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beef price tracker

  • 24-01-2012 12:36pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    any interest in having a factory beef price tracker on here?


    got 4 hiefers to go, 3rs and 1o

    got the following quotes for base price on Mon 23 Jan

    4.10e/kg aibp bandon
    4.15e/kg aibp cahir

    quotes including bord bia
    am holding tough as hoping for 4.25e/kg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    hmmm suppose I could see what everyone else is getting :D

    Would you not show the animals in the mart? majority of animals I have seen through the ring in the last 3 weeks have made more than going direct for slaughter. Its a funny old world


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    a agent from dawnmeats waterford over the weekend was telling me of a guy getting 1.60 a pound last week for heifers,the same guy supplies 2 lorry loads a week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    leg wax wrote: »
    a agent from dawnmeats waterford over the weekend was telling me of a guy getting 1.60 a pound last week for heifers,the same guy supplies 2 lorry loads a week.

    unless it a flat price for all quality assured U's he is talking through his rear end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    unless it a flat price for all quality assured U's he is talking through his rear end.
    no he had no reason to talk out his ass, and as for spec i dont know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭dealerman


    hmmm suppose I could see what everyone else is getting :D

    why bob you getting more than the rest of us

    cozzie


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  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭huey1975


    ]

    unless it a flat price for all quality assured U's he is talking through his rear end.[/Quote]
    Just because you're not getting it doesn't mean it's not true.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    OK

    I sent two bullocks to kepak last week

    1. Cold Kgs 398.40 , graded R+ , €4.11 per kg totalling 1,637.42
    2. Cold kgs 375.80 , graded O= , €3.93 per kg totalling 1,476.89

    Is this the type of information you are looking for?


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 sprouty


    How does 1.30 p/lb or 3.64 c/kg sound for R grade cull cows?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    anyway we could keep this to actual verified prices offered/paid?
    rather than the stories of the lad 3 parish's over that gets twice the money than everyone else:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    3.64 c/kg sounds like great money to me for a cull... especially considering young stock were hardly making that 12mths ago:(.


  • Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    sprouty wrote: »
    How does 1.30 p/lb or 3.64 c/kg sound for R grade cull cows?

    Exactly what we sent cows into moyvalley for today. also 410 for heifers including 1 old one that got hard to go incalf and when she finally did the bitch slipped d calf at about half term:mad: Good money though me thinks:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    [/Quote]
    Just because you're not getting it doesn't mean it's not true.[/QUOTE]

    Maybe so, talk is cheap, remember - believe half of what you see and a quarter of what you hear.
    dealerman wrote: »
    why bob you getting more than the rest of us

    I wish:(


    All I will say is be careful with who your dealing with,especially if they are offering the top price :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭dealerman


    quoated prices this week €4 base blks €4.10 base young heifers
    most cattle being bought at these prices in the south not so up the country .05 to.10 cents more being got in cases cows over 600 pounds
    o grade €3.50 to3.60 r grade €3.60 to 3.70 some men claim to be getting €3.78 for heavy r and u grade cows


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    49801 wrote: »
    any interest in having a factory beef price tracker on here?


    got 4 hiefers to go, 3rs and 1o

    got the following quotes for base price on Mon 23 Jan

    4.10e/kg aibp bandon
    4.15e/kg aibp cahir

    quotes including bord bia
    am holding tough as hoping for 4.25e/kg

    well we're going to take this offer.... knew we should have shifted them 2wks ago!!!:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    49801 wrote: »
    well we're going to take this offer.... knew we should have shifted them 2wks ago!!!:eek:

    some hold tough:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    some hold tough:D

    more to do with needing the pen for other animals as have to bring hiefers back in than price considerations really.
    I am happy so long as we get as good of a price as every1 else gets and there is a respectable margin. and those were prices quoted in the farming independant yesterday

    we worked out a couple of years ago that cattle don't pay unless price is over 3.60e but this is the first period we've gotten that:eek:.

    every fellow likes to maximise what he gets paid but i think you have to have a price that you happy with too.

    i do find it extremely odd that last weeks prices are still not available on dept or icsa sites or any other online media:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    If you need the pens you have to shift them there can be a big difference between the price for 5 and the price for 20. if quality assured you should get a base of 3.20 +6cent quality assurance so R-= will be 4.26 and 0+ will be 4.14 look for the base prices if you have good quality contintal heifers


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    sorry that should be a base of 4.20


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭dealerman


    price of beef under pressure this week factorys upto all there old tricks again:mad::mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭MfMan


    dealerman wrote: »
    price of beef under pressure this week factorys upto all there old tricks again:mad::mad:
    Aye, was quoted €3.95 - €4 here in de west.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    MfMan wrote: »
    Aye, was quoted €3.95 - €4 here in de west.

    glad we killed last of our factory animals last week at a base of 4.16 incl bord bia


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭dealerman


    factories pulling the price of cattle with one shower of rain

    fookers :mad::mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭huey1975


    dealerman wrote: »
    factories pulling the price of cattle with one shower of rain

    fookers :mad::mad:
    It has rained here for the last five weeks. I got 4.25/kg for r grade bullocks yesterday and I thought it wasn't too bad. Have they pulled the price much for next week?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    huey1975 wrote: »
    It has rained here for the last five weeks. I got 4.25/kg for r grade bullocks yesterday and I thought it wasn't too bad. Have they pulled the price much for next week?

