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    #122
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    washman3 wrote: »
    Did Bertie not tell the people who forecast the crash to go commit suicide.?

    He did indeed, an appalling man he was to, Ireland's worst ever Taoiseach. The coward even abandoned ship once he saw the writing on the wall, an utterly shameful legacy.

    Did Mary Lou call Slab Murphy a "good republican" and "a very nice man"?


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    #123
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,437 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    MintyMagnum wrote: »
    Just heard Pearse Doherty suggesting this on Rte1 - thoughts..

    If Sinn Fein win the most seats then it's very much a possibility but if they aren't the largest party then no.


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    #124
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,796 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I can understand Pearse Doherty getting giddy today, but SF are going to be the third largest party so there's no question of her being Taoiseach.

    That said, they have a large mandate so they may figure in Government. However, to properly tackle the Health Service issues, they are going to have to move on two big points.

    They are going to have to pay medical staff more, in line with the world market for such professionals. And more importantly, they are going to have to take the Unions on head on. Not just take them on but shatter them.

    The very best of luck to any leftist party with that.


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    #125
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    washman3 wrote: »
    We have fairly taken the piss ourselves TBF,
    Charlie
    Bertie
    Enda
    Leo



    Start at your own door....;)

    Charlie is going to be made look like Machiavelli compared to Mary Lou if she gets the reins of power. SF are past masters of telling the people what the want to hear. It's the benefit of being in opposition for so long.

    What strings the Ard Chomhairle pull to get Mary Lou to dance to their tune is anybody's business. Do you think they believe in something as anti socialist as Capitalism? :pac:


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    #126
    CiarraiAbu2
    Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭CiarraiAbu2


    Can't see Sinn Fein wanting to go into power, they would be happy out consolidating their position and leave FG prop FF.


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    #127
    Icepick
    Registered Users Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭Icepick


    Like they would want the responsibility.


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    #128
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    Co-living will be added in as well, each bed will likely bed counted as a 'unit'.

    100k figure is such nonsense in fairness anyway and I wonder who SF proposes to build all these homes considering they seem to hate developers and banks (except for the one up north that was robbed in 2004, but that had nothing to so with SF nor the IRA of course.....)
    It's not as bad as the 160 million for a national retrofitting programme, it wouldn't do a country town.
    This "surge" will come and go as fast as the poncho, beret, or any other trend.
    It would be grand if they were just naive or deluded though but I'd be worried for peace throughout Ireland and the negative influence they could have on post Brexit relation's with the UK.
    I'd be especially worried if I was in the Gardaí.


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    #129
    washman3
    Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    I agree, no question.

    Interesting though that you won't acknowlege Mary Lou's praise of Slab Murphy.

    Do you deny she said them or would you rather forget her comments?


    I know for sure that Adams referred to him as a good Republican.
    Also distinctly remember Mary Lou refer to him as something likewise, not certain if she used a 'nice man' term. But you sound really certain so i will take your word for it.
    Most of us down here will never understand or would want to know what a 'good republican' is. Certainly the vast majority of people that voted SF yesterday would give 2 hoots about Slab Murphy. They do though, hate to be treated like children and taken for mugs, like successive FF and FG governments have done for decades.
    Maybe people are finally waking up and seeking change.
    And if it's any consolation to you, i did not vote SF yesterday.


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    #130
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I can understand Pearse Doherty getting giddy today, but SF are going to be the third largest party so there's no question of her being Taoiseach.

    That said, they have a large mandate so they may figure in Government. However, to properly tackle the Health Service issues, they are going to have to move on two big points.

    They are going to have to pay medical staff more, in line with the world market for such professionals. And more importantly, they are going to have to take the Unions on head on. Not just take them on but shatter them.

    The very best of luck to any leftist party with that.
    I would suggest Foreign Affairs for Mary Lou, starting with a trip to China..


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    #131
    [Deleted User]
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    If Sinn Fein win the most seats then it's very much a possibility but if they aren't the largest party then no.

    If all the independents and others come on board, we’ll have an answer to all our problems. Let’s see how well they manage.


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    #132
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,437 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If all the independents and others come on board, we’ll have an answer to all our problems. Let’s see how well they manage.

    These words are the most important ones in your post. I mean I think this evening will make the lay of the land.


