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plurals..

  • 25-02-2004 11:08pm
    #1
    David-[RLD]-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭


    how do you know which ending to use for plurals in Irish like like gardaí, riallacha, cailíní etc

    is it just a guessing game if you're one of the many people who aren't fortunate enough to be fluent such as myself?

    David :)


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  • #2
    Gleanndún
    Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭Gleanndún


    unfortunately, pretty much yea. there are declensions n stuff, like the fourth which usually adds an í to form plural, e.g. gardaí, but there are so many irregulars, and even just so many kinds of declension conjugations that you just have to memorize most of them. strong plurals r the 1s that suck, theyre kindof irregular: they erase the rules of the declension and replace them with their own. ut at least all the plurals fit into patterns, the memorization bit is just remember which 1 2 use on which noun!;)


  • #3
    simu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    B'fhéidir go mbeadh siad seo cabharthach/These might be helpful:


    Na hainmfhocail is mó a úsáidtear sa Ghaeilge san uimhir uatha agus san uimhir iolra/ the most commonly used nouns in Irish in singular and plural forms:

    http://mbm.8m.com/irish/declination.htm

    Seo eolas ar na díochlaonta má tá an choráiste agat tabhairt faoi!/Here's info on the díochlaonta (different categories of nouns) if you're brave!

    http://www.ucc.ie/acad/mi/cursai/gramadachnua/grnua2.html

    An rud is fearr ná an fhoirm iolra a fhoghlaim i dteannta leis an bhfoirm uatha agus taithí a fháil ar na fuaimeanna - tiocfaidh siad chugat go nádurtha tar éis tamaill! / The best thing is to learn the plural form at the same time as the singular form and get used to how they sound - it will come to you naturally after some time!


  • #4
    Gleanndún
    Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭Gleanndún


    heres another useful site, a small dictionary of irish declenations and conjugations: An Foclóir Beag
    I use it all the time, very helpful! ^_^


  • #5
    David-[RLD]-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭David-[RLD]-


    go raibh míle maith agat :D

    i thought i'd never learn them. i don't think they taught us that kind of stuff in school.

    although maybe i wasn't paying attention. never really liked irish until this year


  • #6
    Gleanndún
    Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭Gleanndún


    lol, well judging by wut pp say bout the meathods 4 teaching irish, but then again judging by ur apparent similarity in personality 2 me, i guess it could go either way, huh?:p


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  • #7
    luckat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    I've been trying to persuade a programmer friend to code up an automatic dictionary that would give plurals, genitives, datives for nouns, and the various forms for verbs. Shouldn't be too hard; it'd be a nice website to do, actually.


  • #8
    simu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    I've been trying to persuade a programmer friend to code up an automatic dictionary that would give plurals, genitives, datives for nouns, and the various forms for verbs. Shouldn't be too hard; it'd be a nice website to do, actually.

    Bheadh sésin ar fheabhas! That would be great!


  • #9
    Suaimhneach
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 4,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Suaimhneach


    Cinnte beidh sé, tá fios agam usaidfidh mé é!

    Sure it'd be, I know I'd use it!


  • #10
    Gleanndún
    Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭Gleanndún


    well if you wanna save yourself a lot of trouble, go to the above site that i posted, cuz thats what it is! *sigh* no one ever listens to me~_~ you might wanna talk to its creators n see if theyd be willing to let you incoporate their precompiled declination/conjugation dictionary into yours. just, you know, tryin to save you guys some trouble^^


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