New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

Moghead wrote: »

If it goes full on like Fox News, with their own version of shows like Fox & Friends, I wonder how they will frame issues and politics in Northern Ireland? Will the likes of Sammy Wilson be regular guests? How would those on this thread looking forward to this channel feel if there is an anti Nationalist bias?

francois wrote: »

In other words a bit of confirmation bias. The fact that both the left and right constantly whinge about the BBC means they're doing something right.

Melanchthon wrote: »

There is evidence of this though. Take this photo last year of one of the "mostly peaceful" protests outside Downing Street.



When the BBC ran it they cropped out the guy trying to bash the cop on the head with that piece of wood, they were forced to put the original back up when people noticed what they had done (original was like a Reuters/AP photo or similar so they made a deliberate call to frame the picture in a way that just looked like a cop shoving protestors pushing against him)

pixelburp wrote: »

"GB News" feels a bit insular. To the point I had to confirm it wasn't the name of the news channel in V for Vendetta :pac: Without seeing its content it sounds like it's aiming for a regression of UK's perspective rather than an outward one. We'll see I guess .

A diversity of opinion in news media is a good thing. However I'd question how well those championing the "anti-woke" narrative know of Andrew Neil because he's not what I'd call an honest merchant either. Not an extremist but still far from European centrism. Objectivity in news is a white elephant at the best of times but there's nothing in Neil's ideology that tells me he'll occupy any apparently barren middle ground (though annoying Ben Shapiro did endear him to me a little lol)

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Thats fair enough. I'm sure the bbc probably edit stuff for all sorts of reasons, but the point i was making is that i dont think it matters to many on the right whether the evidence exists or not. I mean brexit isnt strictly a left/right divide but we spent 4/5 years listening to allegations of bbc brexit bias from figures on the right without any basis in fact, which never really mattered as their intended base either believed it or it just confirmed their existing belief.

Sure, the left complain about coverage but i would point to how corbyn, who had more cause than most, never threatened to boycott them and even turned up to face a pounding from Andrew Neill. In contrast, Johnson not just dodged neil but the tories subsequently boycotted Newsnight on the flimsy pretext Lewis Goodall, chief reporter, is pro labour. All that seeds and entrenches the bogus notion of an ingrained bbc bias which is what it is carefully designed to do.

Also, i think it would be useful to distinguish what we mean by leftism here and the liberalism people are referring to. The two may overlap a good deal, but they are not quite the same thing. I've no doubt that a lot of bbc staff hate the left, viscerally in the case of Kuennsberg, Neil etc, like the majority of the uk msm.

Joe_ Public wrote: »

I would say there may well be a grain of truth to that statement.

However, i think in a very general way, there is a major difference in the nature of those complaints. Broadly, when leftist elements whinge about bbc coverage, it is in relation to something that happened, whether johnson footage being edited, sunak being portrayed as superman, Kuennsberg tweeting lies about a tory being assaulted or some such etc. Not always, but its usually based on SPECIFIC incidents.

Whereas, the right. The bbc is a hotbed of lefty woke liberals. Completely biased. Poor old nige (near record appearances on QT bedamned) and his loyal army of straight shooters can never get a look in. The nasty bbc establishment is all agin them. Doesnt matter if its actually true or not. Just shout it out and keep shouting it, in capital letters, and enough gullible people will start to believe it. Its the culture wars and they know how to play it.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Sky News just grew up that's all.