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20-12-2019, 19:00   #241
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In golf surely it must be McIlroy and Lowry injuries permitting. Unless of course one or both of them do a U-turn like in 2016.
It’s based on the rankings so at the moment it’s them and it’s very unlikely anyone will overtake them

Leona Maguire and Stephanie Meadow will make the women’s event too

It’ll be June before we can officially count them though
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The sports that we are looking for qualifiers through rankings now all finish in May/June next year (inc Athletics, Judo, Golf, Triathlon, Modern Pentathlon)

We’ll know swimming in April

The boxing qualifiers are the big ones for us
And track cycling. Although one would need a doctorate to understand fully the qualification criteria in some events!
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So 2020 has dawned and we are now in an Olympic year Yippeee! Team Ireland now at 47 with loads more opportuinities to add to the team in the coming months. We can get qualifiers by Ranking or qualifying at an event or meeting a qualifying time. With respect to rankings our situation is as follows:

Athletics: We have 6 athlethes in qualifying positions based on world rankings. Leon Reid and Marcus Lawler in 200m, Mark English 800m, Tom Barr 400mh, Phil Healy 200m (w) and Michelles Finn 3000m SC (w). In addition there are one or two more that are bubbling under and could make the grade. On the flip side Tom Barr aside the others could all be overtaken in the rankings easily enough.

Badminton; Nat Nguyen is high enough ranked in Mens single to be fairly safe. In Mixed Doubles Chloe and Sam Magee are a few spots away from qualifying. They had a poorish last few months of the year and dropped out of the qualification spots. Will need a few good performances over the next few weeks.

Cycling ( Track): Currently our womens Madison Team is in a qualification place with 1 world cup event and world championships left. Mens Madison team is just outside a qualification spot but would need a serious World Championship to qualify.

Golf: Ireland will definitely qualify 2 men and 2 women based on the rankings. Most probably McElroy and Lowery and in Womens Maguire and Meadows.

Judo. Both Ben and Megan Fletcher are well inside the qualification rankings and barring a poor run of results in next few months should be ok. Nathon Burns spent much of 2019 in an automatic qualifying spot as well but slipped out in the last few weeks. Hopefully he can get back into a qualifying place in 2020.

Modern Pentathlon: Arthur Lanigan O'Keefe on a good day could challenge for a medal but he was dogged by injury in the latter half of 2019 and is currently well down thwe rankings. If he back to his best he should climb back to a qualifying place or if managegs to finish in top 3 at World Championships that would qualify him too. Sive Brassil isnt that too far outside a ranking spot but would need a run of really good results this Spring to make it.

Swimming: Currently our mens 4 x 100m Medley relay and 4 x 200m freestyle relay are in qualification spots. In reality it would be a surprise if either qualified butthe Medley relay team has probley the best chance. Individual swimmers can still qualify based on times.

Triathlon: Currently both Russell White and Carolyn Hayes are in qualifying places albeit right on the bubble. Hayes is improving and should make it and hopefully While can as well but he cannot afford to drop a place.

There are no other sports where Ireland is close to getting a spot based on ranking.

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So 2020 has dawned and we are now in an Olympic year Yippeee! Team Ireland now at 47 with loads more opportuinities to add to the team in the coming months. We can get qualifiers by Ranking or qualifying at an event or meeting a qualifying time. With respect to rankings our situation is as follows:

Athletics: We have 6 athlethes in qualifying positions based on world rankings. Leon Reid and Marcus Lawler in 200m, Mark English 800m, Tom Barr 400mh, Phil Healy 200m (w) and Michelles Finn 3000m SC (w). In addition there are one or two more that are bubbling under and could make the grade. On the flip side Tom Barr aside the others could all be overtaken in the rankings easily enough.

Badminton; Nat Nguyen is high enough ranked in Mens single to be fairly safe. In Mixed Doubles Chloe and Sam Magee are a few spots away from qualifying. They had a poorish last few months of the year and dropped out of the qualification spots. Will need a few good performances over the next few weeks.

Cycling ( Track): Currently our womens Madison Team is in a qualification place with 1 world cup event and world championships left. Mens Madison team is just outside a qualification spot but would need a serious World Championship to qualify.

Golf: Ireland will definitely qualify 2 men and 2 women based on the rankings. Most probably McElroy and Lowery and in Womens Maguire and Meadows.

Judo. Both Ben and Megan Fletcher are well inside the qualification rankings and barring a poor run of results in next few months should be ok. Nathon Burns spent much of 2019 in an automatic qualifying spot as well but slipped out in the last few weeks. Hopefully he can get back into a qualifying place in 2020.

Modern Pentathlon: Arthur Lanigan O'Keefe on a good day could challenge for a medal but he was dogged by injury in the latter half of 2019 and is currently well down thwe rankings. If he back to his best he should climb back to a qualifying place or if managegs to finish in top 3 at World Championships that would qualify him too. Sive Brassil isnt that too far outside a ranking spot but would need a run of really good results this Spring to make it.

Triathlon: Currently both Russell White and Carolyn Hayes are in qualifying places albeit right on the bubble. Hayes is improving and should make it and hopefully While can as well but he cannot afford to drop a place.

There are no other sports where Ireland is close to getting a spot based on ranking.
Don't forget boxing! Kelly Harrington will be a strong fancy to qualify, probably Michaela Walsh too.

I assume the plan is to enter a male and female boxer into every single weight division, so we would be hoping for a surprise qualifier or two.
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Don't forget boxing! Kelly Harrington will be a strong fancy to qualify, probably Michaela Walsh too.

