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Attic clean

  • 23-04-2018 1:32am
    #1
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭


    Does anyone know of a company to clean an attic?


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  • #2
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,980 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Are you talking about moving items out of a attic or getting up into a attic and hoovering/wiping it?


  • #3
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭April1


    Most cleaning and hoovering. Had a rat in the attic and the pest control people spray some stuff and there are a few piles of droppings too.


  • #4
    L1011
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    That would be a hyper-specialist service to offer. An attic insulation firm would likely be the best people to work with potentially damaged insulation - normal cleaners wouldn't go near it.

    You can't really hoover around fibreglass insulation because there'd be a large pile of fibreglass in the hoover pipe...


  • #5
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭April1


    Does it cost much to re insulate an standard small attic? Thanks


  • #6
    L1011
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    April1 wrote: »
    Does it cost much to re insulate an standard small attic? Thanks

    Doing it yourself - not at all.

    Paying someone to do it - you basically pay them the cost, their labour, and the entire SEAI grant on top of it. So yes, it costs a stupidly large amount for very little materials and work because grant incentives always backfire.


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  • #7
    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,855 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    April1 wrote: »
    Does it cost much to re insulate an standard small attic? Thanks

    Not much check the DIY stores for deals and buy then. The problem you have is the bio hazard currently in your attic and that will be risky to clean and dispose of DIY.


  • #8
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,499 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    April1 wrote: »
    Does it cost much to re insulate an standard small attic? Thanks

    Sounds like overkill, it's just rat poop and you will have rat/mouse/bat poop in there again soon anyway. Vacuum up the poo yourself and leave it at that.


  • #9
    L1011
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    Del2005 wrote: »
    Not much check the DIY stores for deals and buy then. The problem you have is the bio hazard currently in your attic and that will be risky to clean and dispose of DIY.

    The level of PPE I'd recommend for removing or installing fibreglass insulation should also suffice for dealing with rodent droppings and/or carcasses if there are any. Would need to know the chemicals used in spraying to check the recommended PPE there

    For working you will want a P2 mask/respirator and full body protection - a bunny suit is excessive but I have taped jeans/tracksuit bottoms to socks and hoodie arms to gloves when doing it. Fibreglass is a bitch if you even get one fibre in to your skin let alone what could happen to lungs.

    Masks and gloves cost stupid money in consumer DIY stores - find a more trade oriented store.
    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Vacuum up the poo yourself and leave it at that.

    A vacuum is going to suck up the insulation as I already mentioned...


  • #10
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭April1


    The attic has a load of spaces that are difficult to get to. Yes there is the few piles of rat dropping that we can see. The company that got rid of he rat, put down some antibaterical spray down also. I think the attic would be around 400 sq ft

    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Sounds like overkill, it's just rat poop and you will have rat/mouse/bat poop in there again soon anyway. Vacuum up the poo yourself and leave it at that.


  • #11
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭April1


    Unfortunately I'm going to have to hire someone to do it. I have back problems. There was some anti-bacterial product sprayed down, that we were told is safe.
    What is PPE?
    Fibreglass is a certain worry.
    L1011 wrote: »
    The level of PPE I'd recommend for removing or installing fibreglass insulation should also suffice for dealing with rodent droppings and/or carcasses if there are any. Would need to know the chemicals used in spraying to check the recommended PPE there

    For working you will want a P2 mask/respirator and full body protection - a bunny suit is excessive but I have taped jeans/tracksuit bottoms to socks and hoodie arms to gloves when doing it. Fibreglass is a bitch if you even get one fibre in to your skin let alone what could happen to lungs.

    Masks and gloves cost stupid money in consumer DIY stores - find a more trade oriented store.



    A vacuum is going to suck up the insulation as I already mentioned...


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  • #12
    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,855 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    April1 wrote: »
    Unfortunately I'm going to have to hire someone to do it. I have back problems. There was some anti-bacterial product sprayed down, that we were told is safe.
    What is PPE?
    Fibreglass is a certain worry.

    PPE is Personal Protective Equipment, depending on the task could be a pair of safety glasses to a level A suit

    http://www.dgdeclaration.com/different-hazmat-suit-levels/


  • #13
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,499 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    L1011 wrote: »
    A vacuum is going to suck up the insulation as I already mentioned...

    It's fibreglass, some may get sucked up but why can't you vacuum out droppings?


  • #14
    L1011
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    runawaybishop wrote: »
    It's fibreglass, some may get sucked up but why can't you vacuum out droppings?

    You'll pull the entire mat up. By the time you've pulled it off the vacuum cleaner and put it back down every time you'd have been quicker picking up the droppings by hand


  • #15
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,499 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    L1011 wrote: »
    You'll pull the entire mat up. By the time you've pulled it off the vacuum cleaner and put it back down every time you'd have been quicker picking up the droppings by hand

    Yeah i don't think so but i don't think it really matters that much as the Op has decided to get someone in to do it.


  • #16
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭April1


    Should Rentokil have cleaned up afterwards too? They said they didn't do that? Now left with dropping and Anti-bac stuff still there in the attic.


  • #17
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,980 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Its a attic, your not going to be up there eating your dinner. There is lots of rat and mouse **** under cabinets, floors and behind things that you never see either. It would be cheaper to just get the attic floored over the "dirt".


  • #18
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭April1


    That's an idea/ Might have to look into it. There's is all the standard things everyone has in their attic toys, suitcases etc
    Spoke to an insulation company today that said that its a bio hazzard and he would not send his lads into an attic like that. Also they would never remove the fibroglass, just put other insulation down on top of it.
    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    Its a attic, your not going to be up there eating your dinner. There is lots of rat and mouse **** under cabinets, floors and behind things that you never see either. It would be cheaper to just get the attic floored over the "dirt".


  • #19
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭April1


    How easy is it to clear out old insulation yourself?


  • #20
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,980 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    April1 wrote: »
    How easy is it to clear out old insulation yourself?

    How are you with skin irritation?


  • #21
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭April1


    Okay with it.
    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    How are you with skin irritation?


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  • #22
    L1011
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    April1 wrote: »
    How easy is it to clear out old insulation yourself?

    Quite. I gave instructions on what to wear further up the thread. Basically old clothes that cover everything, gloves, goggles, tape everything to each other.

    This is not the time of year I'd do it - cold weather is better. Attics are stinkingly hot when its warm out and when you're taped in to a hoody its horror time.


  • #23
    April1
    Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭April1


    L1011 wrote: »
    Quite. I gave instructions on what to wear further up the thread. Basically old clothes that cover everything, gloves, goggles, tape everything to each other.

    This is not the time of year I'd do it - cold weather is better. Attics are stinkingly hot when its warm out and when you're taped in to a hoody its horror time.
    I agree not the time of year to do it, yet it really needs to be done.


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