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    #542
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Me too- dam departure reasoning. Aye she fooking died, she wasn't hanging around to have ghostie calves for us. :rolleyes:


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    #543
    dohc turbo2
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    Me too- dam departure reasoning. Aye she fooking died, she wasn't hanging around to have ghostie calves for us. :rolleyes:

    Did u ring to find out that


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    #544
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    dohc turbo2 wrote: »
    Did u ring to find out that

    No, she showed up online as needing a reason.
    No 'Death' departure reason either :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #545
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Will you still get paid?

    Ah I will ya but as I haven’t done it before this round of prepayment checks I’ll be in next batch but I probably should have looked at the icbf sooner and I’d have been paid , ive a penalty coming too as I used 5 TVR straws and although I’m 100% ai usage you need to pick 80% of 4-5 star and he had fallen from grace due to high hard calving figures


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    #546
    dohc turbo2
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    Found out why I’m delayed , my stock bull got injured and I had no bull on farm 30th June , so I’m facing a penalty


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    #547
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,078 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    sonnybill wrote: »
    Ah I will ya but as I haven’t done it before this round of prepayment checks I’ll be in next batch but I probably should have looked at the icbf sooner and I’d have been paid , ive a penalty coming too as I used 5 TVR straws and although I’m 100% ai usage you need to pick 80% of 4-5 star and he had fallen from grace due to high hard calving figures

    We were penalised a few years ago as I didn't fill out all the surveys. I now check every few weeks and fill in whatever they want.


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    #548
    Parishlad
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    whelan2 wrote: »
    We were penalised a few years ago as I didn't fill out all the surveys. I now check every few weeks and fill in whatever they want.

    Same here. I'd check in to ICBF regularly just to check.


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    #549
    Grueller
    Registered Users Posts: 5,100 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Showing in amounts due here at the moment. Just as well with the amount of bills I have paid this month.


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    #550
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    dohc turbo2 wrote: »
    Found out why I’m delayed , my stock bull got injured and I had no bull on farm 30th June , so I’m facing a penalty

    My bull hurt his leg earlier this year and had to hang onto him to satisfy the requirements even though I was well in excess of all the other requirements. I'll leave him now till the date he has to be here and move him on then.


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    #551
    Parishlad
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    My bull hurt his leg earlier this year and had to hang onto him to satisfy the requirements even though I was well in excess of all the other requirements. I'll leave him now till the date he has to be here and move him on then.
    That's an 'interesting' requirement for BDGP, i.e. that you need to keep the bull for a certain period of time. I never even thought about it to be honest and I suppose luckily I've had no reason to move my bull on.


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    #552
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Didn't know that either. Last year LM was injured, and culled (fight, neigbour's bull broke in, only heard that much later), Anyway, no cow in calf by July, the second bull, easy calving for heifers was drafted in for Aug and didn't disappoint, only drawback was his calves weren't as good, and it showed in the sale price.


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    #553
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Parishlad wrote: »
    That's an 'interesting' requirement for BDGP, i.e. that you need to keep the bull for a certain period of time. I never even thought about it to be honest and I suppose luckily I've had no reason to move my bull on.

    You must have a 4 or 5 star bull in the herd on a certain day, I think? It's just easier for me to keep this lad and cull him later as I won't have the risk of bringing in something with a new bull. Or the cost either. I should have a few 5 star replacement bulls born next year so they will replace the current bull when he goes.


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    #554
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    sonnybill wrote: »
    Ah I will ya but as I haven’t done it before this round of prepayment checks I’ll be in next batch but I probably should have looked at the icbf sooner and I’d have been paid , ive a penalty coming too as I used 5 TVR straws and although I’m 100% ai usage you need to pick 80% of 4-5 star and he had fallen from grace due to high hard calving figures

    I rang them today and payment on way but 80% penalty imposed as the 5 no. TVR straws used bring my ai usage of 4/5 star sires under the requirement, I had 5 cracking bull calves and every second show calf in the country is TVR


    #harsh


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    #555
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭tanko


    sonnybill wrote: »
    I rang them today and payment on way but 80% penalty imposed as the 5 no. TVR straws used bring my ai usage of 4/5 star sires under the requirement, I had 5 cracking bull calves and every second show calf in the country is TVR


    #harsh

    It is harsh indeed.
    Would Elite Ice Cream do the same job as TVR, he qualifies for the BDGP.
    Wilodge Joskins could be another option.


