Offseason 2021 - Trades, Free Agency, QB Carousel

I will cry if this ends up being Ryan Pace's 'swing for the fences to save my job' move at QB. I have a feeling it will be.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1358147327282806787?s=19

Oat23 wrote: »

I will cry if this ends up being Ryan Pace's 'swing for the fences to save my job' move at QB. I have a feeling it will be.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1358147327282806787?s=19

If this happens I was completely wrong. The coaching change seeming designed to keep Wentz and was not expecting a team to give Eagles close to enough to eat the dead cap.

Even with the savings from the money the Eagles will eat, a first sounds like a huge overpay for that contract given his recent performances.

I wonder if this is planted intel trying to drum up interest - the way it is worded points to it coming from the Eagles camp.

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

He will retire after June 1st to spread the dead cap over two years instead of one. He had two void years at the end of his deal that allows them to do this.

Good for them

el Fenomeno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1358456243820638217?s=19

With the 2021 cap expected to be ~ $180m, it'll be interesting to see what those teams do to get back under the cap. Assuming the Brees restructure isn't taken into account above but they'll still have a lot to do.

Fans of those teams, what are they likely to do and what big names will likely be cap casualties?

A quick look on OTC shows the Steelers can get back under the Cap with 5-6 extension / restructure type moves. Vance McDonald has already retired so that’s $5m off the number above and they have about the same again in carryover from 2020. Ben and Maurkise Pouncey might still retire. If they do they will be back around the $180m but their problems will be far from over.

Their biggest issue is that they have 19 guys hitting free agency, including 7-8 important starters. Trying to bring those guys back will be the problem if they want to be remotely competitive next year. Juju, Bud Dupree, James Conner and Mike Hilton would be the best known guys they are likely to lose. Villanueva their LT is likely to retire and their left guard Feiler will also be gone as well.

Whatever happens 2021 is not going to be pretty I fear. They would probably be as well off to move on from Ben, but I don’t think they will.

adrian522 wrote: »

He was so bad this year and his contract is so bad its hard to imagine there is much market from him. The tweets recently seem more like either the Eagles or his agent trying to generate some buzz or try to increase his value.

Anyone taking him on should not be giving up more than a mid-round pick in my opinion.

He was QB 34 by passer rating this year:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/season/2020/seasontype/2/table/passing/sort/QBRating/dir/desc

Any team who is even thinking of trading for him should ask him a few questions. 1) are you fully healthy ? 2) what’s the one issue we’d need to address to get you back to your best ? 3) are you willing to be coached and except criticism ?

The reason for those questions are because 1) I don’t believe he was fully healthy the season just gone. Something was wrong and regardless of where he is, it needs to be fixed. 2) this is about his mechanics and in game decision making which when you watch as many eagles games as eagles fans do, it’s clear that is off. He is holding on to the ball way too long and is either not seeing his reads or is and is for whatever reason not going to the open player and going to his safety blanket regardless of whether they are open or not, which leads to INTs, 3) This is a question I’d ask because the talk is that he’s not the type of player to except criticism and it did show in that Doug pederson left him in as starter way longer then he should when it was clear it was hurting the team. I mean look how the eagles players reacted to both nick foles during the super bowl win and even Jalen hurts during his team at the end of this season. It’s different to wentz.

JJ Watt released by the Texans. 3 time defensive player of the year.

Had one year left on his contract and by releasing him now, the Texans don't suffer any cap hit but surely they could have found a trade partner. The Steelers will surely be interested in him with having both his brothers there.

VillaMad wrote: »

JJ Watt released by the Texans. 3 time defensive player of the year.

Had one year left on his contract and by releasing him now, the Texans don't suffer any cap hit but surely they could have found a trade partner. The Steelers will surely be interested in him with having both his brothers there.

Only if he's interested in playing for the minimum. Steelers have no cap space at all.

VillaMad wrote:

JJ Watt released by the Texans. 3 time defensive player of the year.

Had one year left on his contract and by releasing him now, the Texans don't suffer any cap hit but surely they could have found a trade partner. The Steelers will surely be interested in him with having both his brothers there.

Wouldn't surprise me one but to see him take a vet minimum deal with the Bucs or Chiefs to try get a ring.

I've always wanted to see how a team would even begin to try block both Watt and Donald. Won't happen, but it'd be a sight to see.