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    #32
    watzup
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭watzup


    RainBow_xo wrote: »
    Hi Watz :)

    I went to UL in Jan because I missed the open night and was able to squeeze in a quick talk with the professor. She just explained about the PBL aspect of the course and she said there will always be tutors guiding you to make sure you are on the right track. From the very beginning we will be exposed to patients in two clinical settings, one with a chronic illness and a pregnancy, if I remember correctly.

    She also mentioned the number of places has most likely reached its maximum and would not be increasing (approximately 120, I think), so hopefully GAMSAT scores do not move anytime soon. UL was originally meant to be GP focussed but she assured me we would have rotations similar to the other medical schools. You probably already know there is no dissection element to the course. Anddddddddd.....that's about all I can remember. HTH :D
    Hey Rainbow!

    Thanks for your reply, that has definitely helped. At this stage now its just a matter of sitting back and waiting for the offers in August I guess! :)


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    #33
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    Hi Guys,

    I was just wondering whether we would have to be able to convert fractions into decimals in the GAMSAT?

    For example, would I need to know what 9/24 is in decimals?


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    #34
    reasoning
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭reasoning


    Depends how close the answer stems are to each other. With so little time it is sometimes best to just estimate. So 9/24 I would take as 10/25. If you play with the decimals and say 100/25 is 4 so 10/25 is 0.4. As we estimated we increased both numbers so we have to take a number a little lower than 0.4. Now using long division will get you closer to the real answer but with the time limit of 1.5 second per question it may not be wise, especially if the answers are far apart to allow estimating.


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    #35
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    reasoning wrote: »
    Depends how close the answer stems are to each other. With so little time it is sometimes best to just estimate. So 9/24 I would take as 10/25. If you play with the decimals and say 100/25 is 4 so 10/25 is 0.4. As we estimated we increased both numbers so we have to take a number a little lower than 0.4. Now using long division will get you closer to the real answer but with the time limit of 1.5 second per question it may not be wise, especially if the answers are far apart to allow estimating.

    Hi reasoning, thank you for the advice! That makes a lot of sense :D


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    #36
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    dublindoctor wrote: »
    I'm a current UL med student so any questions anyone may have ask away on here or private mail, happy to answer anything!

    Hi DublinDoc,

    I noticed when I had a look around the GEM building that there was no library. Is there a specific med library somewhere else or do GEMs use the main library? If so, how far is it from the GEM building? :D


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    #37
    phish
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭phish


    Not a GEM but I know there are medical books in the main library - I could be corrected on this but I think thats what GEMs use.

    It is over in the main campus i.e. across the living bridge maybe a 5-10minute walk at most depending on how fast you walk.

    Again though I'm open to correction on this.


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    #38
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    phish wrote: »
    Not a GEM but I know there are medical books in the main library - I could be corrected on this but I think thats what GEMs use.

    It is over in the main campus i.e. across the living bridge maybe a 5-10minute walk at most depending on how fast you walk.

    Again though I'm open to correction on this.

    Thank you! That makes a lot of sense :):)


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    #39
    ULMedsoc
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭ULMedsoc


    Hi Everybody, if anyone has any questions that they would like to have answered about UL GEMS please don't hesitate to message us. We will try and clarify anything for you if we can.


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    #40
    ULMedsoc
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭ULMedsoc


    Hi
    There is a study area in the main GEMS building and then a good section of medical books in the library as well. There is a specific post-grad study room in the library and the main building which GEMS are entitled to use.
    Hope this helps!


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    #41
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    ULMedsoc wrote: »
    Hi
    There is a study area in the main GEMS building and then a good section of medical books in the library as well. There is a specific post-grad study room in the library and the main building which GEMS are entitled to use.
    Hope this helps!

    That's good to hear! I was worried there wouldn't be any areas available for reading in between tutorials and lectures and that! Is the main library very far from the GEMS building?


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    #42
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    I demonstrate at a university in Dublin and recently I had to give a tutorial on a man who presented with symptoms of an enlarged prostate. So the students were provided with a list of possible diagnoses and had to work through the given information in order to recommend courses of treatment and the likes. I was just wondering if this is the structure of PBL in UL?


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    #43
    Junoon
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Junoon


    i learned that UL course has no dissection element in it and the students are using software to learn gross anatomy .

    Will it not be difficult and disadvantageous for students when they have to compete and excel students from from other schools who have trained with cadavers?

    What you all think about it?

    Will it not make us ill prepared?

    Did anyone speak about this with any doctors or academics?
    Would also like to hear how current students of GEM at UL have to say about it ....

    thanks


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    #44
    Ballet17
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Ballet17


    Hi everyone, I'm just wondering if anyone has applied for the scholarship in UL and received a confirmation email stating they have received your application? I haven't hears anything back from them, and I suppose with all the waiting and anticipation for results next month I'm just being overly cautious, thanks!