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    #556
    Farmer Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭Farmer Dan


    sonnybill wrote: »
    I rang them today and payment on way but 80% penalty imposed as the 5 no. TVR straws used bring my ai usage of 4/5 star sires under the requirement, I had 5 cracking bull calves and every second show calf in the country is TVR


    #harsh

    Is that 80% of your total or of that section?
    I think there is 6 or 7 different sections, survey, genotyping, carbon navigator etc


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    dohc turbo2
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    Farmer Dan wrote: »
    Is that 80% of your total or of that section?
    I think there is 6 or 7 different sections, survey, genotyping, carbon navigator etc

    Just came up on my account there for the bull they took 1030 off me. What I should be getting is 1445 , nice kick 13th of June the bull was taken I didn’t want tom he lad to suffer he wants t improving


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    #558
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,078 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    dohc turbo2 wrote: »
    Just came up on my account there for the bull they took 1030 off me. What I should be getting is 1445 , nice kick 13th of June the bull was taken I didn’t want tom he lad to suffer he wants t improving

    Would Some of that deduction be the genomic testing ?


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    #559
    dohc turbo2
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Would Some of that deduction be the genomic testing ?

    No that’s outside of it ,


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    #560
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    tanko wrote: »
    It is harsh indeed.
    Would Elite Ice Cream do the same job as TVR, he qualifies for the BDGP.
    Wilodge Joskins could be another option.

    I expected a penalty just not 80% , I will appeal it as unless they changed the t and c’s the penalty should be 10% for ai usage.

    TVR was five star once in his lifetime but they changed that ruling too , he has to be five star in either terminal or maternal after a date in 2016


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    #561
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    Farmer Dan wrote: »
    Is that 80% of your total or of that section?
    I think there is 6 or 7 different sections, survey, genotyping, carbon navigator etc

    E1030 Is total

    E140 genotyping

    E890 I should get

    They giving me E272


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    Farmer Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭Farmer Dan


    sonnybill wrote: »
    E1030 Is total

    E140 genotyping

    E890 I should get

    They giving me E272

    Looking at the T & C again. You can see where the penalty is coming from.


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    #563
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    tanko wrote: »
    It is harsh indeed.
    Would Elite Ice Cream do the same job as TVR, he qualifies for the BDGP.
    Wilodge Joskins could be another option.

    Yeah I used him more this year on the bb x cows where I would have used TVR and I was disappointed with his first calf 2 years ago in comparison to TVR on same cow but in fairness in October he was a great calf


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    #564
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    Farmer Dan wrote: »
    Looking at the T & C again. You can see where the penalty is coming from.

    I was looking at original scheme bdgp t and c’s as published on IFA website but you are right I know they changed them once we were signed up , it’s okay for them to do that


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    #565
    Hurling Hereford
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Hurling Hereford


    sonnybill wrote: »
    E1030 Is total

    E140 genotyping

    E890 I should get

    They giving me E272

    Stock Bull or A.I. Penalty? 60%:(


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    #566
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    Hurling Hereford wrote: »
    Stock Bull or A.I. Penalty? 60%:(

    100% A.I 2018/19

    Have a genotyped five star 🌟 char bull In shed for next year alright


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    #567
    Hurling Hereford
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Hurling Hereford


    sonnybill wrote: »
    100% A.I 2018/19

    Have a genotyped five star �� char bull In shed for next year alright

    Did you use all 4/5 star A.I. straws on your cows sonnybill?


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    #568
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,958 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Got call yesterday for a white tag inspection on Monday, guess my payment will be a while so. Also think one of the tags may be missing.


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    #569
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,078 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    emaherx wrote: »
    Got call yesterday for a white tag inspection on Monday, guess my payment will be a while so. Also think one of the tags may be missing.

    When I was tagging a few of mine the tag broke, you could say that happened. Sure it's probably months since they were tagged


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    #570
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,958 ✭✭✭emaherx


    whelan2 wrote: »
    When I was tagging a few of mine the tag broke, you could say that happened. Sure it's probably months since they were tagged

    Well that's what happened as they are crap. But sample was taken successfuly and sent off with the rest.


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    #571
    Hurling Hereford
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Hurling Hereford


    whelan2 wrote: »
    When I was tagging a few of mine the tag broke, you could say that happened. Sure it's probably months since they were tagged

    If you genotyped the animals you were asked to do and sent be the samples to Weatherbys you should be in order.


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