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guy fawkes night

  • 17-10-2019 2:48pm
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    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 37,754 ✭✭✭✭


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night

    How come we dont celebrate it here ???

    Jesus if the ejjit didnt get himself caught he could of really changed the state of affairs in history


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  • #2
    brainfreeze
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭brainfreeze


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night

    How come we dont celebrate it here ???

    Jesus if the ejjit didnt get himself caught he could of really changed the state of affairs in history

    It's no longer celebrated in Ireland as Ireland left the United Kingdom, and it was historically seen as an anti-catholic celebration. A celebration of Guy Fawkes failure to turn the UK into a Catholic Theocracy. Although it is now quite secular in the UK and celebrated by everyone as there isn't any real anti-catholic malice in the celebrations in modern times.

    Instead the Irish let out their fireworks and bombfires on Halloween instead of the 5th of November.


  • #3
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    How come we dont celebrate it here?
    We're not English.


  • #4
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    I couldn’t give two fawkes


  • #5
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night

    How come we dont celebrate it here ???

    Jesus if the ejjit didnt get himself caught he could of really changed the state of affairs in history

    We are catholic, we are not British.

    Why don't we celebrate Bastille day?


  • #6
    tdf7187
    Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    I'm glad Halloween has become more popular in the UK and Guy Fawkes less soon. The latter basically celebrates the burning of a Catholic, that's what its about. Some English people incorrectly think Halloween is an American festival, of course it isn't.


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  • #7
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,355 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    I'm glad Halloween has become more popular in the UK and Guy Fawkes less soon. The latter basically celebrates the burning of a Catholic, that's what its about. Some English people incorrectly think Halloween is an American festival, of course it isn't.

    I think you'll find he was hung, drawn and quartered rather than burned.


  • #8
    MrAbyss
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭MrAbyss


    He was a religious fanatic. The Gunpowder Plot was basically a Catholic Jihad.

    Dev gave us that for free.


  • #9
    Your Face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭Your Face


    MrAbyss wrote: »
    He was a religious fanatic. The Gunpowder Plot was basically a Catholic Jihad.

    Dev gave us that for free.


    Dev gave the people want they wanted.


  • #10
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Michael Myers has escaped!


  • #11
    MrAbyss
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭MrAbyss


    Your Face wrote: »
    Dev gave the people want they wanted.




    I am pretty sure the Jesuits in Maynooth were the end of that supply chain.


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  • #12
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Edgware wrote: »
    Michael Myers has escaped!

    You sure it wasn’t bukkake face from slipknot


  • #13
    topper75
    Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Your Face wrote: »
    Dev gave the people want they wanted.

    Was by no means a one-man op either.

    The greater part of the 1916 leadership were RC extremists. A cursory glance at letters they wrote (read them yourself in Kilmainham or Collins barracks) will tell you that.

    There was another contingent of that leadership who were socialist extremists: Connolly and his Citizen's Army.

    Secular Ireland is not ready to face down the extremist origins of the state. And may not be for a while yet.


  • #14
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 19,921 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    PTH2009 wrote: »

    How come we dont celebrate it here ???

    The English don’t celebrate Guy Fawkes. They celebrate him being caught and killed.

    The funny thing is when English people think about it, loads of them are on his side. Especially when they see how corrupt parliament was back then.

    But it’s British history so I wouldn’t be bothered to celebrate it one way or the other.


  • #15
    MOH
    Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    We are catholic, we are not British.

    Why don't we celebrate Bastille day?

    No we aren't


  • #16
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    brainfreeze wrote: »
    Instead the Irish let out their fireworks and bombfires on Halloween instead of the 5th of November.
    And the 30th of April , 23rd of June , 12th of July and the 15th of August.


  • #17
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    MOH wrote: »
    No we aren't

    OK. Have a look at the census and a history book and get back to me.


  • #18
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    OK. Have a look at the census and a history book and get back to me.

    Ask most of those on the census what the main difference between catholicism and protestantism is and you'll see how catholic they are.


  • #19
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    We are catholic, we are not British.

    A lot of bouncy castle Catholics.


  • #20
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    A lot of bouncy castle Catholics.
    he didnt say good catholics


  • #21
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Your Face wrote: »
    Dev gave the people want they wanted.

    You can bet that had poster boy Michael Collins lived he would have been more than happy with a Roman Catholic dominated state.
    Home Rule was Rome Rule.


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  • #22
    MOH
    Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    OK. Have a look at the census and a history book and get back to me.

    OK. Have done. We aren't Catholic.


  • #23
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 37,754 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://youtu.be/h1b2w4GxBU0


  • #24
    buried
    Registered Users Posts: 9,674 ✭✭✭buried


    Samhain (Halloween) is a lunar festival, you celebrate it at the turn of the new moon, it's the Celtic new year festival and this year runs from around the 28th October to the 12th November, around that anyways, so everyone has a huge window to celebrate whatever they like, Guy Fawkes, horror films, pumpkins, whatever, just try to remember and celebrate your ancestors what definitely did come before you. That's what Samhain is, was, and will ever be, and our island is the home of it. It is a great thing.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • #25
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    You can bet that had poster boy Michael Collins lived he would have been more than happy with a Roman Catholic dominated state.
    Home Rule was Rome Rule.

    That was up to the population of Ireland. In any case Ireland was not really an outlier by the standards of the time. The U.K. chemically castrated thousands of homosexuals (who would have been safer in Ireland and most catholic countries).

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/uk-pardon-thousands-gay-men-under-turing-s-law-n670071


  • #26
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    buried wrote: »
    Samhain (Halloween) is a lunar festival, you celebrate it at the turn of the new moon, it's the Celtic new year festival and this year runs from around the 28th October to the 12th November, around that anyways, so everyone has a huge window to celebrate whatever they like, Guy Fawkes, horror films, pumpkins, whatever, just try to remember and celebrate your ancestors what definitely did come before you. That's what Samhain is, was, and will ever be, and our island is the home of it. It is a great thing.

    A pity Imbolg, Belataine and Lughnasa are'nt as popular.


  • #27
    branie2
    Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    It's more of an English thing


  • #28
    buried
    Registered Users Posts: 9,674 ✭✭✭buried


    Ipso wrote: »
    A pity Imbolg, Belataine and Lughnasa are'nt as popular.

    This is true, I will always try to celebrate those other dates too, especially Imbolg, it's another realtime turn of year event, the evenings do become evident they are becoming longer at that time.
    It's just that Samhain, our festival of new year and new beginnings, comes at this time when all the trees, all the indigenous plants, their leaves turn this fiery dramatic colour from green to yellow to red to then the fall to the ground to start the whole cycle and feed the plants again. It's so cool. And can still be seen to this day. It's no wonder humans have associated this time of year to those that have gone before.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • #29
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    You can bet that had poster boy Michael Collins lived he would have been more than happy with a Roman Catholic dominated state.
    Home Rule was Rome Rule.

    He would have kissed the Bishop's ring


  • #30
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Ipso wrote: »
    Ask most of those on the census what the main difference between catholicism and protestantism is and you'll see how catholic they are.

    You don't have to understand anything about Catholicism to be a catholic. There is no exam.


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  • #31
    [Deleted User]
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    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    You don't have to understand anything about Catholicism to be a catholic. There is no exam.

    so in order to be Irish, you have to be a catholic?


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