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23-10-2019, 14:12   #1
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New AM4 Build Suggestions

I'm going to upgrade my build soon. Sticking to mATX. I like compact machines.

Considering the following.

Ryzen 5 3600x OR Ryzen 7 3700x CPU
ASRock B450m Steel Legend OR ASRock X570m Pro 4 (Only choice for X570 mATX at the moment.)
2x 8GB 3600Mhz CL14 RAM
Sapphire Pulse RX 5700XT GPU
Corsair 280x Case (Any alternatives to this? Not fussed on a case right now but considering one in the future)

Already have a decent case, storage, PSU, peripherals and a copy of Windows 10 Pro.

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3600MHz CL14 doesn't exist - you'd have to manually OC & tune to get those latencies at that clockspeed.

Corsair 280X isn't small - 39L
I'd look at mini-ITX if you want to be compact - mATX isn't appreciably smaller than ATX, IMHO.
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3600MHz CL14 doesn't exist - you'd have to manually OC & tune to get those latencies at that clockspeed.

Corsair 280X isn't small - 39L
I'd look at mini-ITX if you want to be compact - mATX isn't appreciably smaller than ATX, IMHO.
I definitely need to do more research. I understood that 3200MHz was base clock on AM4 Ryzen 3000's. Just assumed that 3600MHz existed. Also getting mixed up in cases. Was looking at so many that everything just became a blur. 🙈

It was the Cooler Master Q500L I was interested in.

It is probably more practical for me to go for an ATX case/mobo. I'm not too fussed on keeping it compact. I'm not planning on OC, would 3200 be sufficient?
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3600MHz exists, but not at CL14 latencies without tweaking.

3200MHz CL16 is super cheap right now - €77-87 for 2x8Gb compared to €135+ for CL14/CL15.
However 3600 & 3733 MHz CL17 is nearly the same price - they're a better buy IMHO.

Q500L isn't a good case.
Look at Riotoro CR1080/1088 for compact ATX, or consider mini-ITX.

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3600MHz CL16 is what you should aim for and then run IF 1800MHz. I have them running on my 3700X. They cost more but are worth it.

3200MHz CL14 was the best for first gen Ryzen.

I have this kit. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-...my-08q-tg.html

They run 3600MHz CL14.
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Thanks guys. Will I be OK with a B450 or should I go for an X570 for a 3600x/3700x? Am I missing anything useful other than PCIe 4.0?

Can't decide between the two. Would like to have the extra 2 cores, but not sure if I'd utilise them. What's the stock cooler like on the 3700x?
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Thanks guys. Will I be OK with a B450 or should I go for an X570 for a 3600x/3700x? Am I missing anything useful other than PCIe 4.0?

Can't decide between the two. Would like to have the extra 2 cores, but not sure if I'd utilise them. What's the stock cooler like on the 3700x?
B450 will work as long as BIOS has been updated - get X570 if you don't want any hassle.

3700X stock cooler is decent - Wraith Prism RGB - better than the 3600 one.

If you want a decent budget watercooling AIO, check out the Arctic Liquid Freezer II series; or their Freezer 34/33 eSports One for a tower cooler.

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Thanks guys. I bought the GPU today from amazon.fr. €432 including delivery.
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Any suggestions regarding the motherboard? Was looking at the MSI B450m Mortar but from reading there are major issues with stability on 3rd Gen Ryzen CPU's. I don't think the X570m board is worth ~200, especially since it's the only mATX board as of now. I can't see myself needing PCIe 4.0 anytime soon.
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This is my final build. After a lot of research, suggestions from you guys and price comparisons, this is what has resulted. I'll include hardware that I currently own to complete the build.

CPU: Ryzen 7 3800x with Wraith Prism RGB Cooler (€429 Komplett.ie)
GPU: Sapphire Pulse RX 5700XT (€419 Amazon.fr)
RAM: 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3600Mhz CL18 (€110 Amazon.de)
Motherboard: MSI B450M Mortar Max (€100 Amazon.de)
PSU: EVGA 750w GQ Semi Modular 80+ Gold
SSD: 500GB Samsung 860 Evo
HDD: 1TB Western Digital Blue 7200RPM
External HDD: Seagate 2TB 7200RPM
ODD: 16x DVD+R DL
Case: Rosewill Line M mATX

Will definitely upgrade current case as there is no room for optimal cable management, and no point having RGB components without being able to see them.

Any thoughts on the NZXT H500i/H510i?
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I'd actually go for the RAM I posted further up the thread than the stuff you posted just now. I know it costs a bit more but it's worth it due to the tighter timings.
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I'd actually go for the RAM I posted further up the thread than the stuff you posted just now. I know it costs a bit more but it's worth it due to the tighter timings.
I'll amend my RAM selection to the one you suggested.
Will CL16 with Samsung's B-Die make a huge difference? Also any thoughts on the case I suggested?
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I'll amend my RAM selection to the one you suggested.
Will CL16 with Samsung's B-Die make a huge difference? Also any thoughts on the case I suggested?
You won't notice a difference day top day but benchmarks and gaining a few extra frames while gaming so it is worth it. It's not even that much more expensive so worth it.
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Makes sense.

I've ordered the remaining components. Just need to decide on a case and I'm all set. Can't wait to build it.

Will post some pics when the build is complete.

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I was hoping to build this week but my Motherboard and RAM are delayed as they were sent to the wrong sorting hub in France and were returned. I don't know now when they will arrive.
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