I assume the plan is to enter a male and female boxer into every single weight division, so we would be hoping for a surprise qualifier or two.
I,m Not! The above is just those who can qualify based on rankings. I will do another preview on those who can qualify in other ways...boxing,rowing,sailing, Rugby 7s, swimming etc.
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Rugby 7s men have 1 shot at the repechage for 1 spot.
They will have to win the tournament to be held next June
France, Samoa will be toughest challengers. Shame tournament only has 12 and not 16 spots like in rio
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Don't forget boxing! Kelly Harrington will be a strong fancy to qualify, probably Michaela Walsh too.

I assume the plan is to enter a male and female boxer into every single weight division, so we would be hoping for a surprise qualifier or two.
13 weight categories. 8 men, 5 women. I think we’ll qualify 8/9 with average luck
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2 marathon runners have booked their place

- Paul Pollock with a 2.10.25 NI record in Valencia in December

- Stephen Scullion qualified this morning with a top 5 finish in Houston Marathon
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2 marathon runners have booked their place

- Paul Pollock with a 2.10.25 NI record in Valencia in December

- Stephen Scullion qualified this morning with a top 5 finish in Houston Marathon
Great News. TRhat one went under the radar on me. I hadnt realised an athlerthe could qualify that way. Fair play to him.
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Great News. TRhat one went under the radar on me. I hadnt realised an athlerthe could qualify that way. Fair play to him.
Gold label Marathon's - top 5 finish counts as an automatic qualifier

World Marathon Majors (Berlin, Chicago, New York, London Tokyo and Boston) - Top 10 finish counts. This means Fionualla McCormack qualifies based on her Chicago performance (though also under the time)
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There’s an issue with the marathon qualifiers though

They have set a cap of 80 on the men’s marathon field. That was to be made up of finishers through (a) placing in qualifying marathons, (b) those who reached a very low time (7 and a half minutes quicker than was needed for Rio) and (c) the new IAAF rankings

Then vaporfly happened.

There is already 80 men with the time and more, like Scullion, who qualify through the placing.

It remains to be seen how they deal with a supposedly strict limit of 80 and what is likely to be 120 or so qualifiers.

Hopefully Scullion will be OK, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he is forced out
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There’s an issue with the marathon qualifiers though

They have set a cap of 80 on the men’s marathon field. That was to be made up of finishers through (a) placing in qualifying marathons, (b) those who reached a very low time (7 and a half minutes quicker than was needed for Rio) and (c) the new IAAF rankings

Then vaporfly happened.

There is already 80 men with the time and more, like Scullion, who qualify through the placing.

It remains to be seen how they deal with a supposedly strict limit of 80 and what is likely to be 120 or so qualifiers.

Hopefully Scullion will be OK, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he is forced out
Is there 80 after the 3 per country limit kicks in though? I don't think anyone will get in off the ranking but off top of my head I think auto qualifiers probably won't be impacted. I believe Scullion's performance at the weekend knocked Felicien MUHITIRA out of a qualifying spot despite him only being ranked 322nd on the world rankings

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80 in total (with a national limit of 3 per NOC)



Qualification process:
An athlete can qualify in one of two ways:
 Achieve the entry standard within the respective qualification period
 Qualify by virtue of his IAAF World Ranking Position in the selected event at the
end of the respective qualification period.

In both cases, the maximum quota per NOC per event must be respected and the number of entries per event (in section A.) cannot be exceeded.

...

 The first 10 runners in the Men’s Marathon and in the Women’s Marathon in the IAAF World Athletics Championships Doha 2019 and the top 5 finishers at the IAAF Gold Label Marathons and the top 10 finishers at the Marathon Major Series (Tokyo, Boston, London, Berlin, Chicago and New York) held during the qualification period will also be considered as having achieved the entry standard.



They basically didn’t see that many get the times. The overall limit is 1900 athletes. Maybe other events will see their maximum reduced to help the marathon
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Qualification process:
An athlete can qualify in one of two ways:
 Achieve the entry standard within the respective qualification period
 Qualify by virtue of his IAAF World Ranking Position in the selected event at the
end of the respective qualification period.

In both cases, the maximum quota per NOC per event must be respected and the number of entries per event (in section A.) cannot be exceeded.

...

 The first 10 runners in the Men’s Marathon and in the Women’s Marathon in the IAAF World Athletics Championships Doha 2019 and the top 5 finishers at the IAAF Gold Label Marathons and the top 10 finishers at the Marathon Major Series (Tokyo, Boston, London, Berlin, Chicago and New York) held during the qualification period will also be considered as having achieved the entry standard.



They basically didn’t see that many get the times. The overall limit is 1900 athletes. Maybe other events will see their maximum reduced to help the marathon
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80 in total (with a national limit of 3 per NOC)



Qualification process:
An athlete can qualify in one of two ways:
 Achieve the entry standard within the respective qualification period
 Qualify by virtue of his IAAF World Ranking Position in the selected event at the
end of the respective qualification period.

In both cases, the maximum quota per NOC per event must be respected and the number of entries per event (in section A.) cannot be exceeded.

...

 The first 10 runners in the Men’s Marathon and in the Women’s Marathon in the IAAF World Athletics Championships Doha 2019 and the top 5 finishers at the IAAF Gold Label Marathons and the top 10 finishers at the Marathon Major Series (Tokyo, Boston, London, Berlin, Chicago and New York) held during the qualification period will also be considered as having achieved the entry standard.



They basically didn’t see that many get the times. The overall limit is 1900 athletes. Maybe other events will see their maximum reduced to help the marathon
Yes I am aware my point is that currently according to rankings Top 5 finish seems to supersede auto time.

Currently Felicien Muhitira is the last automatic qualifier with the 67th quickest based on time (when you exclude the 3 NOC extra's but 322nd on time overall)

There are 13 auto qualifiers prior to this weekend. Scullion's placing is the only one which will influence things and I believe this will supersede the time and eliminate Felicien.
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