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Video camera or Mirrorless

  • 16-10-2019 10:48am
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    M5
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    Looking at buying a video camera for some industrial work. The location has very complex lighting and a high dynamic range is a must. Videos are primarily for procedures etc and wouldnt be higher than 1080p

    The existing camera was a 150 euro handheld piece of crap. I brought in my A7iii and the difference was stark.

    My question is, would i be better with a dedicated video camera for the job or should i stick with something similar to the A7ii? The company will be purchasing the camera. Price range within shooting distance of a7ii.

    I know virtually nothing about videography and any pointers on the above would be appreciated


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  • #2
    M5
    Registered Users Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Anyone even know of a video camera specialist or a website that would be any help?


  • #3
    dory
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    You said A7ii and then A7iii. Which is it? Very different cameras. I would say you'll be fine with a good mirrorless camera. I recently shot a wedding for a friend on a Sony A6500 and was amazed with the quality.


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    M5
    Registered Users Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    dory wrote: »
    You said A7ii and then A7iii. Which is it? Very different cameras. I would say you'll be fine with a good mirrorless camera. I recently shot a wedding for a friend on a Sony A6500 and was amazed with the quality.

    I have an a7iii but was thinking the a7ii would do the job. Do they not use the same sensor?

    I have heard the 6500 does a good job alright, although I'd say the crop would struggle with the subject dynamic range.

    The iii did the job so may end up going for that as fallback.

    I guess the only advantage of a video camera woidl be servo zoom and af

    Edit, I see the II and iii are completely different


  • #5
    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,230 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Would the job be allowing ‘certain designated staff’ to use the camera for their own projects? In the interests of making sure it was in tip top working order, and to become expertly familiar with its functionality etc?

    That’d certainly influence my recommendation if I were said employee...

    :D


  • #6
    M5
    Registered Users Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    endacl wrote: »
    Would the job be allowing ‘certain designated staff’ to use the camera for their own projects? In the interests of making sure it was in tip top working order, and to become expertly familiar with its functionality etc?

    That’d certainly influence my recommendation if I were said employee...

    :D

    Haha, yeah! I considered that.

    There's a handy backup settings feature that I'll be using to reseton the a7iii which is another plus should that be the decision. I'll be running a crash course also for end users.

    Camera will not be leaving site, but would be usable. Camera can have access controlled electronically and access is to be conditional on training and other obvious factors

    Certainly be a nice Christmas present if just left lying around. Problem is, cheapo cameras just won't work. Lighting an issue as most surfaces are very reflective


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  • #7
    B1gft
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭B1gft


    I had the same decision to make a few months ago and I went with the sony ax53 camcorder. The main reason was because of stabilization. With a camera I would have had to purchase a gimbal for moving shots. For a good one they cost a few hundred. The reviews on the camcorder said the built in gimbal was good.


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    M5
    Registered Users Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    B1gft wrote: »
    I had the same decision to make a few months ago and I went with the sony ax53 camcorder. The main reason was because of stabilization. With a camera I would have had to purchase a gimbal for moving shots. For a good one they cost a few hundred. The reviews on the camcorder said the built in gimbal was good.

    Is that any better than the 5 axis in the A7 though i wonder. And also the sensor wont quite work in the environment. might look at some higher spec video cameras


  • #9
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    M5 wrote: »
    Looking at buying a video camera for some industrial work. The location has very complex lighting and a high dynamic range is a must. Videos are primarily for procedures etc and wouldnt be higher than 1080p

    The existing camera was a 150 euro handheld piece of crap. I brought in my A7iii and the difference was stark.

    My question is, would i be better with a dedicated video camera for the job or should i stick with something similar to the A7ii? The company will be purchasing the camera. Price range within shooting distance of a7ii.

    I know virtually nothing about videography and any pointers on the above would be appreciated


    Go with a Sony A series and a good lens setup. Video cameras with fixed zoom lenses are pretty limited in that price range . It also depends a bit on the type of work you are doing, video cameras can work well in certain circumstances but unless you were looking at spending 10G I dont think you could beat a sony A series.


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    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    B1gft wrote: »
    I had the same decision to make a few months ago and I went with the sony ax53 camcorder. .
    Will it do 24 or 25 fps in PAL? And can give blurry background look? Thanks. Apologies OP for jumping in


  • #11
    M5
    Registered Users Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Went with a7iii, very impressive in challenging conditions

    Work away Kelly


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    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    M5 wrote: »
    Went with a7iii, very impressive in challenging conditions

    Work away Kelly
    you are better off the video camera cannot do full manual. if you have aperture manual you cannot have shutter speed manual


  • #13
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Princess Loose Swindler wrote: »
    you are better off the video camera cannot do full manual. if you have aperture manual you cannot have shutter speed manual


    If you are using the camera as a video camera, changing the shutter speed during normal operations should not be necessary. You set your shutter speed depending on your needs and with regard to frame rate and then you use manual aperture for exposure.


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    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    cameramonkey wrote: »
    If you are using the camera as a video camera, changing the shutter speed during normal operations should not be necessary. You set your shutter speed depending on your needs and with regard to frame rate and then you use manual aperture for exposure.
    disgaree. i would not buy unless i could have full manual control


  • #15
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Princess Loose Swindler wrote: »
    disgaree. i would not buy unless i could have full manual control


    You may disagree but what I said was true. No professional would need to change the Shutter speed or FPS once their shot was set up shooting video.



    F stops or NDs are the means to control proper exposure once you decide on shutter speed.


  • #16
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    cameramonkey wrote: »
    You may disagree but what I said was true. No professional would need to change the Shutter speed or FPS once their shot was set up shooting video.



    F stops or NDs are the means to control proper exposure once you decide on shutter speed.
    not what i meant
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rAQR1qr_ew&feature=youtu.be&t=259


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