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Dating Bullets/Cartridge

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  • 07-02-2021 5:47pm
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    Chauncey Gardner
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    Hi

    Can anyone put an approximate age one these? Found in a concentrated area at the bottom of a massive sand dune . I'd be guessing there was some sort of practice range there at some stage. It has been suggested there might be a possible War of Independence connection.


    Thanks


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    Chauncey Gardner
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    More pics.


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    Chauncey Gardner
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    Mods. Can this thread be moved to Military. Thanks


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    Chauncey Gardner
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    The winds blowing today have uncovered another 10 bullets and plenty more lead shrapnel.

    This bullet is 3.3cm x 7mm.


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    jonnybigwallet
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    Save them up. Scrap lead is worth a few bob. Can take them down a scrap merchant and capitalize on this.


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    Dohvolle
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    Scrap.
    Look like later version .303" or 7.62mm. Both modern steel jacketed. Not the type in use during the war of independence unfortunately, but quite common from the Emergency on. The Defence forces has numerous small firing ranges dotted around the country, most of the smallest were only recently closed down.
    The real evidence of their age will be found 100, 200 and 300 yards from where you found these, in the brass casing, which bear a lot number on their base.

    You didn't find then in Redbarn by any chance?


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    Chauncey Gardner
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    Thanks Dohvolle. Sending PM.


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    cameramonkey
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    Chauncey Gardner wrote: »
    Hi

    Can anyone put an approximate age one these? Found in a concentrated area at the bottom of a massive sand dune . I'd be guessing there was some sort of practice range there at some stage. It has been suggested there might be a possible War of Independence connection.


    Thanks


    As the other poster said either 303 or 7.62 fired by Lee Enfield of FN fal.


    Surprised there is not 9mm there as the any range I have been on has a few of them mixed in as well.


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    Dohvolle
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    cameramonkey wrote: »
    As the other poster said either 303 or 7.62 fired by Lee Enfield of FN fal.


    Surprised there is not 9mm there as the any rage I have been on has a few of them mixed in as well.

    Unless it was before the time of 9mm. The more I look at them the more I agree with the original thought that this place was used as a training area by some during war of independence. Interwar pistols did not use jacketed ammunition like the Parabellum. They would break up into smaller pieces on impact and be difficult to sort amongst the other debris.

    I'm going to see if I can find any mention of the area in military archives.


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    cameramonkey
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    Dohvolle wrote: »
    Unless it was before the time of 9mm. The more I look at them the more I agree with the original thought that this place was used as a training area by some during war of independence. Interwar pistols did not use jacketed ammunition like the Parabellum. They would break up into smaller pieces on impact and be difficult to sort amongst the other debris.

    I'm going to see if I can find any mention of the area in military archives.


    There was a real mish mash of calibers also being used in the revolutionary period, you would expect to see lots of different diameters if it is from then.
    If we exclude 7.62 and presume(a big presumption) they are 303 is it more likely that it was used by the LDF during the war years or the volunteers reserve force in the 20s or 30s, I have heard of many make shift ranges being used around the country. Where is this one situated? I wonder was there a local LDF unit in that area?


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    Chauncey Gardner
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    I've been in contact with a local archaeologist who ran it by one academic specialising in the Civil War. The suggestion is that there was a firing range in that location during the Civil War period, but I haven't definitely confirmed that as yet.

    I also found a really rusty (what I would call a horse shoe iron nail) in the same area as the bullets, I'll post a pic of that up later, which might help to give a date/period. Its possible that the nail was from a target, but again, I'm guessing.

    I really appreciate your input, many thanks.


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