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Carbon Tax

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  • #92
    Doc07
    Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭Doc07


    Plastic bag levy/tax: there was an instant alternative , brilliant.
    Sugar tax: instant incentive for corporations to lower sugar and instant alternative available for the public, brilliant.
    Carbon tax applied to fuel: instant alternative avail....oh hang on


  • #93
    joeysoap
    Registered Users Posts: 6,230 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Didn’t hear anything about taxing farmers for their contribution to the carbon emissions, ie cattle , maybe I missed it.


  • #94
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    joeysoap wrote: »
    Didn’t hear anything about taxing farmers for their contribution to the carbon emissions, ie cattle , maybe I missed it.

    There was none, the carbon tax hike won't be applied to Green diesel either.


  • #95
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,196 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    lleti wrote: »
    I can see there being a big shock for people when they go to sell their EV car. It's grand when it's a couple years old I'm sure but take a look at cars 6/7 years old.

    This 6 year old leaf has only 25k miles done and is being advertised for €10,250.

    How much did a new leaf cost in 2013? What, 30k at least? So 20k loss and only 25k miles done.
    A car loses half it's value every three years generally.

    So a car €30k new you'd expect to be €7.5k after 6 years, so the leaf is doing well in that front. In fact, the values of used electrics have been holding up pretty well (even increasing) as there is a real shortage of them at older end of the market.


  • #96
    joeysoap
    Registered Users Posts: 6,230 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    There was none, the carbon tax hike won't be applied to Green diesel either.

    Selective carbon tax then. Nothing to do with the environment really , its just another tax. All tax is selective one way or another. This doesn’t appear much different. Minister must be delighted with all the green protests.


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  • #97
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    joeysoap wrote: »
    Selective carbon tax then. Nothing to do with the environment really , it just another tax. All tax is selective one way or another. This doesn’t appear much different. Minister must be delighted with all the green protests.

    The minister as with the rest of the political establishment are more delighted with Brexit as it takes away attention from their incompetence and lack of forward thinking.
    There was no measures introduced to deal with large polluters. All these measures are targeted at the populace not business.


  • #98
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,161 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    joeysoap wrote: »
    Didn’t hear anything about taxing farmers for their contribution to the carbon emissions, ie cattle , maybe I missed it.

    tax the farmers? how about adding a few cent per kilo at the point of purchase?


  • #99
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Chips Lovell wrote: »
    I mean that when it's time to change your car, it's going to be increasingly more economical to opt for an EV

    If youre looking for a compact saloon or small hatchback.

    There are no affordable widely adopted luxury saloons, SUV's, estates etc... that are EV.


  • #100
    lleti
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 271 ✭✭lleti


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    A car loses half it's value every three years generally.

    So a car €30k new you'd expect to be €7.5k after 6 years, so the leaf is doing well in that front. In fact, the values of used electrics have been holding up pretty well (even increasing) as there is a real shortage of them at older end of the market.

    A 2013 focus would cost around 12.5k and that's with 100k kilometres on it.

    This car has 25k miles....it's done nothing.


  • #101
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Doc07 wrote: »
    Plastic bag levy/tax: there was an instant alternative , brilliant.
    Sugar tax: instant incentive for corporations to lower sugar and instant alternative available for the public, brilliant.
    Carbon tax applied to fuel: instant alternative avail....oh hang on
    It looks back to front but the plan is to take some of that tax and use it for that alternative path.


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  • #102
    ednwireland
    Registered Users Posts: 14,284 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It looks back to front but the plan is to take some of that tax and use it for that alternative path.

    seriously you believe that from our politicians

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #103
    theballz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    lleti wrote: »
    A 2013 focus would cost around 12.5k and that's with 100k kilometres on it.

    This car has 25k miles....it's done nothing.

    No way a 2013 Focus goes for 12.5k lol

    Unless it has some sort of buzz light year wings and can fly - even at that I sincerely doubt it goes for 12.5k.


  • #104
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,096 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Noticed they tapped the markets for €2 billion for green projects on top of the carbon tax https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/1010/1082301-ntmas-green-bond-sale/


  • #105
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ednwireland wrote: »
    seriously you believe that from our politicians
    Well it'll be evident pretty quickly if they don't! That said there's a logic to finding a source of funding for continuing incentives.


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