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    #133
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    washman3 wrote: »
    I know for sure that Adams referred to him as a good Republican.
    Also distinctly remember Mary Lou refer to him as something likewise, not certain if she used a 'nice man' term. But you sound really certain so i will take your word for it.
    Most of us down here will never understand or would want to know what a 'good republican' is. Certainly the vast majority of people that voted SF yesterday would give 2 hoots about Slab Murphy. They do though, hate to be treated like children and taken for mugs, like successive FF and FG governments have done for decades.
    Maybe people are finally waking up and seeking change.
    And if it's any consolation to you, i did not vote SF yesterday.

    Well in fairness SF have promised to deliver 100k homes over the next 5 years even though they seemingly aren't the party of the developer (so not sure who's going to stack the bricks together to fulfil this promise).

    If that's not taking the public for mugs then I don't know what is!!

    If it's any consolation to you I don't believe the BS of any party but SF are the lowest of the low given their murky connections.


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    #134
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Toireasa Ferris taking on an entire panel of FF/FG single handled over on TG4, well able for 'em too.


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    #135
    Eircom_Sucks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Eircom_Sucks


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Will she not be too busy building 100,000 public homes in 5 years?

    Cos unless she grabs a shovel herself, along with everyone else, how the **** is that particular promise going to happen?

    Spoiler alert

    They never back up their promises so it will never happen , so glad i never vote


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    #136
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    It's not as bad as the 160 million for a national retrofitting programme, it wouldn't do a country town.
    This "surge" will come and go as fast as the poncho, beret, or any other trend.
    It would be grand if they were just naive or deluded though but I'd be worried for peace throughout Ireland and the negative influence they could have on post Brexit relation's with the UK.
    I'd be especially worried if I was in the Gardaí.

    Yes their dark connections are a worry, and the way people have just blanked their love for the likes of Slab Murphy is disheartening.

    But the people have spoken, they want the likes of Slab acting in the background, so the bed is made, we may sleep in it now.


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    #137
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Huntergonzo wrote: »
    Yes their dark connections are a worry, and the way people have just blanked their love for the likes of Slab Murphy is disheartening.

    But the people have spoken, they want the likes of Slab acting in the background, so the bed is made, we may sleep in it now.

    75 percent of people had enough sense and didn't vote for them


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    #138
    handlemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    SF will have to spend and spend to do what they promised. In order to do that debt have to go up ie the public will be borrowing alot more or taxes go up. Tax wise the populist 'tax the rich ' is not going to pay for anything.. it's the middle class that pay the majority of tax...


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    #139
    kingbhome
    Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭kingbhome


    washman3 wrote: »
    I know for sure that Adams referred to him as a good Republican.
    Also distinctly remember Mary Lou refer to him as something likewise, not certain if she used a 'nice man' term. But you sound really certain so i will take your word for it.
    Most of us down here will never understand or would want to know what a 'good republican' is. Certainly the vast majority of people that voted SF yesterday would give 2 hoots about Slab Murphy. They do though, hate to be treated like children and taken for mugs, like successive FF and FG governments have done for decades.
    Maybe people are finally waking up and seeking change.
    And if it's any consolation to you, i did not vote SF yesterday.



    A good republican is someone who took the fight right to the wire with the Brits, never gave up then sat down and talked a good peace deal for the country which was a stepping stone to a United Ireland. This is what a good republican is!


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    #140
    astrofool
    Registered Users Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    handlemaster wrote: »
    SF will have to spend and spend to do what they promised. In order to do that debt have to go up ie the public will be borrowing alot more or taxes go up. Tax wise the populist 'tax the rich ' is not going to pay for anything.. it's the middle class that pay the majority of tax...

    You get about 2-3 years out of it, before the money runs out and debt piles up too high. There will be lots of houses completed this year that started 2-3 years ago, the next government will take credit for that, even though it's nothing to do with them, and get a surge, then, corporation tax receipts will level off, and we'll be back where we were in 2009 with a narrow tax base and out of control public spending (and not on infrastructure, but on day to day expenses).


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    #141
    signostic
    Registered Users Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭signostic


    If you are of the older generation who worked and saved some monry for your retirement and old age, Sinn Fein will be coming to get a share of it to finance their policies.


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    #142
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    signostic wrote: »
    If you are of the older generation who worked and saved some monry for your retirement and old age, Sinn Fein will be coming to get a share of it to finance their policies.

    Considering Fiona Foyle spent the pension paying off the banking collapse that shouldn't be an issue.


