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  • Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭CamillaRhodes


    Junk Adele wrote: »
    I have listened even before Phantom was Phantom. when Simon was in a shed in Ballybrack. I have told people from various countries to listen to Phantom. I am now embarrassed .
    I have now realised that Phantom has to Die.
    If we keep listening, it's a false loyalty. We love what they were, they aren't that now. We are older, they are dead. Do not tune in any more because, you (we) are greasing the Machine. Phantom is Dead! Let's kill Phantom.
    It hurts me, but there you go.
    To all the the people like Me and me Mates, and you lot in Raheny, Firhouse, ballybrack, and all around the world...."
    Phantom is Dead
    Long live Phantom.

    Your post makes me so sad, but I fear maybe you're right. I wouldn't say it's all dead, your (almost) namesake's show has a fair dose of integrity (is that you??), ditto the Ritchies and, to be fair, though we all howled in disgust when Claire Beck was hired, she actually turned out to be more than daycent. It just seems the top level management making the big programming decisions - the tone and voice of new hires (*cough*breakfast*cough*), the incessant heavy-rotation choices etc. - didn't have a clue about what Phantom was and why it had a listenership.

    The other tough reality is that advertising spend in traditional media is down all-round, and the more old-school business mindsets who would advertise on radio wouldn't necessarily 'get' the old-style niche Phantom either. The solution had to be either try really hard to get niche brand partnerships, brands whose close association with Phantom would tie-in with their listener demographic, rather than just chasing regular ad-slot spend (in which Phantom couldn't compete with mainstream stations) or cut their expenses - maybe they did have too many paid DJs, or other operational expenses? (I have no idea on this, just speculating, but I assume back in the day everyone was working for a lot less).

    It's the same sort of challenges facing quality newspapers and magazines these days; readership is down, advertisers are moving away to where the readership is (online), but there is still such an inherent cultural need for quality journalism - facebook and TMZ can not replace it. God help us all if they do.

    But so how does a niche station remain profitable enough to cover costs, while retaining its integrity and not trying to emulate todayfm? I have no answer to this. I wish someone at phantom did, but I guess not either :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Srobify


    What is it with Phantoms obsession with John Grant. His new song is on the station 63% of the time 25% of the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭thalia_13


    Srobify wrote: »
    What is it with Phantoms obsession with John Grant. His new song is on the station 63% of the time 25% of the time.

    His gig tomorrow night probably is the main reason,?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Srobify


    thalia_13 wrote: »
    His gig tomorrow night probably is the main reason,?

    I was basically making the point of the repetitiveness of station lately


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Kelly Ann Byrne is already signed up to TodayFM it seems from her Twitter.
    The weekender is a great mix of tunes, so good to see her still going.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭micar


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Kelly Ann Byrne is already signed up to TodayFM it seems from her Twitter.
    The weekender is a great mix of tunes, so good to see her still going.


    I like her show. She plays music I ordinarily wouldn't listen to.

    It makes want to go out and get some of the albums but I can never remember who she plays.


  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭thalia_13


    Srobify wrote: »
    I was basically making the point of the repetitiveness of station lately

    You are right, and I knew what you meant, when a certain gig is coming up, they really play the band /artists to death, so because he was tonight, he got alot of airplay. same with St Vincent last week, it does my head in.

    saying that, Today Fm and 2fm played RHCP to.death around the time they played Phoenix Park etc, I flipping hate them as a band now, because hearing them incessantly in.work just ruined any enjoyment of songs....


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Kelly Ann Byrne is already signed up to TodayFM it seems from her Twitter.
    The weekender is a great mix of tunes, so good to see her still going.
    I wonder if it will be simulcast on Phantom at the same time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    So, next week is the last week then? Or has a set day bee picked for the 're-launch'?
    Seems odd still hearing the Phantom shows / line ups getting advertised, knowing their fate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Five Lamps


    Does anybody know when Phantom closes and the new yoke starts? Is there a fancy launch? Any of the Madmen in ad land getting briefed on the new station? It will be interesting to see what happens at weekends. Perhaps Ed's Indie Disco spilling over onto Phantom as well or can we expect pre-records from various people in Marconi House?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,725 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Last week for the presenters this week but I have heard nothing of a launch yet


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,986 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    The last Ritchie and Ritchie Show finished at 10 - last show for Ritchie McCormack and second last for Ritchie Ryan (one more Stadium Rock this Saturday). Much emotion - see other thread about Ritchie and Ritchie.

