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31-12-2019, 14:39   #886
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Well the 99 million things that needed to happen for us to make the playoffs didn't quite fall our way but 7-9 is an improvement (considering we had one of the toughest strength of schedule coming in to the season and a brutal 5 game streak away from home).

Some positives to take from the season:
Josh Jacobs a legit RB1 - 1150yds rushing and 7 TDs despite missing 3 games
Darren Waller - 1145yd TE(2nd in NFL behind Travis Kelce)
Max Crosby - 10 sack season
Hunter Renfrow - looked the part as a slot possesion receiver and made some big plays down the stretch after coming back from injury

All Rookies or first year with the club . Good to see that Richie Incognito was resigned as he played well all year.

Defense and some help at WR is still a major priority to build on. We have some injured players returning (Jonathon Abram, Karl Joseph) and suspension (Burfict - if the league lets him back in) but lots still to be done to make it competitive with the top tier teams. Need to hit on another Draft class and also with the new stadium maybe we can attract some quality free agents.
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01-01-2020, 19:15   #887
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Well the 99 million things that needed to happen for us to make the playoffs didn't quite fall our way but 7-9 is an improvement (considering we had one of the toughest strength of schedule coming in to the season and a brutal 5 game streak away from home).

Some positives to take from the season:
Josh Jacobs a legit RB1 - 1150yds rushing and 7 TDs despite missing 3 games
Darren Waller - 1145yd TE(2nd in NFL behind Travis Kelce)
Max Crosby - 10 sack season
Hunter Renfrow - looked the part as a slot possesion receiver and made some big plays down the stretch after coming back from injury

All Rookies or first year with the club . Good to see that Richie Incognito was resigned as he played well all year.

Defense and some help at WR is still a major priority to build on. We have some injured players returning (Jonathon Abram, Karl Joseph) and suspension (Burfict - if the league lets him back in) but lots still to be done to make it competitive with the top tier teams. Need to hit on another Draft class and also with the new stadium maybe we can attract some quality free agents.
Agreed overall based on what expectations were going into the season it was a positive going in the right direction season. Also agree with you the defense and a genuine number 1 WR remains the priority to improve for next season. Some help on the OL as well. Will be a very interesting off season for the Raiders.
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There couldn't be a worse Super Bowl matchup for Raider fans, a choice between their bitter cross bay rivals who wouldn't share a stadium with them or allow them to play in SF(when that was being considered, while the new LV stadium was being built), coached by the son of long time Raider nemesis Mike Shanahan and their bitterest division rivals, the Kansas City Chiefs, who if they win tonight could be set for years of divisional domination.

So who do you support ?

One interesting stat suggests that Raider fans should become 49er fans for a few hours. In the 54 year history of the Super Bowl, only three quarterbacks have come back to win a Super Bowl after losing in their first Super Bowl appearance. The three successful quarterbacks were Len Dawson(Chiefs), who lost Super Bowl I and won Super Bowl IV, Bob Griese who lost Super Bowl VI, but won Super Bowl VII and VIII and John Elway, who lost three Super Bowls before winning two.

In the Super Bowl era, Fran Tarkenton, Craig Morton and Jim Kelly are the only other QBs to even reach another Super Bowl after losing in their first one.

So history suggests that if Patrick Mahomes loses tonight, then he maybe he might never win one. The Chiefs may be set up for success now, but things change quickly and Mahomes is still on a low cost rookie contract and when that expires it will be much harder to assemble a competitive team around him.

Teams that lose a Super Bowl often struggle afterwards, so maybe thats the best we can hope for, as we build towards making a playoff run ourselves.
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Anyone else tired of the media constantly looking to have Carr traded? I mean I know this time of the season is quiet but its getting ridiculous, the amount of "Carr" related posts/Tweets/Articles that are constantly written.
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Anyone else tired of the media constantly looking to have Carr traded? I mean I know this time of the season is quiet but its getting ridiculous, the amount of "Carr" related posts/Tweets/Articles that are constantly written.
I’m tuning out of the off season for once. Have said it before that Carr is not our biggest issue by a long stretch. What good is it signing a new QB if we just have to rely on an RB and TE again. Need a proper number 1 receiver at the least. And that’s not even looking at the OL or D.

