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Is pedophilia used to blackmail the elites?

  • 09-08-2019 8:32pm
    #1
    mr_fegelien
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭


    There's a lot of rumours about the elites in various countries (UK and US in particular) being involved in child trafficking/sexual exploitation. David Icke apparently predicted Jimmy Saville was up to something before he was caught and being protected by MI5

    He also says that movements like #MeToo are actually "warning signs" to celebrities and politicans who step out of line with whatever agenda they're given and are threatened with exposure.

    Is this just bull**** or is there some truth to it?


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  • #2
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Predictions are easy after things happen. Funny he said damn all while working at the BBC.


  • #3
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    mr_fegelien wrote:
    Is this just bull**** or is there some truth to it?

    Sadly i personally think there could be some truth to it


  • #4
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    The "elite group of paedophiles/Satanists" is one of those conspiracy theories that immediately makes sceptics sneer, but just look at Lavrentiy Beria. As Stalin's head of internal intelligence and de facto deputy he was one of the top 10 (possibly top 5) most powerful men in the world and also a voracious child rapist and murderer, as bad or worse as any of the most notorious serial killers in history. His activities were an open secret amongst the Soviet elite and all of the soldiers, police and agents who helped facilitate them, and all of this happened within living memory.
    This doesn't mean anything about anyone else, but it does at least demonstrate that it's not impossible for it to exist, as crazy as it might sound on first hearing.


  • #5
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,529 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    A peripheral glance at the poorly closeted history of the Catholic Church will soon remind one that pedophilia and positions of authority, and indeed by extension implicit sense of trust, have a strong tendency to correlate.


  • #6
    Pa ElGrande
    Registered Users Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Here you go - The Washington Child Sex Ring Coverup.


    Then there was Barney Franks boyfriend who ran a prostitution ring from his home - nothing happened.


    Rep. Frank Acknowledges Hiring Male Prostitute as Personal Aide
    By Allan R. Gold, Special To the New York Times
    Aug. 26, 1989


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbcbETKef0

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



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  • #7
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    sabat wrote: »
    The "elite group of paedophiles/Satanists" is one of those conspiracy theories that immediately makes sceptics sneer, but just look at Lavrentiy Beria. As Stalin's head of internal intelligence and de facto deputy he was one of the top 10 (possibly top 5) most powerful men in the world and also a voracious child rapist and murderer, as bad or worse as any of the most notorious serial killers in history. His activities were an open secret amongst the Soviet elite and all of the soldiers, police and agents who helped facilitate them, and all of this happened within living memory.

    This man was responsible for the deaths of millions, he was a psychopathic brutal sadist, but it was literally his job, in one of the most brutal regimes in history. It's not really relevant to cases like Saville and Epstein. The flipside to all this is that people succumb to playing "connect-the-dots" rather than following the evidence and we end up with totally fabricated theories like Pizzagate


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    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    This man was responsible for the deaths of millions, he was a psychopathic brutal sadist, but it was literally his job, in one of the most brutal regimes in history. It's not really relevant to cases like Saville and Epstein. The flipside to all this is that people succumb to playing "connect-the-dots" rather than following the evidence and we end up with totally fabricated theories like Pizzagate

    Whether or not Pizzagate is fabricated, Epstein’s relationship with elites and his own ephebophilia is not.


  • #9
    mr_fegelien
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Whether or not Pizzagate is fabricated, Epstein’s relationship with elites and his own ephebophilia is not.

    And he mysteriously "suicided" under suicide watch? Conspiracy or not.


  • #10
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,529 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    And he mysteriously "suicided" under suicide watch? Conspiracy or not.

    Apparently taken off suicide watch before this happened


  • #11
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Whether or not Pizzagate is fabricated

    It was fabricated.


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  • #12
    SafeSurfer
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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    This man was responsible for the deaths of millions, he was a psychopathic brutal sadist, but it was literally his job, in one of the most brutal regimes in history. It's not really relevant to cases like Saville and Epstein. The flipside to all this is that people succumb to playing "connect-the-dots" rather than following the evidence and we end up with totally fabricated theories like Pizzagate

    Yes his job was torture and murder. But the rape, torture and murder of children is what he did for pleasure in his spare time. There is the whole theory of why elites in societies both ancient and modern come to, in myth or reality carry out unspeakable acts upon minors. I heard a podcast discussing the Epstein scandal which referenced some very disturbing accounts of the reasoning behind the elites past and present engaging in what can only be described as child sacrifice. It relates to a chemical compound called Adrenochrome which is apparently a type of elexir more addictive than heroin, whose production and consumption methods are too upsetting to be related.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #13
    Ipso
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    And we’re into adrenochrome. Sure at peak bottom of the barrel now.


  • #14
    SafeSurfer
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    Ipso wrote: »
    And we’re into adrenochrome. Sure at peak bottom of the barrel now.


    Not a particularly informative or enlightening post. Are you suggesting it doesn’t exist?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #15
    Ipso
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    No. just that in conspiracy contexts it’s nonsense.


  • #16
    gar32
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    I believe it's like a game to people in power. Get people to do something like that and you have them for life. If they even suggest they will tell anyone then they are killed. Do want I want and you can continue in you position with you pleasures being meet also. What ever that may be. Drugs, sex or I am sure other things we don't even want to know about. Step out of line and you have an accident.

    Just as a side note. More then 80 doctor's died in the last few years if the are healing people outside big pharma money circle. Where there is big money there is big risk.


  • #17
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    gar32 wrote: »
    Just as a side note. More then 80 doctor's died in the last few years if the are healing people outside big pharma money circle. Where there is big money there is big risk.