    Now we are on to Laura Lee Conboy's last Spiral Stares. Laura and her two on-air guests (one of whom is Phantom's Will St. Ledger - his last Weekender tomorrow) are a bit giddy. They are doing a kind of best of in the Gothic sphere- the music is great so far. Wish I had listened to Spiral Stares more over the years. Always the same story!

    Great song from the The Cure being played now as I re-edit this post!

    I presume the last Metal Notes, Lounge and ICON were on this week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,986 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    By the way, after going way from it for a while, I came back to the radio and listened to about the last half-hour of the final Spiral Stares. Laura spent over 5 minutes talking about some of her highlights with Phantom over the years.

    I did not know until tonight that she came to Phantom in 2003. That must have been while it was still a pirate because she certainly did not crop up in the schedule in their first temporary license later the same year. How could you miss a name like that?!

    They overran by about 5 minutes. What were the bosses going to do about that? Sack her?! The closing song was sheer class - "Transmission" by Joy Division.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,217 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    You know what, we should start a campaign to get as many people to unlike Phantom on Facebook and stop following them on Twitter. I'm glad John Caddell and to a lesser extent, Clare Beck are staying but jeez, Joe over the 2 Richies or any of the specialist shows? For shame.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    missed the last R&R, hopefully someone recorded it like when Michelle and Richie and the others finished up in 2012.

    caught Derek Byrne's last show of The Lounge on Tuesday night, sad to see that go, always hearing great tunes new and old on there.
    http://www.phantom.ie/blogs/190.191.196.251/4652/-/Playlist:_The_Last_Lounge_%E2%80%93_Tuesday_11th_of_March_2014%20-%20Playlist:_The_Last_Lounge_%E2%80%93_Tuesday_11th_of_March_2014


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,358 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    missed the last R&R, hopefully someone recorded it like when Michelle and Richie and the others finished up in 2012.

    caught Derek Byrne's last show of The Lounge on Tuesday night, sad to see that go, always hearing great tunes new and old on there.
    http://www.phantom.ie/blogs/190.191.196.251/4652/-/Playlist:_The_Last_Lounge_%E2%80%93_Tuesday_11th_of_March_2014%20-%20Playlist:_The_Last_Lounge_%E2%80%93_Tuesday_11th_of_March_2014

    Super show. Will miss Derek on t'radio. He DJ's in Doyles on a thurs night if anyone wants a good dance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Seems surreal with still no word on the new shows or rebrand.
    Why even bother tune in next week?
    It's been like a wake of sorts over the past couple of weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    This last week has been one of best weeks for Phantom ever, most of the DJ's seemed to be cutting loose, playing what the wanted to play. The way it always should have been!

    And it was refreshingly good!

    So long Phantom, it's been emotional....


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,986 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    It's interesting that every time people are doing their last show that the music mix gets much more adventurous and loose and free. During the last few days, it had the spirit of the old Phantom from the pirate days and the early licensed days.

    I will tune in next week (wearing my anorak!) to see what is going on. I am always interested in the latest radio development, even if it is simply a rebrand.

    Best of luck to those who have just left or will have left by the end of the weekend.

    Did anyone catch the last Metal Notes on Monday or the last Icon on Wednesday?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,358 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    great overview here.

    http://t.co/CTMzAEV2Oi


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  • Registered Users Posts: 905 ✭✭✭Ciaran


    Great to hear NPB on the radio again. Cathal Funge playing some good stuff this morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,986 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    lordgoat wrote: »
    great overview here.

    http://t.co/CTMzAEV2Oi

    That is a brilliant article.

    A couple of omissions though:
    1. Phantom had another influential heavy metal guru during its pirate era - Tom Hayes.

    2.There was no mention of the temporary licensed era of 2003 and 2004. During Phantom's two temporary license runs, one or two more names joined the station such as Sinead Ni Mhordha. Also, Steve Conway was Head of News, harking back to the type of role he had when he was with offshore pirate Radio Caroline.

    3. What about Ger Rowe's Anorak Hour (briefly called Media Beacon during the temporary runs)? This pre-dated Phantom and kept going until April 1st 2007. This was an important link with the station's founders' anorak interests.

    4. There was no mention of Brian Daly who left legal radio to join Phantom as a pirate and was to be their marketing director when it went commercial. He was another important figure in the station's history.