I know it’s a silly argument but if everyone on the roster played to Carr’s level we’d be in the playoffs more often than not
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I’m tuning out of the off season for once. Have said it before that Carr is not our biggest issue by a long stretch. What good is it signing a new QB if we just have to rely on an RB and TE again. Need a proper number 1 receiver at the least. And that’s not even looking at the OL or D.

I know it’s a silly argument but if everyone on the roster played to Carr’s level we’d be in the playoffs more often than not
Totally agree with you guys. QB is so far down the list of areas where the Raiders can upgrade it is insane why there is any talk about replacing Carr at all. A true number 1 WR is the biggest offensive issue by far IMHO while the issues on the defensive side of the ball are to say the least lengthy and all vastly bigger areas of need to upgrade then QB.
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The amount of muck spouted by some Raiders fans is almost embarrassing. The clamour for Brady or the likes of Bridgewater/Winston/Mariota is embarrassing. Brady is about to fall off the cliff of time ( Not even he can stop that happening), if he was so good surely the Patriots would just Franchise tag him? and as for the other 3 I just dont see them being an upgrade thats worth giving up cap space for. As you say, lads, WR and Defense is of paramount importance this offseason.
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The amount of muck spouted by some Raiders fans is almost embarrassing. The clamour for Brady or the likes of Bridgewater/Winston/Mariota is embarrassing. Brady is about to fall off the cliff of time ( Not even he can stop that happening), if he was so good surely the Patriots would just Franchise tag him? and as for the other 3 I just dont see them being an upgrade thats worth giving up cap space for. As you say, lads, WR and Defense is of paramount importance this offseason.
Totally agree. Brady one of the all time greats in the game no question but his time is passed. Probably best for himself to ride into the sunset now. While the others well the most generous I can say is that maybe Winston on his best day is better then Carr but he is wildly inconsistent and one of Carr's strengths is he is consistently solid. Again zero question a true legit number 1 WR and defensive help is by a million miles the priority heading into next season.
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The Patriots don't have the option to franchise tag Brady, and though surely his fall off the cliff is going to come sooner rather than later at this stage it has been predicted for many a year at this stage. Also, the GOAT is more appropriate than ATG.
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Finally the draft has arrived, getting tired of all the click-bait stories about how the Raiders are trading one or both of their picks for miscontents on other teams or stories about how they would 'love' to draft player X or Y because they are the fastest player at their position(are they aware that Al Davis died years ago, so that type of drafting has long since passed too).

I just hope that GM Mike Mayock doesn't have to use up too many picks on new toys for Gruden to play with. They already have Carr, Mariota and Peterman, so spending an early pick on another QB should be out of the question, and the same applies with Waller, Moreau, Witten, Butler et al being more than adequate at tight end, especially given the weakness of this years' TE draft class.

Mayock would undoubtedly love to trade down to gain an extra pick or two in rounds 2 and/or 3, but with the supposed depth of talent this year, it seems more people want to trade down than trade up, so the compensation for dropping down might not be that great as teams compete for trade partners.

A couple of players linked with the Raiders make me nervous, I haven't seen much of Ruggs, but one site in comparing him to a current NFL player compared him to Darius Herward Bey(yikes!!!), while the 2nd rated cornerback prospect DJ Henderson is supposed to be a weak tackler, so unless his coverage skills mirror Deion Sanders, that would be a problem.

Whoever they choose, they need playmakers, especially on defence where Maxx Crosby was the only player to make things happen last year. Adams was injured for almost the entire season and may help, but they need far more than solid players on defence if they are going to slow Mahomes and co. They lack a number one WR too and in the later rounds they could do with finding a real speedster that can contribute on special teams and stretch the field on offence as well.

