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12-05-2021 4:08pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'm aware of the history thanks. There is no way that the german troops in finland could be said to be occupying the country. would you say that the 1.6m US troops in Britain duriing WW2 were occupying the country?

They were certainly occupying the minds of lots of Tommies. Overpaid, and Over sexed. :pac:

Skylinehead · 12-05-2021 4:10pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'm aware of the history thanks. There is no way that the german troops in finland could be said to be occupying the country. would you say that the 1.6m US troops in Britain duriing WW2 were occupying the country?

No, as Britain and the US weren't at war. Finland and Germany were in 1944, so that's a fairly poor example.

The Germans, while withdrawing through Finland once the Finns started pushing them out, were using scorched earth tactics and demolished a serious amount of infrastructure in Lapland. They fought in Finland against Finland. How, in any sense of the word, were they not occupying that land?

ohnonotgmail · 12-05-2021 4:13pm

Skylinehead wrote: »

No, as Britain and the US weren't at war. Finland and Germany were in 1944, so that's a fairly poor example.

The Germans, while withdrawing through Finland once the Finns started pushing them out, were using scorched earth tactics and demolished a serious amount of infrastructure in Lapland. They fought in Finland against Finland. How, in any sense of the word, were they not occupying that land?

running for your lives through a country is not occupying it. anyway, best to leave it there.

Skylinehead · 12-05-2021 4:14pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

running for your lives through a country is not occupying it. anyway, best to leave it there.

Fair enough. Not an invasion, I'd agree there, but they were accidental occupiers until they were ran out of the place

Brian? · 12-05-2021 5:19pm

Flying Abruptly wrote: »

Putain is considered stronger than merde, combining them is putain de merde, which is saved for the worst case scenarios

The kid friendly versions of these you often hear are puree (=mashed potatoes) or mercedi (=wedensday).

Interestingly in Quebec they done use Putain or merde, they use tabarnac. The swear words are religious paraphernalia

New Home · 14-05-2021 2:07pm

Flying Abruptly wrote: »

Putain is considered stronger than merde, combining them is putain de merde, which is saved for the worst case scenarios

The kid friendly versions of these you often hear are puree (=mashed potatoes) or mercedi (=wedensday).

A bit like "sugar" is used here instead of "sh!t". I love the idea of purée and mercredi, they're brilliant!:D

magicbastarder · 14-05-2021 2:14pm

mercredi is amusingly like sanitising one of ours to 'see you next tuesday'

Flying Abruptly · 14-05-2021 2:38pm

I can't think of the sanitised version of con or connasse (see you next tuesday) in french, they just use that one!:D

Keeping on the french theme:
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Third one can also be:

ohnonotgmail · 14-05-2021 3:05pm

I wasn't aware of the pain au chocolat vs chocolatine controversy. They seem to take it very seriously in Bordeaux where chocolatine predominates

https://twitter.com/SultanPopi/status/888016273237585921

14-05-2021 3:29pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I wasn't aware of the pain au chocolat vs chocolatine controversy. They seem to take it very seriously in Bordeaux where chocolatine predominates

https://twitter.com/SultanPopi/status/888016273237585921

Brilliant. That could feature in the YLYL thread.

Flying Abruptly · 14-05-2021 7:38pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I wasn't aware of the pain au chocolat vs chocolatine controversy. They seem to take it very seriously in Bordeaux where chocolatine predominates

You will be refused service around Toulouse if you ask for a pain au chocolat!

Mullinabreena · 14-05-2021 10:43pm

Map of Ireland showing the distribution of the
records of the Archaeological Survey of Ireland.

https://maps.archaeology.ie/HistoricEnvironment/

ohnonotgmail · 14-05-2021 10:47pm

why so few in the west and donegal?

magicbastarder · 14-05-2021 10:50pm

wicklow mountains are also sparse. probably boggy uplands.

silliussoddius · 14-05-2021 10:54pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

wicklow mountains are also sparse. probably boggy uplands.

