Running issues specific to women

RacoonQueen wrote: »

My dog had that when she was about 14. The medication the vet put her on had her sending out all kinds of signals to the horny dogs around the area and mam and dad and their neighbours where hassled by about 3 dogs who just kept hanging round the road until she came off the medication. :pac:

:pac:

That may explain recent antics!

chickey2 wrote: »

Just going back to the Roar book by Stacy sims. She recommends taking low dose aspirin for the second two weeks of your cycle, before training. I did a bit of research and spoke to a pharmacist today and it's not recommended that anyone take low dose aspirin unless they have heart problems. It can cause gastro bleeding and kidney problems, and if you fall while running you'll bleed more. You can't get low dose aspirin over the counter here anyway, it's only on prescription.

Maybe we need to start a separate thread to discuss the lovely Stacey . I did see that she had a track stack which said before a big event - mix caffeine , low dose aspirin and beta Alanine , I didn’t see the during cycle bit . I’m such a sucker for a quick
Fix - anything but actually train. I straight away looked to see if you could buy over the counter . I know my dad has them for sure ! Maybe he will give me one for my next race !

So far I bought magnesium , zinc and krill oil . I had iron and vitamin d. I’m still researching the Beta Alanine and the BCAAs. I follow Shaun T and he’s always talking about prework out supplements - they sounded interesting so I looked into them. They all seem to contain caffeine, Beta Alanine and BCAAs. So I would love to know if any runners on here have tried them !

Anyways very interested in hearing ideas for marathon nutrition etc!

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Honestly, I don't think it has to be massively complicated. Most of the supplements just result in expensive pee! Eat well, plenty of plants. Cup of coffee is as good a preworkout as anything.

I'm about a 5 hour marathoner and during the race I take a gel around every 5 miles, last one at 23 ish rather than 25.

The book we are talking about by Dr Stacy Sims talks about women and sport and nutrition . She doesn’t recommend gel for women but is an advocate of real food to refuel . I haven’t tried this yet it’s all relatively new and I’m just starting to read up on it . Have a listen to this podcast if you haven’t already , it’s really interesting : https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/trainingpeaks-coachcast/id1435395422?i=1000440461735

chickey2 wrote: »

Just going back to the Roar book by Stacy sims. She recommends taking low dose aspirin for the second two weeks of your cycle, before training. I did a bit of research and spoke to a pharmacist today and it's not recommended that anyone take low dose aspirin unless they have heart problems. It can cause gastro bleeding and kidney problems, and if you fall while running you'll bleed more. You can't get low dose aspirin over the counter here anyway, it's only on prescription.

I was listening to a podcast today and she mentioned instead of taking baby aspirin to take whitewillow bark instead I have not looked in to see about getting it yet.

But I am going to do the other tips she suggested to offset the effects of higher progesterone and estrogen in the luteal phase

Increase intake in salt, cold drinks and when hydrating have a little carb and salt in my water.

just an FYI: estrogen spares glycogen so during the high hormone phase during training runs and importantly for races have carbs as we can not access our glycogen like we normally would so that will help us hit higher intensity during this phase.

She also recommended increasing protien in particularly Leucine to signal the body to repair and help adaption and help with Central nervous system fatigue ( lose your mojo ) during the LP phase of our cycle. I got some BCAA before as they are good to take when you are unwell it helps with recovery.

I will be putting this all in to practice this week thanks to mother nature for my HM on Saturday

Here is the podcast if anyone want to listen! https://www.enduranceplanet.com/stacy-sims-phd-the-everything-guide-for-female-athletes-how-to-navigate-your-menstrual-cycle-the-menopause-years-cortisol-and-stress-nutrition-needs-and-more/

hillsiderunner wrote: »

Am going to read through this thread later as I think it's interesting, just adding a contribution first.

I have never noticed the time of my cycle affecting races/running over the years, not even once. Apart from basic practicalities I guess. I did have issues with low-iron in the past (fixed now) but not with time of the month.

Not adding that to suggest my individual design is so special or extraordinary or anything :pac:. Just as a data point.

Are you aware of your cycle as in do you track it . I know some friends who never have a notion of what time of the month they are at so bad training sessions or races could never be attributed to hormones .

In saying that we are all different and there can be huge variations in hormones and how your body reacts to them . Even month to month the effect of high hormones on my body changes so there has to be a huge spectrum across the board.

HelenAnne wrote: »

I'm sure you know this already, but since aspirin comes from willowbark, any warnings given upthread about taking aspirin could apply to willowbark as well?

(I haven't listened to Stacy Simms, just chipping in with my tree info )

always good to be reminded of that

Bluesquare wrote: »

Are you aware of your cycle as in do you track it . I know some friends who never have a notion of what time of the month they are at so bad training sessions or races could never be attributed to hormones.

You are right and I've never been in the habit of tracking it as I can always feel totm coming on. But the Olympic athletes seemed to be saying their bad races happened when having their period and I would have noticed that. My periods have been turned-off the past couple of years to fix the low-iron so I can't experiment now ...

Huzzah! wrote: »

Me too. So uncomfortable. I had a look at Anna's link and they seem to offer the Holy Grail - https://www.oiselle.com/shop/running-bottoms/long-pocket-jogger-shorts

I like the almost-cycling short style of running short because they're tighter, they don't ride up. It's really difficult to find ones that are a decent length, though, and I'm delighted to see Oiselle do them.

Yeuck. I hate lycra!!! Find those tight shorts so unflattering, but it's not the same for everyone of course.

I love the Nike dri-fit tempo shorts and have a few pairs, most recent pair are bright-purple/lilac which would not be my top choice but they have a *zipped* pocket on the back, swoon. Also have a lovely pair of Navy Under Armours (with peach trimming), Ososlo owns the exact same pair.

This is a brilliant thread

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Yeuck. I hate lycra!!! Find those tight shorts so unflattering, but it's not the same for everyone of course.

I love the Nike dri-fit tempo shorts and have a few pairs, most recent pair are bright-purple/lilac which would not be my top choice but they have a *zipped* pocket on the back, swoon. Also have a lovely pair of Navy Under Armours (with peach trimming), Ososlo owns the exact same pair.

This is a brilliant thread [/quote]

I’d love to be able to wear the tempo-style shorts but they ride up something awful, which is even more unflattering than Lycra, and also results in chafe. I think it might be due to my knock-kneed gait.[/quote]

ariana` wrote: »

Im not ot sure what this style of shorts is commonly known as but they're my preferred choice! I bought a similar pair in the states about 10yrs ago long before I even took up running and I still wear them but the pocket is very small and no zip, Decathlon are better in that regard.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/run-dry-2-in-1-womens-shorts-id_8520934.html

I like those 2 in 1 shorts but have yet to find a pair I’m happy with. These look nice. Do you find the inner short stays down? That’s nearly always my issue that they ride up? I might get to Decathlon on holidays so could pick up a pair.

ReeReeG wrote: »

I find the outer layer still rides up and it looks like I'm wearing baggy knickers over cycling shorts!

Ha ha - that sounds lovely. I wondered about that too actually. Maybe I should just stick to my skirts. They work for me

ReeReeG wrote: »

I find the outer layer still rides up and it looks like I'm wearing baggy knickers over cycling shorts!

I find the opposite - the cycling shorts ride up - well I suppose that means I’m just wearing the baggy knickers .

To be fair they didn’t ride up for while - until washed a bit.