking forward to trying it!

Clontarf Baths demolishion/redevelopement

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