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    #122
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Speed limits on roads are kind of a bit silly, although I can understand why they are in place.
    For example, 120 is the speed limit on the motorway.
    During summer, its bright out until late and generally good conditions. You could easily drive faster and be safe.
    During winter, sometimes there can be torrential rain / ice etc. You could easily drive 120 and be way too fast.


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    #123
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 27,867 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Speak for yourself. With the death toll on the roads, I'm with the cops on this one.

    I think the cops need to remember what the cameras are for. When people think they are being located at spots of unclear speed limit \ just as speed limits reduce, where there's no accidents, a perception of shooting fish in a barrel sets in.

    The point of the cameras is to ensure speed adhered to at accident blackspots.
    Declaring almost every major road an accident blackspot ain't going to do that, or putting speed vans on roads where the accidents are low speed collisions in heavy traffic \ lane changing \ roundabouts.

    Or has all pretence of that been dropped and now it's just a money gathering exercise.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #124
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I had many a Gaurd give out about the speed limit on N11 but they love it for catching people.... 60km/h section.... UCD


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    #125
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users Posts: 17,652 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Money grab pure and simple.

    Also the garda website is terrible.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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    #126
    Don199
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Don199


    If they were on a 30km zone like the n3 slip on to m50 they would catch hundreds of people as no one sticks to that speed, ridiculous speed limit for the road it’s on, terribly designed.


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    #127
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users Posts: 17,391 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    I can only find the longitude and latitude of these new points. Has anyone dropped pins on a map? OPs post to the google maps link doesn’t work for me.


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    #128
    creedp
    Registered Users Posts: 5,595 ✭✭✭creedp


    Duckjob wrote: »
    It's not the cars that are the problem - its the fools behind the wheel whose sense of entitlement / macho / self importance so often far outweighs their driving competence.

    Take even a single metric - the number of incidents on the M50 every day of every week. Drivers can't even drive safely at 50kph for sh*t. What makes you think they'll do any better with the same proven incompetence at 150kph ?

    And yet the focus continues to be on enforcing speed limits … you can have all the speed cameras you want and yet there will be little or no enforcement of sanctions against people who are simply bad drivers.


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    #129
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,364 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Speed limits on roads are kind of a bit silly, although I can understand why they are in place.
    For example, 120 is the speed limit on the motorway.
    During summer, its bright out until late and generally good conditions. You could easily drive faster and be safe.
    During winter, sometimes there can be torrential rain / ice etc. You could easily drive 120 and be way too fast.
    It's a speed limit, not a speed target.
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I think the cops need to remember what the cameras are for. When people think they are being located at spots of unclear speed limit \ just as speed limits reduce, where there's no accidents, a perception of shooting fish in a barrel sets in.

    The point of the cameras is to ensure speed adhered to at accident blackspots.
    Declaring almost every major road an accident blackspot ain't going to do that, or putting speed vans on roads where the accidents are low speed collisions in heavy traffic \ lane changing \ roundabouts.

    Or has all pretence of that been dropped and now it's just a money gathering exercise.

    The 'money gathering exercise' costs us about €10 million each year. That's two schools not being built each year, because drivers won't obey speed limits.


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    #130
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Speak for yourself. With the death toll on the roads, I'm with the cops on this one.

    I’m all for road safety but the majority of this is a money grab.


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    #131
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Honestly, are you really old enough to have a licence? :rolleyes:

    Maybe when you have the same driving experience as me on irish roads ( approx 1000 miles a week in the last 30 years and never an accident ) maybe you’ll be more educated to reply to my posts. Kindly attack the post and not the poster, i believe bans are issued for that


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    #132
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I think the cops need to remember what the cameras are for. When people think they are being located at spots of unclear speed limit \ just as speed limits reduce, where there's no accidents, a perception of shooting fish in a barrel sets in.

    The point of the cameras is to ensure speed adhered to at accident blackspots.
    Declaring almost every major road an accident blackspot ain't going to do that, or putting speed vans on roads where the accidents are low speed collisions in heavy traffic \ lane changing \ roundabouts.

    Or has all pretence of that been dropped and now it's just a money gathering exercise.

    I find it funny cops are claiming they are putting them in speed prone collisions but yet they admit the survey vans were put out to see where the most speeding areas were, guess they can’t make up there mind which is true.


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    #133
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,364 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    I’m all for road safety but the majority of this is a money grab.

    Except it doesn't grab money. It costs money.


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    #134
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Except it doesn't grab money. It costs money.

    Exactly , if it’s costing the authorities money the more eager they will be to collect money to fill the hole.


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    #135
    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Drive from Dublin to Galway today, saw 3 Traffic Corps speed checks on the M6. None were in these high risk areas. Hard not to be sceptical about the motivation behind this.


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    #136
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    It's a speed limit, not a speed target.


    Yet they are failing people on their driving test everyday for "not making progress" when they are only slightly below the speed limit or taken some extra time to ensure its safe to make a turn.

    Wonder were the bad habit comes from?


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    #137
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,364 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Exactly , if it’s costing the authorities money the more eager they will be to collect money to fill the hole.

    It doesn't 'fill the hole'. It goes into a completely different budget.

    But there is one great way to avoid the money grab if you're that concerned about it.

    Stop speeding.


