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Mountbatten wanted United Ireland
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Brian Capture wrote: »Go into a pub anytime England are playing a soccer or rugby match and see how many Irish people are screaming for the opposition - no matter who they are.
If those same people haven't the balls to have the courage of the convictions and celebrate IRA bombings, the 7/7/05 attacks etc, well then they're hypocrites.
Yeh, we're going to cheer for the country that has f*cked us over for 800 years, killed countless amounts of our citizens, robbed our land, divided our nation, and still up to their dirty tricks in this country today. Get a grip!
Because people don't cheer for England, they should support the 7/7/05 attack. Thats some leap.
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Erin Go Brath wrote: »Yeh, we're going to cheer for the country that has f*cked us over for 800 years, killed countless amounts of our citizens, robbed our land, divided our nation, and still up to their dirty tricks in this country today. Get a grip!
Because people don't cheer for England, they should support the 7/7/05 attack. Thats some leap. I guess we are country of hypocrites then.
I never suggested cheering for England.
If you hate them so much then celebrating 7/7/05, Kings Cross tube station fire, McCann disappearance, Paddington rail disaster, death of English tourists in South African bus crash etc should come naturally.0 -
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There's always a bit of rivalry when it comes to sporting events, but as you say no one should equate wanting the other team to win with supporting terrorist acts against the UK.Erin Go Brath wrote: »Yeh, we're going to cheer for the country that has f*cked us over for 800 years, killed countless amounts of our citizens, robbed our land, divided our nation, and still up to their dirty tricks in this country today. Get a grip!
Because people don't cheer for England, they should support the 7/7/05 attack. Thats some leap. I guess we are country of hypocrites then.
But for us "plastic paddies" born in England, when the England V Ireland match is on, at least we can be happy whatever the resault!
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Deleted User wrote: »This thread is about Mountbatten not the current Middle East conflict!
Oh my Gawd, the backlash of the brits :eek:
Partly right, it's about Mountbatten's alleged view on a United Ireland, and not his death. The subject of his death was not introduced by me. But anyway, it's part of any discussion for someone to mention incidental information or make a comparision Einstein.So, because the Americans and British have killed lots of children in Iraq then it's wrong to remind us that the IRA killed children (and a lot more than 2 of them, I might add)?
All killing of children is wrong, but as an Irishman I find it particularly repugnant that the IRA killed children in the name of my country. But, since the British have killed more children, then I guess I shouldn't be bothered about it? Hey, give me enough time and I might even become proud of it!
Never said implied it was wrong to remind anyone that the IRA killed children or since the British have killed more children, then I guess I shouldn't be bothered about it? But what gets me is the hypocrisy ofthe great Irish 'peace' cliche " I find it particularly repugnant that the IRA killed children in the name of my country ". Just like the type of hypocrisy in 1984 - All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
So how how repugnant it is for you is not how many are killed, but who does the killing ? Even though the other side may kill in a ratio of say, 100 to 1, it still is more repugnant the crowd who do 1 killing ??0 -
Why would I want to go there? I'm Irish, Catholic and from Dublin and have always lived in Dublin, except from when I went to Uni. in London.
You obviously take the view that anything that the "Republicans" do is right and for the good of the country and everything that everyone else does is wrong.
The "Republican" movement are the most sectarian mob ever, they believe that it is their god-given right to slag and intimdate people due to their religion.
The IRA have more than cancelled out any entitlement they may have had to be bitter over Bloody Sunday with their almost 30 year reign of terror throghout the British Isles.
And this is the fella who posted back on the 11-11-2007 on After Hours > Rememberance PoppyA lot of people on this forum seem to have problems seperating religion from loyalty and respect.
The poppy is a symbol of people's respect for people who gave their lives in defence of our way of life, if it wasn't for these brave people the world would be a very different place, and not in a good way. For a start we wouldn't have a democracy and we would be under the direct control of the German Kaiser.
I was at a Royal British Legion fundraiser in Belfast last year and the people there were genuinely passionate about making the lives of those injured and their families better and more dignified.
What a MEGA IDIOT. Definetly a Fred Fratton fellow brit trying to troll. Maybe it's time for me to get the Republican cavalry I think as Fred cann't destroy any critical discussion of britian but enlisted his brit friends to help him ? 0 -
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McArmalite wrote: »And this is the fella who posted back on the 11-11-2007 on After Hours > Rememberance Poppy
What a MEGA IDIOT. Definetly a Fred Fratton fellow brit trying to troll. Maybe it's time for me to get the Republican cavalry I think as Fred cann't destroy any critical discussion of britian but enlisted his brit friends to help him ?
Personal insults, are you getting a bit desperate? What's next, are you and your friends going to come over to my house and knee-cap me for expressing an opinion?
Wearing the Poppy to show support for the brave soldiers who died in the World Wars to protect our way of life is totally separate from my opinion that the IRA and their supporters are scum (a general insult rather than a personal attack).
Your idea of a critical discussion of Britain obviously involves someone expressing their opinion that Britain and the British are the enemy and that they are always wrong and that anyone that disagrees with this narrow-minded viewpoint are wrong.
As I mentioned before, I am an Irish Catholic who has lived in Dublin for almost my entire life and have attended a Catholic school, and my opinion of the British and their contribution to life in Ireland and indeed, around the world, is based on my observations and analysis of the British way of life and the legacy that they left us (law, education , infrastructure etc.)
What is generally forgotten is that the UK offered employment and a way out of poverty for millions of Irish people when they were under no legal obligation to do so (I am well aware that certain sections of the British people were anti-Irish etc..)0 -
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The what??... the British Isles....
There is no such geo-political entity. Where ARE these "British Isles?" Do you mean the islands of Great Britain, Shetlands, Orkneys, Hebrides, Anglesea, Isle of Wight, etc, etc Must be that, I suppose. After all, no intelligent person could have failed to notice that Ireland is no longer a British Island. although there are some who would like it to be so:rolleyes: 0 -
Gobán Saor wrote: »The what?? There is no such geo-political entity. Where ARE these "British Isles?" Do you mean the islands of Great Britain, Shetlands, Orkneys, Hebrides, Anglesea, Isle of Wight, etc, etc Must be that, I suppose. After all, no intelligent person could have failed to notice that Ireland is no longer a British Island. although there are some who would like it to be so:rolleyes:
Strange, according to most reputable encyclopaedias and atlases the British Isles consist of the islands of Great Britain, Ireland and a number of smaller islands.
In much the same way that the city of Londonderry is often, incorrectly, referred to as Derry!!!!!!! However the county is also incorrectly referred to as County Londonderry, where in fact, it is County Derry0 -
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