    Was that the base or did it include the QA and I doubt if they will be able to pull prices by much in the next few months


  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭dasheriff


    They have pulled a nice bit over the last few days,but im still doing alrit for O grading cows 600lb +..


  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭huey1975


    huey1975 wrote: »
    It has rained here for the last five weeks. I got 4.25/kg for r grade bullocks yesterday and I thought it wasn't too bad. Have they pulled the price much for next week?

    Was that the base or did it include the QA and I doubt if they will be able to pull prices by much in the next few months
    They were over 30 months and it was a flat 425 for Rs and 430 for Us. He gave me the option of 420 on the grid but I took the flat price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,054 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    4.05 for O's and 4.25 for R bullocks in Moyvally


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭dealerman


    down south abp and dawn qoteing 4.05 base for blks 4.15 for heifers
    sold a load last week 4.35 for heifers and 4.20 for blks should have gone with more last week


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    dead prices have to fall, beef is very hard sold, may not be 20c a kilo though as yet, not killing until wednesday/thursday this week so don't know the price. should have gotten more animals out for slaughter last week but had to go away socializing :D:D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    dead prices have to fall, beef is very hard sold, may not be 20c a kilo though as yet, not killing until wednesday/thursday this week so don't know the price. should have gotten more animals out for slaughter last week but had to go away socializing :D:D.

    Heard a factory manager/meatsale rep complaining that it was very serious as they were losing money made the point to him it was no issue back through the years when farmers were losing money.

    The price factory cattle dose not have to fall the reality is that the huge margins that supermakets and factorys traditionally had has to be eaten into. also if Supermarkets have to increase prices on beef to the consumer then this has to happen.

    Look at the price of lamb we were told three years ago it was not sustainable now we are into our third year were prices go from 4.5-6euros/kg with the price for most of the year hovering around the 5 mark.

    The reality is that at the present price it is still unenomical to rear a animal from birth to finish especially with the price of ration gone up by 40% over the last 3 years and will be more expensive next winter. Fertlizer by about the same and agri diesel over 90 cent/litre on average whick will force a lot of contractors out of buisness over the next few years.

    Bob this is the story the factories like to put out and expect us to swallow. They were very bullish last spring when they managed to control prices fom February-April they were talking about a beef price of 3.50 for the summer. Now because farmers are under pressure they are trying to get a good pull on price it will only last a few weeks especiall if the bloody weather picks up.

    F##K UM if the shoe was on the other foot they would screw us to the wall as they will next year but for now we need to hold tough


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Heard a factory manager/meatsale rep complaining that it was very serious as they were losing money made the point to him it was no issue back through the years when farmers were losing money.

    The price factory cattle dose not have to fall the reality is that the huge margins that supermakets and factorys traditionally had has to be eaten into. also if Supermarkets have to increase prices on beef to the consumer then this has to happen.

    Look at the price of lamb we were told three years ago it was not sustainable now we are into our third year were prices go from 4.5-6euros/kg with the price for most of the year hovering around the 5 mark.

    The reality is that at the present price it is still unenomical to rear a animal from birth to finish especially with the price of ration gone up by 40% over the last 3 years and will be more expensive next winter. Fertlizer by about the same and agri diesel over 90 cent/litre on average whick will force a lot of contractors out of buisness over the next few years.

    Bob this is the story the factories like to put out and expect us to swallow. They were very bullish last spring when they managed to control prices fom February-April they were talking about a beef price of 3.50 for the summer. Now because farmers are under pressure they are trying to get a good pull on price it will only last a few weeks especiall if the bloody weather picks up.

    F##K UM if the shoe was on the other foot they would screw us to the wall as they will next year but for now we need to hold tough

    Very few if any farmers would survive on the margin that beef factories make. Only they operate such an efficient business with high turnover and low margin that leaves them money. Efficiencies at farm level are a joke, looking at beef farming as a whole such massive savings could be made. Look inwards and hope things are good outwards as you can affect that. This price fall has being coming for a few weeks now. get used to it.

    3.75 is still my view for the back end, as I think market conditions will dictate such a price.


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