I just hope they stay put and take the best non QB or offensive tackle at 12, and as I see it, an impact linebacker is more valuable than the 3rd or 4th choice corner at 19. If they do trade, then drop from 19 into the 20s and get a few extra picks that could be packaged with 1 or more of their 3 third round picks, to possibly move back up into the 2nd.

I wonder would they even consider trading for picks next year, due to the uncertainty about whether the 2020 NFL and NCAA seasons will go ahead as planned ?
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Finally the draft has arrived, getting tired of all the click-bait stories about how the Raiders are trading one or both of their picks for miscontents on other teams or stories about how they would 'love' to draft player X or Y because they are the fastest player at their position(are they aware that Al Davis died years ago, so that type of drafting has long since passed too).

I just hope that GM Mike Mayock doesn't have to use up too many picks on new toys for Gruden to play with. They already have Carr, Mariota and Peterman, so spending an early pick on another QB should be out of the question, and the same applies with Waller, Moreau, Witten, Butler et al being more than adequate at tight end, especially given the weakness of this years' TE draft class.

Mayock would undoubtedly love to trade down to gain an extra pick or two in rounds 2 and/or 3, but with the supposed depth of talent this year, it seems more people want to trade down than trade up, so the compensation for dropping down might not be that great as teams compete for trade partners.

A couple of players linked with the Raiders make me nervous, I haven't seen much of Ruggs, but one site in comparing him to a current NFL player compared him to Darius Herward Bey(yikes!!!), while the 2nd rated cornerback prospect DJ Henderson is supposed to be a weak tackler, so unless his coverage skills mirror Deion Sanders, that would be a problem.

Whoever they choose, they need playmakers, especially on defence where Maxx Crosby was the only player to make things happen last year. Adams was injured for almost the entire season and may help, but they need far more than solid players on defence if they are going to slow Mahomes and co. They lack a number one WR too and in the later rounds they could do with finding a real speedster that can contribute on special teams and stretch the field on offence as well.

I just hope they stay put and take the best non QB or offensive tackle at 12, and as I see it, an impact linebacker is more valuable than the 3rd or 4th choice corner at 19. If they do trade, then drop from 19 into the 20s and get a few extra picks that could be packaged with 1 or more of their 3 third round picks, to possibly move back up into the 2nd.

I wonder would they even consider trading for picks next year, due to the uncertainty about whether the 2020 NFL and NCAA seasons will go ahead as planned ?

IMHO the 12th pick should be spent on the best defensive player available at that point. There are so many needs on defense for the Raiders that I would simply take the best defensive player still on the board with that pick. The second first round pick I would go for a WR at that point as the Raiders really need to find a true number 1 WR. I would then largely focus on the defensive side of things in subsequent rounds.
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Well the one thing I took from this draft is that Derek Carr’s position is safe this year - picks were made to bolster the offense and secondary. an edge rusher to help Max Crosby would have been good but let’s see what these guys can do.
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Well the one thing I took from this draft is that Derek Carr’s position is safe this year - picks were made to bolster the offense and secondary. an edge rusher to help Max Crosby would have been good but let’s see what these guys can do.
You would think this us the year for Carr to have an impact year. He has the weapons now on offense. At least on paper he does. The big question though is on the defense that still looks weak and likely will be what does the Raiders in next season. Hard to say at this point but I would think the goal next season must be to at least have a winning season at 9-7 maybe 10-6 and maybe a wildcard spot.
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Well they are all in on this Receiving Corps, thats for sure. 3 picks on WR, that has definitely restocked that part of the roster but I'm still unsure about the state of the D going into camp. At least we know they are happy with QB now.
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Well they are all in on this Receiving Corps, thats for sure. 3 picks on WR, that has definitely restocked that part of the roster but I'm still unsure about the state of the D going into camp. At least we know they are happy with QB now.
Agreed. On paper at least the offense should be pretty good. How far the Raiders go though next year will depend on the defense and to me that looks pretty iffy at best. The hope I guess would be that a significantly improved offense can at least get the Raiders from 7-9 to maybe 9-7 or 10-6 and a wildcard spot maybe which would be good progress especially if the last 15 years is the big picture your judging things from.
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