    5. I think Aidan Lynch and Alcatraz is worth a mention too. He effectively set up the musical blueprint for Phantom when he left Simon Maher's Coast FM in 1994 to set up an alternative rock off-shoot called Alcatraz. Jack Hyland and John Caddell both came from Alcatraz. After Coast FM closed in February 1996, it was followed in July of that year by Spectrum. Spectrum was a combination of Coast FM and Alcatraz staff. As we know, this was to become Phantom. Aidan was part of the original management team when it became fully licensed and he was also the original presenter of Icon.

    But, I don't wish to take away from the article as it still gives a very good account of the station's history. It is the most detailed one I have seen yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Great article, I remember working part time in Kilmainham in 96/97, and coming across Spectrum on the radio in the shop. It was class, never heard radio like it. I used to like the way they prided themselves on their cheapness, like picking competition winners from the 'Spectrum Plastic Bag'!

    Unfortunately, the signal wasn't strong enough to get it at home, so I could only listen to it in work. I used to love work back then!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,986 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    I heard the last 20 minutes or so of Richie Ryan's Stadium Rock today - his last with Phantom. It was a bit of an emotional affair. He mentioned the famous shed and Simon Maher and of course the other Richie. He also mentioned at one point friends Gerry and Cliona. It could be a coincidence but former boss of Phantom Ger Rowe's partner was called Cliona (she used to be on Coast FM after Ger).

    Richie's last song: We Are the Champions by Queen.

    Earlier this morning, I heard the end of The Breakfast Club with Nadine O'Regan - another person finishing up. She kept it very professional with almost business as usual. Her last song was "Free Fallin'" by Tom Petty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Adiaga 2


    I heard the last 20 minutes or so of Richie Ryan's Stadium Rock today - his last with Phantom. It was a bit of an emotional affair. He mentioned the famous shed and Simon Maher and of course the other Richie. He also mentioned at one point friends Gerry and Cliona. It could be a coincidence but former boss of Phantom Ger Rowe's partner was called Cliona (she used to be on Coast FM after Ger).

    Richie's last song: We Are the Champions by Queen.

    Earlier this morning, I heard the end of The Breakfast Club with Nadine O'Regan - another person finishing up. She kept it very professional with almost business as usual. Her last song was "Free Fallin'" by Tom Petty.

    All the guys finishing up these last few days have been so dignified and professional about everything and it's been really humbling to listen to. The end of Stadium Rock yesterday was just about perfect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    I've decided Phantom should be taken over by RTE, and financed as a public service. Where are the state broadcaster's schedule is indie and alternative music catered for? 3 hours on a Sunday with Cormac Battle's Battle Axe?

    We all pay our TV licence for RTE, and what do we get? Lyric FM? I suppose it's alternative, but not in the same vein as Phantom.

    As someone pointed out earlier, a station like Phantom would probably never be financially viable, but that's what makes it so good, it doesn't sound like all the other generic stations, which are just painful to listen to.

    So, in order to provide a public service to independent and alternative music lovers, homegrown and up and coming Irish bands, RTE should take over the Phantom licence, hire the pre 2012 DJ's back, and let the good times roll on!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,217 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    infacteh wrote: »
    I've decided Phantom should be taken over by RTE, and financed as a public service. Where are the state broadcaster's schedule is indie and alternative music catered for? 3 hours on a Sunday with Cormac Battle's Battle Axe?

    We all pay our TV licence for RTE, and what do we get? Lyric FM? I suppose it's alternative, but not in the same vein as Phantom.

    As someone pointed out earlier, a station like Phantom would probably never be financially viable, but that's what makes it so good, it doesn't sound like all the other generic stations, which are just painful to listen to.

    So, in order to provide a public service to independent and alternative music lovers, homegrown and up and coming Irish bands, RTE should take over the Phantom licence, hire the pre 2012 DJ's back, and let the good times roll on!

    I agree with you but 2xm does that job for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭The_Captain


    I'm guessing what's on now is just pre-recorded bits from various presenters about their favourite songs etc.
    When does it actually go off the air? Midnight?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    John C mentioned earlier that TXFM will launch on the 31st March, and that there will still be music between now and then. No mentioned of what that entails though.

    Seems to be a 'best of' highlight show at the moment?
    It stops at midnight? Anyone been listening? I only tuned in around 20mins ago.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭Twizzler


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    John C mentioned earlier that TXFM will launch on the 31st March, and that there will still be music between now and then. No mentioned of what that entails though.

    Seems to be a 'best of' highlight show at the moment?
    It stops at midnight? Anyone been listening? I only tuned in around 20mins ago.

    Yep, listening here...they're playing out with The Frames, Revelate.


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