Post Reply  
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
13-02-2020, 16:22   #1
Noteworthy
Verified representative
 
Noteworthy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 21
Is a €10-million-a-kilometre road in Co Mayo the best use of public funds?

With an overall price tag of €241 million, the road is the single largest ever investment by government in the western county. The price of the road however, has already gone up by €70 million.

We'd like your help with an investigation into the justification for the new road as well as why the costs involved have risen so quickly.

It would be great if you could spread the word about this investigation proposal.

You can find out more about the project and support it here: https://www.noteworthy.ie/proposal/m...ost-73-Dec2019

We're an investigative platform called Noteworthy which was set up by TheJournal.ie. The idea is that we crowdsource ideas for stories that are not currently being covered by the media, and crowdfund in order to carry them out.

Let us know your ideas below or email information@noteworthy.ie - Also if you could share this, that would be brilliant.

Attached Images
File Type: png mayo_road_1.png (299.5 KB, 1032 views)
Noteworthy is offline  
Advertisement
13-02-2020, 19:18   #2
DumbBrunette
Registered User
 
DumbBrunette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 242
If you look at the eTenders website you'll see the cost of the construction contract ex VAT is 170m euro.

The remainder, I assume, is made up of land acquisition costs and preliminary works contracts like archaeology and hedgerow clearance as well as design costs, topographic surveys, etc, over the past 10 years or so.

None of these costs are recoverable, so 70m euro has already been spent on the road before a sod is turned. It would be a far greater folly to not go ahead and build a road that has already cost 70m.

Construction costs are high at the moment for obvious reasons. The only thing worth investigating here is if there's any way to bring them down.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Noteworthy View Post
With an overall price tag of €241 million, the road is the single largest ever investment by government in the western county. The price of the road however, has already gone up by €70 million.

We'd like your help with an investigation into the justification for the new road as well as why the costs involved have risen so quickly.

It would be great if you could spread the word about this investigation proposal.

You can find out more about the project and support it here: https://www.noteworthy.ie/proposal/m...ost-73-Dec2019

We're an investigative platform called Noteworthy which was set up by TheJournal.ie. The idea is that we crowdsource ideas for stories that are not currently being covered by the media, and crowdfund in order to carry them out.

Let us know your ideas below or email information@noteworthy.ie - Also if you could share this, that would be brilliant.

DumbBrunette is offline  
13-02-2020, 22:14   #3
Pete_Cavan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,449
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noteworthy View Post
We'd like your help with an investigation into the justification for the new road as well as why the costs involved have risen so quickly.
How quickly have the costs risen? Do you have various estimates at particular dates which show that the cost has risen in a short space of time? Do you have estimates to show that the costs have risen at all?
Pete_Cavan is offline  
(2) thanks from:
13-02-2020, 22:51   #4
DaCor
Registered User
 
DaCor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,752
Non-story
DaCor is offline  
14-02-2020, 10:53   #5
dubhthach
Registered User
 
dubhthach's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 3,198
How much should a road cost per KM? price seems fairly standard for what's proposed.
dubhthach is offline  
Advertisement
14-02-2020, 13:14   #6
tom1ie
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,048
So is the road costing €241m or €241 + €70m?
What is the breakdown of the 70m already spent, landowner purchasing costs, survey, design etc.
tom1ie is offline  
14-02-2020, 13:20   #7
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,765
Well overdue this upgrade, needs to happen.
JJJJNR is offline  
14-02-2020, 13:23   #8
Rodin
Registered User
 
Rodin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,065
That this road is being built ahead of the Cork-Limerick road is a national disgrace.
Rodin is offline  
14-02-2020, 13:25   #9
rustynutz
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 695
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJJJNR View Post
Well overdue this upgrade, needs to happen.
Definitely, its fairly standard to link the West Coast of a country with the East coast with a decent main road, and with Ireland as small as it, it's an embarrassment it hasn't been done before now. Now if they would just upgrade the Frenchpark to Strokestown road there would at long last be a complete East to West road.
rustynutz is offline  
Advertisement
14-02-2020, 13:54   #10
Rodin
Registered User
 
Rodin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,065
Quote:
Originally Posted by rustynutz View Post
Definitely, its fairly standard to link the West Coast of a country with the East coast with a decent main road, and with Ireland as small as it, it's an embarrassment it hasn't been done before now. Now if they would just upgrade the Frenchpark to Strokestown road there would at long last be a complete East to West road.
Dublin to Limerick is an East to West Road.
Rodin is offline  
Thanks from:
15-02-2020, 17:34   #11
whitey1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 349
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodin View Post
That this road is being built ahead of the Cork-Limerick road is a national disgrace.
Cork and Limerick (and Galway for that matter) both have direct motorway routes to Dublin (and Limerick has a direct motorway route to Galway)

The Castlebar to Westport road is a glorified cart track and absolutely deserves to be built NOW
whitey1 is offline  
(5) thanks from:
15-02-2020, 17:38   #12
Atlantic Dawn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 61,355
Will it be tolled?
Atlantic Dawn is online now  
15-02-2020, 17:39   #13
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 680
What about the Bellacorrick to Castlebar road.
It can be well over 50 miles for people to a hospital from here, and the bit ive mentioned is a f****n joke.
keepalive213 is offline  
15-02-2020, 17:44   #14
Tell me how
Registered User
 
Tell me how's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 16,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by whitey1 View Post
Cork and Limerick (and Galway for that matter) both have direct motorway routes to Dublin (and Limerick has a direct motorway route to Galway)

The Castlebar to Westport road is a glorified cart track and absolutely deserves to be built NOW
Don't see how you can compare a road linking the 2nd and third largest cities in the country to two comparatively small towns in the same county.

An argument further undermined with statistics that indicate that traffic on the N20 is more than double that on the N5 Galway to Westport leg with the N20 also carrying a proportionally greater number of HGV's.

Road Traffic Ireland

I would also add that your points on access to Dublin are irrelevant.
Tell me how is online now  
(2) thanks from:
15-02-2020, 17:46   #15
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,027
The money whatever it costs will never be recouped.
Boredstiff666 is offline  
Post Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Remove Text Formatting
Bold
Italic
Underline

Insert Image
Wrap [QUOTE] tags around selected text
 
Decrease Size
Increase Size
Please sign up or log in to join the discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



Share Tweet