    Yup I know several friends who are working for "Big Pharma", can confirm they talk about nothing else but murdering doctors, laughing about their secret cure for cancer and gloating how much money they make from useless vaccines


  • #18
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    gar32 wrote: »
    Just as a side note. More then 80 doctor's died in the last few years if the are healing people outside big pharma money circle. Where there is big money there is big risk.

    Which is weird, as we all know that doctors are in fact immortal.


  • #19
    daveorourke77
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭daveorourke77


    I can undertsand how paedophilia is used to blackmail people of power.

    What I fail to understand is how these men are coaxed into making sexual contact with people they suspect they may be underage?


  • #20
    gar32
    Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭gar32


    More like at a party and after drinking maybe drug taking are introduced to the world we know nothing of by the comments so far.


  • #21
    mr_fegelien
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    daveorourke77 wrote: »
    I can undertsand how paedophilia is used to blackmail people of power.

    What I fail to understand is how these men are coaxed into making sexual contact with people they suspect they may be underage?

    You clearly have never met 14-16yr old girls who look older. I was in Stillorgan waiting for the bus and this 6ft good looking rich girl who looked about 20 asked me for my phone to make a call. Gladly gave her. Started on some chit chat.

    Turns out she was 16. 6 years younger than me. I would never have believed it. If she was at a party and trained well enough, I find it easy to see how any man would fall for her.


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  • #22
    daveorourke77
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭daveorourke77


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    You clearly have never met 14-16yr old girls who look older. I was in Stillorgan waiting for the bus and this 6ft good looking rich girl who looked about 20 asked me for my phone to make a call. Gladly gave her. Started on some chit chat.

    Turns out she was 16. 6 years younger than me. I would never have believed it. If she was at a party and trained well enough, I find it easy to see how any man would fall for her.

    I understand that girls can make themselves appear older than they. Men of a certain age should know this and act accordingly. Certaint men inprivileged should act in their own self interest and self preservation.

    So that makes you 22 at the time.

    No offence here but are you an elite. Elites are going to be almost exclusively older men who should have experience around women.

    Add to this the fact that they probably high flying careers, marriages, families and business interests to protect.

    Even if the girls they were sleeping with were 20 they could still lose a lot by jumping into bed with them. There are still possible consequences and they'd have plenty to lose.

    Paedophilia is a whole new level entirely.

    If you know a secret ike that about someone you could literally have them eating out of your hand.

    Whether or not it has happened is another thing but it is plausible.


  • #23
    Spencerfreeman
    Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Spencerfreeman


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    There's a lot of rumours about the elites in various countries (UK and US in particular) being involved in child trafficking/sexual exploitation. David Icke apparently predicted Jimmy Saville was up to something before he was caught and being protected by MI5

    He also says that movements like #MeToo are actually "warning signs" to celebrities and politicans who step out of line with whatever agenda they're given and are threatened with exposure.

    Is this just bull**** or is there some truth to it?

    I won't even bother reading the thread.
    Of course absolute fact.
    See Roy Cohn.


  • #24
    Ihatewhahabies
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭Ihatewhahabies


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Yes his job was torture and murder. But the rape, torture and murder of children is what he did for pleasure in his spare time. There is the whole theory of why elites in societies both ancient and modern come to, in myth or reality carry out unspeakable acts upon minors. I heard a podcast discussing the Epstein scandal which referenced some very disturbing accounts of the reasoning behind the elites past and present engaging in what can only be described as child sacrifice. It relates to a chemical compound called Adrenochrome which is apparently a type of elexir more addictive than heroin, whose production and consumption methods are too upsetting to be related.


    I used to listen to Alex Jones.....There was one upsetting conspiracy I did not even want to consider.A young persons' addrenalised blood was injected into older people to enable a longer healthier life.

    To addrenalise them the young person was abused sexually and physically.

    Even if true possibly should not even see the light of day


  • #25
    Ipso
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    Adrenochrome, now we're in the scutter bucket.


  • #26
    sheepsh4gger
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    Firstly I wouldn't take someone who thinks there are lizard people seriously.

    Of course they will pick subordinates with issues so they can get rid of the easily. It's a Machiavellian environment.


  • #27
    mr_fegelien
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    Firstly I wouldn't take someone who thinks there are lizard people seriously.

    Of course they will pick subordinates with issues so they can get rid of the easily. It's a Machiavellian environment.

    It's funny you say that but don't religions say the same thing. Many Christians who have had NDE's talk of going to hell and meeting reptillian like demonic entities. It's very possible he's talking about them manipulating this world from another realm.

    I have some skepticism but I really do wonder.


  • #28
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    Many Christians who have had NDE's talk of going to hell and meeting reptillian like demonic entities.

    I have some skepticism but I really do wonder.

    Here's the rub: Many Christians with near death experiences don't say that at all.


  • #29
    mr_fegelien
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    Mara Chubby Mincemeat wrote: »
    Here's the rub: Many Christians with near death experiences don't say that at all.

    Well I've seen some YouTube videos of Christians talking about meeting lizard like creatures in Hell. It may not be all of them or even most but there are quite a few who say that.


  • #30
    TheRepentent
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    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    Well I've seen some YouTube videos of Christians talking about meeting lizard like creatures in Hell. It may not be all of them or even most but there are quite a few who say that.
    In fairness you'd want to take anything a person who is suffering from delusions to start with , with a pinch of salt.


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  • #31
    King Mob
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    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    Well I've seen some YouTube videos of Christians talking about meeting lizard like creatures in Hell. It may not be all of them or even most but there are quite a few who say that.
    Imma bet no such videos exist.
    NDEs are almost entirely reported as positive experiences where the person claims to have seen heaven. Few if any describe hell.

    Even still not sure why you think that NDEs are particularly convincing towards the idea of a vast global conspiracy involvong lizard people...


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