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Sexism you have personally experienced or have heard of? *READ POST 1*
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TBH, why would any IT student be interested in working / interning for McAfee anyway? Their anti-virus has been **** for decades and, honestly, the greatest surprise for me is that they're still a going concern. Most techies I know regard their software as malware...
Plenty - their biggest source of income isn't the consumer market but the business one; If things haven't changed since I worked there (yeah, the "friend" thing never works, does it?
), their main cashcow is a product called "ePolicy Orchestrator", which allows sysadmins to manage security policies across LANs and WANs. Also, they have contracts with a lot of OEM to include their products, just like Symantec does/did.
In all fairness, plenty of good people worked with me in the Cork office back then, it's a few odd ones at the top which are the problem.freshpopcorn wrote: »There's a one on crimecall talking about the sale and supply of sex in Ireland and it's all being directed at men buy it.
So, I take it women never buy sex?
Well, like it or not, men are always going to be the main buyers of sex.
A lot of people don't want to hear about this nor want to admit, but sex is easier to access for women; It doesn't matter an ounce how you look, what you wear, how old or how successful you are - if you're a woman and want sex NOW, there are plenty of guys out there ready to throw themselves at you for free; The whole "men are jerks who only look at perfect Victoria's Secrets Angel type girls" is just a myth, perpetrated by media mostly aimed at women, in order to play on their sense of guilt and coax them into buying sh1t they don't need like diet pills, "hot yoga" courses or plastic surgery.
Heck, there's enough critical mass in variety of tastes to sustain very profitable specialized adult entertainment industries - there ARE such things as BBW, granny and even amputee porn!!!
For men, the opposite is true - unless you are at the very top of your game, the choice and opportunity is limited if not non-existent. Sure, Chris Hemsworth can walk into any club and have every woman in there chasing after him, but the average bloke will go home alone most of the times.
Not to mention the non-average guy: ft, short, with a disability? No chance for you.
And before anyone goes on a crusade against the obvious, yes - this situation is just natural; It's not that "women are evil and superficial", quite the opposite: they stand to risk and lose more from having sex with the wrong person, so nature just put a "safety filter" in the form of selection.
Whereas men, well, we're basically programmed to "spread the love" 0 -
H3llR4iser wrote: »Well, like it or not, men are always going to be the main buyers of sex.
A lot of people don't want to hear about this nor want to admit, but sex is easier to access for women; It doesn't matter an ounce how you look, what you wear, how old or how successful you are - if you're a woman and want sex NOW, there are plenty of guys out there ready to throw themselves at you for free; The whole "men are jerks who only look at perfect Victoria's Secrets Angel type girls" is just a myth, perpetrated by media mostly aimed at women, in order to play on their sense of guilt and coax them into buying sh1t they don't need like diet pills, "hot yoga" courses or plastic surgery.
Heck, there's enough critical mass in variety of tastes to sustain very profitable specialized adult entertainment industries - there ARE such things as BBW, granny and even amputee porn!!!
For men, the opposite is true - unless you are at the very top of your game, the choice and opportunity is limited if not non-existent. Sure, Chris Hemsworth can walk into any club and have every woman in there chasing after him, but the average bloke will go home alone most of the times.
Not to mention the non-average guy: ft, short, with a disability? No chance for you.
And before anyone goes on a crusade against the obvious, yes - this situation is just natural; It's not that "women are evil and superficial", quite the opposite: they stand to risk and lose more from having sex with the wrong person, so nature just put a "safety filter" in the form of selection.
Whereas men, well, we're basically programmed to "spread the love"
I get what your saying.
The person I heard speaking just came across as all men are bad,etc.
Even the Gardai that spoke after her said "when people buy sex."0 -
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Are there many software vendors (outside of gaming) that make most of their income from the consumer market these days? I'd never heard of ePolicy Orchestrator. Though, I've always worked more in data or business systems consulting rather than network security so not entirely surprising. Interesting to hear where they're focused as a company nowadays though!H3llR4iser wrote: »Plenty - their biggest source of income isn't the consumer market but the business one; If things haven't changed since I worked there (yeah, the "friend" thing never works, does it? ), their main cashcow is a product called "ePolicy Orchestrator", which allows sysadmins to manage security policies across LANs and WANs. Also, they have contracts with a lot of OEM to include their products, just like Symantec does/did.
In all fairness, plenty of good people worked with me in the Cork office back then, it's a few odd ones at the top which are the problem.
My comment was based on my observation that the only businesses I've seen using McAfee Antivirus products were public sector organisations where the IT staff would tend to be at the poorer qualified end of the scale (often legacy staff who joined after their leaving cert and placed into IT because they were hobbyists but even these days few top grads want to work for PS pay levels) .
In that environment buying a "big name" is often more important than buying a good product (the "No-one ever got fired for buying IBM" strategy). The private sectors organisations I've worked with tended to go with Symantec / Avast or even the in-built Microsoft Security Essentials for desktop users and I don't think I've ever known a good techie who rated McAfee Anti-Virus.0 -
Are there many software vendors (outside of gaming) that make most of their income from the consumer market these days? I'd never heard of ePolicy Orchestrator. Though, I've always worked more in data or business systems consulting rather than network security so not entirely surprising. Interesting to hear where they're focused as a company nowadays though!
My comment was based on my observation that the only businesses I've seen using McAfee Antivirus products were public sector organisations where the IT staff would tend to be at the poorer qualified end of the scale (often legacy staff who joined after their leaving cert and placed into IT because they were hobbyists but even these days few top grads want to work for PS pay levels) .
In that environment buying a "big name" is often more important than buying a good product (the "No-one ever got fired for buying IBM" strategy). The private sectors organisations I've worked with tended to go with Symantec / Avast or even the in-built Microsoft Security Essentials for desktop users and I don't think I've ever known a good techie who rated McAfee Anti-Virus.
You'd be surprised - plenty of giant tech enterprises are in their customers list, including names like NGK, Makino or Hitachi; Even a large military contractor in the US (one that makes fighter jets - you can figure it out) uses, or was using EPO back then. I think it's more popular in the US/Japan/Korea than it is here; Also, there were a plethora other B2B systems and services they developed/supported at the time.
I've hardly ever seen a company using Avast or Microsoft SE (not that they ain't good - I've been using the second on my home workstation and laptops since Win 10 came out), but the other solutions I've seen (like, Sophos...) aren't really superior to ePO, and I'm not saying just because I worked on it. So yep, that's why they have market still.
Back on topic - The Cork office ain't a bad place to work, as I said most of the people are great, I've had a good time there; Yet, some of the middle to top management are obsessed with virtue signaling and appearing in the media for "the right reasons", which can result in hilariously stupid initiatives like the one we're talking about
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