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    #45
    Junoon
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Junoon


    hey there....i applied phase 1 application.

    I got a call back from their office regarding some clarification on the info i provided.

    they were very helpful


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    #46
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Junoon wrote: »
    i learned that UL course has no dissection element in it and the students are using software to learn gross anatomy .

    Will it not be difficult and disadvantageous for students when they have to compete and excel students from from other schools who have trained with cadavers?

    What you all think about it?

    Will it not make us ill prepared?

    Did anyone speak about this with any doctors or academics?
    Would also like to hear how current students of GEM at UL have to say about it ....

    thanks

    No. The relevance of cadaver dissection is pretty minuscule.


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    #47
    Ballet17
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Ballet17


    Junoon wrote: »
    hey there....i applied phase 1 application.

    I got a call back from their office regarding some clarification on the info i provided.

    they were very helpful

    Thanks Junoon, I might give them a call so! :)


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    #48
    Junoon
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Junoon


    thanks for your reply

    But the following article made me write that queries.Please read it and let us hear some other views from our fellow members

    http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2012/10/gross-anatomy-2.html


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    #49
    Gniht
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6 ✭Gniht


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    No. The relevance of cadaver dissection is pretty minuscule.

    citation needed.


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    #50
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Gniht wrote: »
    citation needed.

    Been there done that.

    It is quickly forgotten and personally made very little difference for the learning of anatomy when there are great books like Rohen's Atlas available. We were examined using real specimens and even for that a good atlas is much more important.

    As for surgery etc later on in your career, well it's completely a non issue and absolutely no help. If you want to do surgery you'll have many years to hold retractors and suture before you get near the good stuff!

    The only thing I liked about it was it's a novelty initially and makes you realise what you are studying.


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    #51
    Junoon
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Junoon


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    Been there done that.

    It is quickly forgotten and personally made very little difference for the learning of anatomy when there are great books like Rohen's Atlas available. We were examined using real specimens and even for that a good atlas is much more important.

    As for surgery etc later on in your career, well it's completely a non issue and absolutely no help. If you want to do surgery you'll have many years to hold retractors and suture before you get near the good stuff!

    The only thing I liked about it was it's a novelty initially and makes you realise what you are studying.

    thank you for the detailed explanation and view .


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    #52
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    Is there anyone who can shed some light on the PBL aspect of the course?


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    #53
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    Hello!
    I've looked on the BE website but I'm not having any luck finding a monthly pass (if it even exists). I was wondering do people usually pay for return tickets each time or is there any kind of scheme in place?


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    #54
    NewShoes
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭NewShoes


    RainBow_xo wrote: »
    Hello!
    I've looked on the BE website but I'm not having any luck finding a monthly pass (if it even exists). I was wondering do people usually pay for return tickets each time or is there any kind of scheme in place?

    Do you mean from the City Centre? Its €57 I think for the monthly pass from the City, and €17 weekly. You can get them in the SU on campus.


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    #55
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    NewShoes wrote: »
    Do you mean from the City Centre? Its €57 I think for the monthly pass from the City, and €17 weekly. You can get them in the SU on campus.

    Oh I'm sorry, I totally left out that information. I want to travel from Ennis to UL daily.


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    #56
    ULMedsoc
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭ULMedsoc


    RainBow_xo wrote: »
    That's good to hear! I was worried there wouldn't be any areas available for reading in between tutorials and lectures and that! Is the main library very far from the GEMS building?

    5 minute walk across the living bridge


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    #57
    ULMedsoc
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭ULMedsoc


    RainBow_xo wrote: »
    Is there anyone who can shed some light on the PBL aspect of the course?

    What are looking to know exactly?


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    #58
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    ULMedsoc wrote: »
    What are looking to know exactly?

    I demonstrate at a university and recently I had to give a tutorial on a man who presented with symptoms of an enlarged prostate. So the students were provided with a list of possible diagnoses and had to work through the given information in order to recommend courses of treatment and the likes. I was just wondering if this is the structure of PBL in UL?


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    #59
    highlydebased
    Registered Users Posts: 7,465 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    RainBow_xo wrote: »
    Oh I'm sorry, I totally left out that information. I want to travel from Ennis to UL daily.

    You can get a 10 journey ticket (5 return trips) from Dublin Coach for use UL-Ennis for €20.


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    #60
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    highlydebased wrote: »
    You can get a 10 journey ticket (5 return trips) from Dublin Coach for use UL-Ennis for €20.

    I emailed them and they said it is €10 for 10 single journeys(student price). That's great value! Thank you.


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    #61
    RainBow_xo
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭RainBow_xo


    Has any one received Statement of Application Record from CAO? I've received mine and only my LC results are shown, is this normal?


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