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17-12-2012, 09:55   #31
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Looks like such an unsuitable little ship for standby work in bad weather, more like something you'd see in the US Gulf.
Looked her up built 1981, in Canada

She does look more suitable for the US/Arabian gulf work, but still a big step up from the first generation boats that worked in the North Sea
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Looks like such an unsuitable little ship for standby work in bad weather, more like something you'd see in the US Gulf.
I worked offshore supply/Stanby on what I would have considered a small vessel, I would have been cacking myself working on that one. The bridge certainly looks like something you would spot in the US Gulf.
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Fairplay to the helicopter crews involved in the rescue it was some job in those conditions
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US Court Orders Watson and the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society to Stay Away from Whaling Ships

http://gcaptain.com/court-orders-wat...-conservation/

At last,and about time.
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While I still support the idea of sea shepard I now see watson as tainted seeing as how he fled Germany. I think he could have tangled them up in legal wranglings far better and saved face.
However the IWC for the most part came together and agreed to stop whaling except for research purposes. Can you (a) honestly tell me all the whales slaughtered are for research in any way shape or form and (b) why no country takes it upon themselves to enforce this agreed regulation. This is where SS stepped in. The general concensus seems to be if its happening in international waters who gives a fck. And its ok for members to hunt in a place they themselves designated a sanctuary? Nuts.
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US Court Orders Watson and the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society to Stay Away from Whaling Ships

http://gcaptain.com/court-orders-wat...-conservation/

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While I still support the idea of sea shepard I now see watson as tainted seeing as how he fled Germany. I think he could have tangled them up in legal wranglings far better and saved face.
However the IWC for the most part came together and agreed to stop whaling except for research purposes. Can you (a) honestly tell me all the whales slaughtered are for research in any way shape or form and (b) why no country takes it upon themselves to enforce this agreed regulation. This is where SS stepped in. The general concensus seems to be if its happening in international waters who gives a fck. And its ok for members to hunt in a place they themselves designated a sanctuary? Nuts.
http://www.iwcoffice.org/sanctuaries
a)If they have a quota of whales to hunt for research,i am sure they do it for that purpose,but if its also sold as whalemeat i cant see the problem either.Pity to let it go to waste.

b)Not every country have taken the steps to agree with it,simply because IWC is the one that gives out the quotas each year for hunting,and IWC was not always right in their numbers.

IWC was founded in 1946,long before watson and sea shepard came into the spotlight,and to manage sustainable hunting of whales.

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so in response to (a) if it really is for research how many do they need japan can take 850 or so for research it seems and how long does it need to continue. and (b) this just proves the point of how powerless the iwc is as it sets antartica as a sanctuary and then does nothing to enforce that sanctuary which is where ss came in to try and enforce it. Japan has been seen to help out other countries to get them to vote the way they want in the iwc but even then when something goes againest them they go ahead anyway and nothing is done about it. I am not always a fan of SS tactics but commend them at least for doing something.
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what research could you possibly need 850 dead whales each and every year for?
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what research could you possibly need 850 dead whales each and every year for?
Same way as you need 100 million other animals in medical research each year
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so in response to (a) if it really is for research how many do they need japan can take 850 or so for research it seems and how long does it need to continue. and (b) this just proves the point of how powerless the iwc is as it sets antartica as a sanctuary and then does nothing to enforce that sanctuary which is where ss came in to try and enforce it. Japan has been seen to help out other countries to get them to vote the way they want in the iwc but even then when something goes againest them they go ahead anyway and nothing is done about it. I am not always a fan of SS tactics but commend them at least for doing something.
You just said it,SS should stay out of it,and let IWC handle it.
SS is only provoking the Whalers with their so called tactics,to the point where they simply dont give a f..k.
I am sure you wouldnt like to be on the other end if this was Irish beef they where protesting against.
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You just said it,SS should stay out of it,and let IWC handle it.
SS is only provoking the Whalers with their so called tactics,to the point where they simply dont give a f..k.
I am sure you wouldnt like to be on the other end if this was Irish beef they where protesting against.
There is no shortage of cows. They weren't considered almost extinct 40 years ago.
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There is no shortage of cows. They weren't considered almost extinct 40 years ago.
And when was the minke whale considered extinct:rolleyes:And did you count the cows,lol
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And when was the minke whale considered extinct:rolleyes:And did you count the cows,lol
There has been no accurate data. It is however on the CITES list as Threatened.
As for the cows, yes.

Just under 6m in ireland alone.
http://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/rel...ck_dec2011.pdf
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[QUOTE=goldie fish;82327707]There has been no accurate data. It is however on the CITES list as Threatened.
As for the cows, yes.

Just under 6m in ireland alone.
http://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/rel...pdf[/QUOTE]

Threathened is not extinct,and 850 whales out of a population of over 500000 whales is not much if you ask me.
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The basic argument about Paul Watson is he be a rich middle class idiot, who will end up killing 30 odd people, some poor some rich

Protest but do it safely
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