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Ronnie O Sullivan

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  • #32
    dennyire
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭dennyire


    Hangdogroad wrote: »
    His oul fella was done for murder.

    What the f is that got anything to do with it


  • #33
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    dennyire wrote: »
    What the f is that got anything to do with it

    In all fairness, this is a thread in AH about him in general, as per the OP, and not in relation to a specific incident. This is not a specific thread in the snooker forum, where the majority of people would know about his dad.


  • #34
    dennyire
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭dennyire


    joeguevara wrote: »
    In all fairness, this is a thread in AH about him in general, as per the OP, and not in relation to a specific incident. This is not a specific thread in the snooker forum, where the majority of people would know about his dad.

    Dont understand your logic. OP was commenting on his interview . What has his fathers past got to do with anything?


  • #35
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    dennyire wrote: »
    Dont understand your logic. OP was commenting on his interview . What has his fathers past got to do with anything?

    This is my logic:

    He said ROS was motoring well at the crucible - no mention of interview

    Stuck a few quid on him - no mention of interview

    Can be an ar5ehole at times - no mention of interview

    And then as a throwaway comment at end said ' here is what i could find about the interview -

    Majority of OP was commenting about ROS in general not specifically about interview.


  • #36
    Conall Cernach
    Registered Users Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    Snooker is a far less popular sport among young people now than when it was when Ronnie was starting out. In the 80s and 90s there were snooker halls everywhere, now they'd be an oddity. As such there are far fewer players and so the quality must dip.


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  • #37
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    dennyire wrote: »
    Dont understand your logic. OP was commenting on his interview . What has his fathers past got to do with anything?

    In their head, they probably think it lends weight to the idea that ROS is not a nice guy... because his dad might not be a nice guy!?

    That's the only line of logic I can see.

    It's not logical though, ROS is actually very well liked by practically everyone in the sport... but he is also very well known for speaking his mind and being a bit eccentric at times!

    Oh yeah, and he's pretty damn good at snooker too! (when he's in the mood) :pac:


  • #38
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Conall Cernach wrote: »
    Snooker is a far less popular sport among young people now than when it was when Ronnie was starting out. In the 80s and 90s there were snooker halls everywhere, now they'd be an oddity. As such there are far fewer players and so the quality must dip.

    Where we grew up, there used to be 3 snooker halls all within 20 minutes by foot...Don't think any of those 3 have survived...Older brother would have played a lot as a young lad


  • #39
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    A character in sport. A dying breed.

    Doesnt give him a pass for saying potentially derogatory comments but id sooner have him than not. Brilliant to watch


  • #40
    Joe_ Public
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    Conall Cernach wrote: »
    Snooker is a far less popular sport among young people now than when it was when Ronnie was starting out. In the 80s and 90s there were snooker halls everywhere, now they'd be an oddity. As such there are far fewer players and so the quality must dip.

    Yes and no, really. There are a huge number of people playing the sport worldwide, far greater numbers than ever, just the anticipated surge of real quality players from the east hasnt happened yet. Maybe take another generation for that balance to swing, but I'm inclined to think it must do.


  • #41
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Internet has probably played a part as well, would a 13 year old Ken Doherty have spent as much time in a dingy Snooker Hall if he had a laptop and a good WIFI connection.


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  • #42
    dennyire
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭dennyire


    ROS probably best snooker talent ever,,,,including some of the greatest ..Hendry,,,Steve Davis etc
    Ok hes a bit eccentric and has his own personal health issues...who doesent
    But he attracts people to the game who might never watch it otherwise
    His interview...maybe a little tongue in cheek...might not have pleased everyone but at least he was honest....or maybe just having a bit of craic
    My initial point was why bring the sins of the father on to the son? Nothing Ronnie could do about that


  • #43
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    He just completey mis-cued there :o


  • #44
    The Nal
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    Say Your Number wrote: »
    Internet has probably played a part as well, would a 13 year old Ken Doherty have spent as much time in a dingy Snooker Hall if he had a laptop and a good WIFI connection.

    You'd have to find a snooker hall first these days! I used to play a lot in Jasons in Ranelagh which was a two story building with 20 odd tables smack bang in some of the most expensive land in the county. Crazy looking back at it now.

    Even Kens place in Terenure is rarely full and theres only 5 tables in there.
    dennyire wrote: »
    My initial point was why bring the sins of the father on to the son? Nothing Ronnie could do about that

    Very odd upbringing, very odd adult. He grew up very wealthy surrounded by porn with a gangster Dad and a hot Italian mum.


  • #45
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Say Your Number wrote: »
    He just completey mis-cued there :o

    He probably wasnt in the right frame of mind and just saw red.


  • #46
    Bob Gray
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭Bob Gray


    joeguevara wrote: »
    He probably wasnt in the right frame of mind and just saw red.

    Yeah, people should just give him a break.


  • #47
    Ash.J.Williams
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    joeguevara wrote: »
    He probably wasnt in the right frame of mind and just saw red.

    and wanted a nosh


  • #48
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Bob Gray wrote: »
    Yeah, people should just give him a break.

    I'd say the younger players drive him baizey.