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    #138
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,835 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Maybe when you have the same driving experience as me on irish roads ( approx 1000 miles a week in the last 30 years and never an accident ) maybe you’ll be more educated to reply to my posts. Kindly attack the post and not the poster, i believe bans are issued for that
    Ignoring the fact that you have absolutely no idea how much or how little I drive, OK then...
    Micky 32 wrote: »
    I can tell you i’ll burn out my headlights to warn drivers.
    Aside from you breaking the law, the gardai don't catch people who aren't breaking the law through speeding. If you speed (and most of us do), then fine but accept the punishment that comes with it. Don't go facilitating the dopey eejits who are a danger to others.
    Many drivers out there have no ability to see beyond what they want to see at normal speeds. Helping them break the law through speeding makes the roads more dangerous.
    As someone who is frequently classed as a vulnerable road user, I have a pain in my arse with people who think it's fine to speed past me with next to no thought simply because they reckon its safe.
    Micky 32 wrote: »
    It’s really people versus the cops these days
    This is childish nonsense!
    You're trying to make it seem like there's a war on and the gardai are out to screw the regular person which we both know is not the case (despite your melodrama).


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    #139
    decky1
    Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭decky1


    ah grand no more speeding [till we get past the cameras] easy targets, how about a few drug dealer camera's?


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    #140
    coffeepls
    Registered Users Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭coffeepls


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    I can only find the longitude and latitude of these new points. Has anyone dropped pins on a map? OPs post to the google maps link doesn’t work for me.

    I thought the link didn’t work either, till I changed google maps to default view with no traffic. Then I could see black lines everywhere. I think the point of this map is that they can park that gosafe van just about anywhere.


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    #141
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    You could be driving like a clown for 1000 miles a week for 30 years. I know plenty of crap drivers that have been driving for 20+ years with no accidents. Still wouldnt trust them to drive a nail.

    Nope, sorry i respect my cars and other users on the road, never have even been beeped or flashed at or caught speeding in 15 years, so you’re making a wrong assumption there.


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    #142
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Drive from Dublin to Galway today, saw 3 Traffic Corps speed checks on the M6. None were in these high risk areas. Hard not to be sceptical about the motivation behind this.

    Depends on how fast someone is going around other drivers as to how much of a risk there is.


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    #143
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Ignoring the fact that you have absolutely no idea how much or how little I drive, OK then...

    Aside from you breaking the law, the gardai don't catch people who aren't breaking the law through speeding. If you speed (and most of us do), then fine but accept the punishment that comes with it. Don't go facilitating the dopey eejits who are a danger to others.
    Many drivers out there have no ability to see beyond what they want to see at normal speeds. Helping them break the law through speeding makes the roads more dangerous.
    As someone who is frequently classed as a vulnerable road user, I have a pain in my arse with people who think it's fine to speed past me with next to no thought simply because they reckon its safe.


    This is childish nonsense!
    You're trying to make it seem like there's a war on and the gardai are out to screw the regular person which we both know is not the case (despite your melodrama).

    Firstly there is no specific law against flashing your lights, maybe you should brush up on the traffic laws if you’re driving on the road?

    What’s with the chip on your shoulder if someone wants to pass you out? Are you one of those? How do you know they were over the limit just because you were driving slow? I gather you had a speed measuring device? Did they overtake with a car coming head on? Was it a white line they overtook on? There seems to be a lot of road users that get offended if someone overtakes.

    I’ll overtake a car whether it’s you or anybody else if i deem it safe to do so.


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    #144
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    It doesn't 'fill the hole'. It goes into a completely different budget.

    But there is one great way to avoid the money grab if you're that concerned about it.

    Stop speeding.

    Who said i was speeding? I haven’t been caught in 15 years . If it’s costing money they will be eager to collect it.


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    #145
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,835 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Nope, sorry i respect my cars and other users on the road,
    How is flashing your headlamps (to the point they burn out) to warn other drivers of a speed trap respecting other road users?
    How does you helping others to potentially drive dangerously respect someone walking along the road? How does it respect the kid cycling home from school? Or the person on horseback?
    Get over yourself!


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    #146
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,835 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Firstly there is no specific law against flashing your lights, maybe you should brush up on the traffic laws if you’re driving on the road?
    Maybe double check it's illegality again!
    Micky 32 wrote: »
    What’s with the chip on your shoulder if someone wants to pass you out? Are you one of those? How do you know they were over the limit just because you were driving slow? I gather you had a speed measuring device? Did they overtake with a car coming head on? Was it a white line they overtook on? There seems to be a lot of road users that get offended if someone overtakes.

    I’ll overtake a car whether it’s you or anybody else if i deem it safe to do so.
    I didn't say you shouldn't overtake. I merely suggested that your actions encourage dangerous driving.
    I use roads as a driver, as a cyclist and as a pedestrian. If your actions to warn people of a speed trap put me or someone else in danger then you are in the wrong.


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    #147
    theguzman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    Is there any app or system that we could use to have our phones or GPS indicate that we are entering into an enforcement zone. I can't find the list on the Garda website now.


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    #148
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users Posts: 17,391 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    It's a speed limit, not a speed target.

    I bet you're one of those 80kp/h drivers in the 100. You cause more accidents than the lad going a few km/h over.


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    #149
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    How is thrashing your headlamps (to the point they burn out) to warn other drivers of a speed trap respecting other road users?
    How does you helping others to potentially drive dangerously respect someone walking along the road? How does it respect the kid cycling home from school? Or the person on horseback?
    Get over yourself!

    So just because i flash the lights it means i’m driving awful bad? Did you know that when you flash your lights people slow down? That can go for horse riders and children. If i see some hazard on the road i will flash too so your logic is pointless and shows your inexperience on the road.


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    #150
    Andrewf20
    Registered Users Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    In a nut shell the bone of contention is a digital law for an analog reality.


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    #151
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,835 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    So just because i flash the lights it means i’m driving awful bad? Did you know that when you flash your lights people slow down? That can go for horse riders and children. If i see some hazard on the road i will flash too so your logic is pointless and shows your inexperience on the road.
    I apologise. You're a hero. Well done you!
    :rolleyes:


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