Yeah. And maybe because it’s Donegal.
in the case of Donegal there is more “through the gap” in the East where it isn’t as rugged.

magicbastarder · 14-05-2021 10:59pm

yep, worth considering that the archaeology which is known depends on several factors; where people actually lived and worked, and whether the artefacts of that were likely to survive; whether they're accessible, etc.

forgottenhills · 15-05-2021 12:49am

magicbastarder wrote: »

yep, worth considering that the archaeology which is known depends on several factors; where people actually lived and worked, and whether the artefacts of that were likely to survive; whether they're accessible, etc.

Yes definitely where people lived. If you zoom in on the map many of those red dots are ring forts. Ring forts seem to be typically situated on small hills but not mountains so I'd imagine people were rounding up their precious cattle and minding them at night from all these cattle raids mentioned in the annals etc. Cattle need grass and you also need to be able to find them and round them up easily, neither are possible in areas of high mountains.

Mullinabreena · 15-05-2021 9:28am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why so few in the west and donegal?

With the exception of uplands and bog I find it interesting how the west of the compares to the east. It would appear that the west has more archaeological survey sites. The east generally would have better land so historically more settlements? Its also more developed so you would imagine more sites would be discovered.

Professor Moriarty · 15-05-2021 9:32am

forgottenhills wrote: »

Yes definitely where people lived. If you zoom in on the map many of those red dots are ring forts. Ring forts seem to be typically situated on small hills but not mountains so I'd imagine people were rounding up their precious cattle and minding them at night from all these cattle raids mentioned in the annals etc. Cattle need grass and you also need to be able to find them and round them up easily, neither are possible in areas of high mountains.

Post content = poster username.

KevRossi · 15-05-2021 10:37am

In other news the OPW have opened all sites in Ireland free of charge until the end of the year.

There's a map here, so no excuses for not finding out a bit more about our history. I had the OPW annual card a couple of times and it's excellent value.

https://heritageireland.ie/visit/places-to-visit/?map=true

RedRochey · 15-05-2021 10:47am

Irelands most remote location, "A boggy hillside in the Nephin Beg mountains in Mayo. This point is just under 8km from the nearest road." https://goo.gl/maps/UM1RGwspJYv

https://threerockbooks.com/irelands-remote-point/

Bogwoppit · 15-05-2021 11:14am

RedRochey wrote: »

Irelands most remote location, "A boggy hillside in the Nephin Beg mountains in Mayo. This point is just under 8km from the nearest road." https://goo.gl/maps/UM1RGwspJYv

https://threerockbooks.com/irelands-remote-point/

I’ve been up there, it’s a pretty nice spot.

Westernyelp · 15-05-2021 11:32am

Bogwoppit wrote:

Iâ€™ve been up there, itâ€™s a pretty nice spot.

Me too. Bangor trailvand surrounds is a great walk if you ever get the chance

Padre_Pio · 18-05-2021 1:19pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

yep, worth considering that the archaeology which is known depends on several factors; where people actually lived and worked, and whether the artefacts of that were likely to survive; whether they're accessible, etc.

Also where people are living now, areas of continuous habitation repeatedly destroy older settlements.
Also construction turns up many sites. Areas that are largely isolated now have less modern construction and surveys.

Seems to be some lines that correspond with motorways, but I expected to see more around the M1/M7/M8

Victor · 19-05-2021 1:01pm

Roads in west Dublin known as Cloverhill Road.

ohnonotgmail · 19-05-2021 1:10pm

Victor wrote: »

Roads in west Dublin known as Cloverhill Road.

© OpenStreetMap contributors

One of them is CloverHill Road. The other is Clover Hill Road.

Victor · 19-05-2021 1:31pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

One of them is CloverHill Road. The other is Clover Hill Road.

Eircode, Ordnance Survey and both councils seem to call both of them Cloverhill Road.

ohnonotgmail · 19-05-2021 1:41pm

Victor wrote: »

Eircode, Ordnance Survey and both councils seem to call both of them Cloverhill Road.

weird, google maps has it as Clover Hill Road.

Seth Brundle · 19-05-2021 2:04pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

weird, google maps has it as Clover Hill Road.

It also has part of one of them as Station Rd

Victor · 19-05-2021 3:05pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

It also has part of one of them as Station Rd

Cloverhill Road is the road according to the council, Station Road is the address of the houses. Unfortunately, this is common enough in Ireland.

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