  • #49
    howareyakid
    Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭howareyakid


    I love to watch Ronnie O’Sullivan similarly to how I love to watch Roger Federer play tennis because he’s a natural talent. He makes the game look ridiculously easy and his flair, speed, two-handedness etc. make him a joy to watch. But comments like the ones he made last night are exactly why some people can’t stand the man and love to see him get beaten.


  • #50
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I thought it was funny myself. Probably disrespectful. Actually, definitely disrespectful but any non-media trained sports interview is always refreshing.


  • #51
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    I thought it was funny myself. Probably disrespectful. Actually, definitely disrespectful but any non-media trained sports interview is always refreshing.

    I completely agree. Anyone who took offence at this, is looking to take offence at it. Firstly, he is speaking the truth. He is better than them all and gets annoyed if he isn't even challenged. He speaks his mind, would you expect anything else? He is a legend of the game, so its a breath of fresh air than having to listen to the same rote script interviews we are used to hearing in every sport.


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  • #52
    Wanderer78
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    some sort of physiological disorder probably going on there, amazingly talented though, best of luck to him


  • #53
    dennyire
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    joeguevara wrote: »
    I completely agree. Anyone who took offence at this, is looking to take offence at it. Firstly, he is speaking the truth. He is better than them all and gets annoyed if he isn't even challenged. He speaks his mind, would you expect anything else? He is a legend of the game, so its a breath of fresh air than having to listen to the same rote script interviews we are used to hearing in every sport.

    Jasus Joe you have changed your tune. Just watch him now on BBC2...magic


  • #54
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    dennyire wrote: »
    Jasus Joe you have changed your tune. Just watch him now on BBC2...magic

    Not at all, i think he is amazing. Best player ever. I grew up watching Taylor, Higgins, White, Davis and a young Hendry and while I loved Higgins, Ronnie has it all. I love the edge too.


  • #55
    ThewhiteJesus
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    razorblunt wrote: »
    He's a great talent, no doubt, but he's an absolute arsehóle at times too.
    His comments on the younger players was incredibly disrespectful and unprofessional.
    You can argue he has a point (I'd say he does) but there are so many ways he can put them across.

    There's no argument to be had, what he said is 100% accurate.
    If the way he answered a question offends you, that's on you.
    There has never been a time in snooker when 40plus players are winning major titles, in fact i think hendry retired at 35 or something as higgins and ronnie
    knocked him off his perch, like he did to davis and white.
    The snowflake players need to take what he said on the chin, he's the greatest player to ever play the game.
    They need to up their game which i'm sure they can.


  • #56
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    ThewhiteJesus wrote: »
    There's no argument to be had, what he said is 100% accurate.
    If the way he answered a question offends you, that's on you.
    There has never been a time in snooker when 40plus players are winning major titles, in fact i think hendry retired at 35 or something as higgins and ronnie
    knocked him off his perch, like he did to davis and white.
    The snowflake players need to take what he said on the chin, he's the greatest player to ever play the game.
    They need to up their game which i'm sure they can.

    Exactly. This would be similar if Maradonna after scoring a hat trick called the defence a bunch of muppets who don't deserve to tie his shoes. Play better or get criticised. End of.


  • #57
    howareyakid
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    ThewhiteJesus wrote: »
    There's no argument to be had, what he said is 100% accurate.
    If the way he answered a question offends you, that's on you.
    There has never been a time in snooker when 40plus players are winning major titles, in fact i think hendry retired at 35 or something as higgins and ronnie
    knocked him off his perch, like he did to davis and white.
    The snowflake players need to take what he said on the chin, he's the greatest player to ever play the game.
    They need to up their game which i'm sure they can.

    I’m sure it is accurate. If Ronnie is saying the standard is poor, no doubt it is. Could he have gone about saying it in a different way though? Or maybe he felt that the younger players he’s referring to needed to hear the unvarnished truth. I don’t know!


  • #58
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    howareyakid wrote: »
    I’m sure it is accurate. If Ronnie is saying the standard is poor, no doubt it is. Could he have gone about saying it in a different way though? Or maybe he felt that the younger players he’s referring to needed to hear the unvarnished truth. I don’t know!

    I suppose a question is 'why should he?'. He is not their mams. If he said it in a sugar coated way he would be blamed for being fake.


  • #59
    Cork Trucker
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    I'll never forget this



  • #60
    skinny90
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    some sort of physiological disorder probably going on there, amazingly talented though, best of luck to him

    It is well documented about his battles with depression. Certain things will tick him off and hell loose the rag or say things in the media, to any joe soap you'd think hes a pr*ck. Its funny how most of the people posting dont know this.


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  • #61
    Joe_ Public
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    ThewhiteJesus wrote: »
    There's no argument to be had, what he said is 100% accurate.
    If the way he answered a question offends you, that's on you.
    There has never been a time in snooker when 40plus players are winning major titles, in fact i think hendry retired at 35 or something as higgins and ronnie
    knocked him off his perch, like he did to davis and white.
    The snowflake players need to take what he said on the chin, he's the greatest player to ever play the game.
    They need to up their game which i'm sure they can.

    Not really. Ray Reardon was 38 when he won his first world title, 46 when he won his last. Doug Mountjoy didnt even turn pro till he was near 40 and went on to win a UK and other titles. Fred Davis reached a world sf at 68 etc. Different times but age is not exactly the barrier in snooker you might imagine it to be. Still doesnt make osullivan necessarily wrong in what he said though.


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