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    #143
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    If I were looking for lots of likes on my post, I would put up something derogatory about Mary Lou like a huge number of posters did.

    It's just funny that the demographic posting here are so at odds with the view of a good proportion of the electorate. She's a fine orator and seems like a very decent person on the whole. Comparing Mary Lou to Trump and Johnson makes no sense.

    People didn't have much issue with Varadkar when he was appointed and many of those people turned a full 180° in the time since he's been Taoiseach because of his wheeling, dealing and general disdain for anyone outside of his circle. The difference between him and Mary Lou is that he always intended to exploit the power of his authority to benefit his own end.

    I stand to be corrected if it turns out that I'm wrong, but Mary Lou might actually be one of those rare politicians who tries to do the best they can to genuinely improve life for a lot of people. I have little to lose with that wager; worst-case scenario is that nothing changes and the country is still awfully run. The best outcome would be a fair and supportive society with a safety net for hard-working people who happen to fall through the cracks.

    I just don't know where the hell half my earnings are going at the moment.


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    #144
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    I do not see Seinn Fein with the position of Taoiseach. Next time I say yes, that is if things do not go to crap in this Dail as as a government party they are blamed. However I do not see Mary Lou as it I actually think it will be Doherty. I am not a fan of her she seems very abrasive, sneery and may I say a bit dictatorial. Yes I know other leader of parties are the same and I would be against them for that reason also.

    I do think they need to stand down (well the Irish government side) on the border poll and just let it happen.

    Also in the last 2 party Ard Feish they had a bit on campaigning for a Republican prisoner who was was again imprisoned and fighting for his release and then the following year welcoming back one. I think they need to be very careful if they do this in the future.


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    #145
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    I don't know

    FG has spent 3 years dealing with Brexit while SF have refused to....
    1 take their seats in Westminster
    2 work with DUP in the Assembly


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    #146
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    beggars_bush wrote: »
    I don't know

    FG has spent 3 years dealing with Brexit while SF have refused to....
    1 take their seats in Westminster
    2 work with DUP in the Assembly

    1 Brexit is done
    2. If you think Sein Fein in Westminster given what went on over there would have changed things you are very sorely mistaken


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    #147
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »
    Can't see Sinn Fein wanting to go into power, they would be happy out consolidating their position and leave FG prop FF.
    They are making the right noises after first refusing and then complaining about being ignored in 2016.


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    #148
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    is_that_so wrote: »
    They are making the right noises after first refusing and then complaining about being ignored in 2016.

    I don't think this will work with the increased voters they got this time


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    #149
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,296 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    washman3 wrote: »
    I know for sure that Adams referred to him as a good Republican.
    Also distinctly remember Mary Lou refer to him as something likewise, not certain if she used a 'nice man' term. But you sound really certain so i will take your word for it.
    Most of us down here will never understand or would want to know what a 'good republican' is. Certainly the vast majority of people that voted SF yesterday would give 2 hoots about Slab Murphy. They do though, hate to be treated like children and taken for mugs, like successive FF and FG governments have done for decades.
    Maybe people are finally waking up and seeking change.
    And if it's any consolation to you, i did not vote SF yesterday.


    What you fail to appreciate is that to maintain peace on this island, Sinn Fein have to keep the likes of Slab Murphy on side or else we will have a growing number of dissident republicans.


    Just did a search on Mary Lou and Slab Murphy. This is what I got.

    At a press conference in Dublin, Ms McDonald repeatedly declined to stand over her and Mr Adams’s claim that Murphy is a “good republican”.
    I have told you that Tom Murphy, like everybody else is accountable to the courts,” the Dublin Central TD said.
    “Tom Murphy, like everybody else, has to pay their taxes. That is the position. The courts will deal with that matter. And I have nothing further to say on it.”
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/mary-lou-mcdonald-refuses-to-stand-over-her-claim-slab-murphy-is-a-good-republican-34423764.html


    Worth noting that the Indo seem to have had a bit of a bee in their bonnet over Slab Murphy with most links showing up coming from them!


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    #150
    ednwireland
    Registered Users Posts: 14,286 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    martingriff wrote: »
    1 Brexit is done

    barely started more like

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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    #151
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,685 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    ednwireland wrote: »
    barely started more like

    Brexit itself is done. The real talk of getting a trade deal is now starting and Seinn Fein can do nothing about it in Westmeister. In the NI executive they can decide to stay in the Withdrawal agreement or not


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