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Knock/Eirtrade thread

  • 04-02-2020 1:00pm
    #1
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭


    Inbound to knock on Friday between 1300-1400 for scrapping F-HPJB


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  • #2
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    For real?! An A380 will be scrapped in NOC?


  • #3
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    How did this come about?


  • #4
    Van.Bosch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    Locker10a wrote: »
    For real?! An A380 will be scrapped in NOC?

    Seems unbelievable to me too, unless that lad who owns the glamping campsite with the 767? is taking it but I would imagine there would be press about that.


  • #5
    Board Walker
    Registered Users Posts: 770 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    https://simpleflying.com/air-france-superjumbo-retirement/

    Unbelievable!

    How will they transport the Turbines? Surely They would need a large aircraft to be able to take off there


  • #6
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There is a scrapping/salvage firm (Eirtrade I think) in NOC.
    Board Walker wrote: »
    Which Aircraft?? Surely a Test bed?

    Reg is in the opening post. Normal A380, actually one of the Wave 2 ones that don't have the difficult to maintain wiring harnesses at that.


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  • #7
    sparrowcar
    Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    FHPJB
    Its mad altogether but seems legit.


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Call sign is AFR375S. As always info comes with a health warning but this seems legit.


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Board Walker wrote: »
    https://simpleflying.com/air-france-superjumbo-retirement/

    Unbelievable!

    How will they transport the Turbines? Surely They would need a large aircraft to be able to take off there

    Usual more cost effective to use a low loader. There again you may see an IL76 or a 747 fly in to pick them up.


  • #10
    PCros
    Registered Users Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭PCros


    This aircraft is only 10 years old...

    Are A380's haemorrhaging money that badly?


  • #11
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    would have thought this was a rather disappointing turn of events for Airbus


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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    lawred2 wrote: »
    would have thought this was a rather disappointing turn of events for Airbus

    Airbus won’t care at this stage as they have been fully paid. The production line shutting down soon so they have adjusted to it. No orders in quite some time.


  • #13
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    In knock??? Really? Is the runway able to handle it? And where will it be stored?


  • #14
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 19,651 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I'll take it.


  • #15
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,840 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    why are airlines still talking delivery of these, if relatively new ones are already being scrapped? I mean the economics will be the same surely, in ten years when the new ones need a refit?!


  • #16
    Skyknight
    Registered Users Posts: 390 ✭✭Skyknight


    EIKN is 747 capable, under certain circumstances....and it's not like its going anywhere afterwards(except piece by piece).


  • #17
    artanevilla
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,250 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    In knock??? Really? Is the runway able to handle it? And where will it be stored?

    Be landing empty so should be fine. Will be torn down, so no need for big storage. Parts will go to Rathcoole I'd imagine.


  • #18
    kevinandrew
    Registered Users Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    why are airlines still talking delivery of these, if relatively new ones are already being scrapped? I mean the economics will be the same surely, in ten years when the new ones need a refit?!

    The only airline still taking delivery of the A380 is Emirates as these are part of long standing orders, the cost of cancelling from Airbus, purchasing a second hand frame and then refitting such a large airliner would be outrageously high.

    The second hand market for the A380 is near non existent anyway, nobody wants to take a 10 year old A380 at market value and begin the difficult, time consuming and expensive task of stripping it and reconfiguring it to their standards.


  • #19
    Skyknight
    Registered Users Posts: 390 ✭✭Skyknight


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    why are airlines still talking delivery of these, if relatively new ones are already being scrapped? I mean the economics will be the same surely, in ten years when the new ones need a refit?!
    F-HPJB was No.40 off the production line, and in all likelihood is among the heavier of the A380's, and therefore a lot more expensive to run.


  • #20
    hopeso
    Registered Users Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭hopeso


    PCros wrote: »
    This aircraft is only 10 years old...

    Are A380's haemorrhaging money that badly?

    All Air France A380's are to be gone from the fleet by 2022 apparently....


  • #21
    intellectual dosser
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭intellectual dosser


    I don't buy this, where would the aircraft even sit while it is being dismantled?


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  • #22
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    intellectual dosser wrote: »
    I don't buy this, where would the aircraft even sit while it is being dismantled?

    Eitrade have a hangar and pad which they've scrapped plenty of other airframes on

    https://eirtradeaviation.com/asset-management/aircraft-storage-disassembly/


  • #23
    intellectual dosser
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭intellectual dosser


    L1011 wrote: »
    Eitrade have a hangar and pad which they've scrapped plenty of other airframes on

    https://eirtradeaviation.com/asset-management/aircraft-storage-disassembly/

    I had no idea that was there..


  • #24
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 19,651 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I was very recently reading an article on choosing flights and it was saying for economy seating, particularly long duration, your best bet was an A380. It's certainly would be my preference for a 12 hour flight. This is a retrograde step from the point of view of passenger comfort.


  • #25
    PinOnTheRight
    Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭PinOnTheRight


    Incidentally, I read today that the final set of A380 wings to be produced are to leave the factory in Broughton on Thursday.


  • #26
    Turbulent Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭Turbulent Bill


    I'd love to see an operating cost analysis for the A380. The big twins are more efficient, but that was the case even when the A380 was launched. Are they a maintenance black hole?

    Crazy to think that a 10 year old airframe is going for beer cans, but presumably the bean counters know their stuff.


  • #27
    Noxegon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    PinOnTheRight wrote: »
    Incidentally, I read today that the final set of A380 wings to be produced are to leave the factory in Broughton on Thursday.

    One less line to move post-Brexit.

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



  • #28
    mayotom
    Registered Users Posts: 742 ✭✭✭mayotom


    kevinandrew wrote: »
    The only airline still taking delivery of the A380 is Emirates as these are part of long standing orders, the cost of cancelling from Airbus, purchasing a second hand frame and then refitting such a large airliner would be outrageously high.

    The second hand market for the A380 is near non existent anyway, nobody wants to take a 10 year old A380 at market value and begin the difficult, time consuming and expensive task of stripping it and reconfiguring it to their standards.

    This is the last set of Wings, it was moved out of the factory here at Hawarden this afternoon, due to ship out on Thursday. Will be for ANA Japanese airlines who are in the process of recieving the final few aircraft.


  • #29
    mayotom
    Registered Users Posts: 742 ✭✭✭mayotom


    PinOnTheRight wrote: »
    Incidentally, I read today that the final set of A380 wings to be produced are to leave the factory in Broughton on Thursday.

    Was down at the factory this afternoon they were moving the wings out to the Dock for Thursday's sailing


  • #30
    EI321
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭EI321


    Apparently the A380s are a maintenance nightmare as they age due to their vast complexity. The lack of a second hand or freighter conversion market will see many parked or scrapped as they approach what used to be D checks.


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  • #31
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    EI321 wrote: »
    Apparently the A380s are a maintenance nightmare as they age due to their vast complexity. The lack of a second hand or freighter conversion market will see many parked or scrapped as they approach what used to be D checks.

    I'd imagine airports will start culling the infrastructure for them too, double airbridge etc., so the number of available route options will fall.


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