George St. Pierre vrs Anserson Silva

MrStuffins wrote: »

I can't see past a GSP win here! I'd put my house on it!

I'll bet my house against your house that Anderson beats GSP! Deal?


















Disclaimer - I may not actually own my own house but I'll still allow you to take the bet! :P

MrStuffins wrote: »

I still don't consider GSP's tactic "boring", just because he doesn't finish, doesn't make him boring IMO.

Anyway f*ck Okami, if Jon Fitch beats BJ and doesn't get another shot it's an absolute disgrace! He's been beating everyone in the division and should've had a second shot by now IMO!

c'mon mate.....lets be honest here gsp hasnt had the most exciting fights recently....
put it dis way i dnt get that feeling of " here we go, the judges again" when bones jones ,guida or aldo are fighting !!!....altho im drifting from the first point i made re: his lack of ko power i jus feel goerge's WOW factor of finishing strong has faded ...hence 125 mins inside the octagon in his last 5 bouts....

riffmongous wrote: »

Aren't we all forgetting about the Belfort fight?:D

I don't blame Jackson for fights being boring, I think he looks at the match-up and picks what he thinks will be the easiest way for his fighter to win, playing the percentages. And the way the rules are, stifling wrestling is the safest way to get a win, if you have good wrestling ability. If you're not a good wrestler Jackson will come up with a different gameplan that plays to your strengths.
If Dana has a problem with Jackson fighters then he should look to change the rules rather than tell Jackson to change. And of course the only way to make sure you don't get released nowadays is to make sure you win every single fight. Like look at Fitch, Dana would love to cut him since he's 'boring', so Fitch needs to make sure he doesn't lose and to do that he grinds out a win which just feeds back to the original problem.

And since the Sonnen fight I don't see why GSP would try anything other than taking Silva down every round en route to a decision. It might be a superfight for us, but I'm sure GSP would look at it as another fight to win.

And as for the Okami-Fitch problem, I can see Dana ignoring both these guys

totoally agree wiv u mate regarding the scoring method.......especially when it sways in favour of a wrestler...maybe its time to re-evaluate the scoring.???....not that we'd get a say hahahaha
i dnt see the point in getting points scored a takedown if u do nothing with it...thats just my opinion as a jits guy....id be happy to be taken down so i could work my game...
theres two ways i see this going....
1. silva comes out gauging range and gsp's movement..then pounces,maybe even wit a strike weve never seen b4....pressure pressure pressure and gsp folds to punches in d first or second
2. it could be a repeat of the sonnoen bout except silva will lose via decision....
now im not confident enuf to put my house on this hahahahaha....

tyreman1 wrote: »

"VERY close to finishing kos".....isnt finishing a fight

True, but "can't finish" and "didn't finish" are 2 different things also.

"didnt finish Hardy was because Hardy was never gonna tap!".....thats like saying i couldnt knock em out cause he didnt av a glass jaw!

Not in the least! The vast VAST majority of submissions happen because a fighter knows he's in danger of going to sleep or having something broken and they tap. Hardy was in some very bad situations which 8 or 9 out of 10 fighters would've tapped to.

But part of the point here is, it's not as if he wasn't TRYING to finish. He was trying!

the fact of the matter here is, the guy is without doubt the No.1 in the world. These contenders come up, beating everyone in their way and don't even come close to GSP.

for instance, GSP didn't finish Jon Fitch right? do you think he should be criticised for this?

Jon Fitch has beaten EVERYONE he's ever gotten into the octagon with, if you exclude GSP. And Fitch has never looked in trouble in any fight either. He's elite. Yet GSP made him look very ordinary! I don't think GSP should be criticised for not finishing Fitch.... or anyone he fights in fairness.

Whenever GSP gets into the Octagon, he's fighting the mort elite fighters in the world.

If you have a guy like Bisping who is fighting cans and doesn't finish them, they maybe THAT'S warrented! But to criticise GSP for completely dominating but not finishing all of the elite fighters in the world, it's ridiculous in my opinion!

Has Vitor slowed down all that much? I'm not so sure!

And there's no reason why age would not be on Vitor's side as regards to quickness, he's still only 33 (with Anderson being 35).

it just seems he's much older because he's been around so so long!

Would Sonnen be a bigger favourite over GSP than Silva?

tyreman1 wrote: »

and who is dis frank trigg guy he finished?????? never heard of em lololol

I almost stopped listening after that, I definitely stopped after the "lololol"
Go watch Matt Hughes - Frank Trigg 1 and 2..

TheProdigy wrote: »

Either way I don't think Sonnen should be mentioned in such a circumstance as anything he has recognisably done at the top level has been surrounded by controversy.

Bit of an outlandish comment really, thats like saying everything Josh Barnett, Ken Shamrock, Shane Carwin, etc. shouldn't be mentioned as they've all been involved in steroids.

I guess Lance Armstrong shouldn't be mentioned in top cyclists since his testosterone tests were revealed :rolleyes:

Anyways, great video about the GSP - Hardy fight here

I can see this fight letting everybody down and being one big bore.

Both fighters will play it so careful i can see nothing but a borefest

TheProdigy wrote: »

I knew you would be responding to that at some time, we have previously identified in other threads that your rose tinted glasses for Mr. Sonnen are hampering your opinion on the facts. :rolleyes:

Whatever his medical condition he still had 4 times, iirc, the approved amount of testosterone in his body. I don't see why he couldn't inject himself with the required amount to bring him up to speed with the normal amount of testosterone in the average persons body, 4 times over the limit is controversial to say the least. Can you justify why he had 4 times the required limit in his system?

And I don't have any time or admiration for the above mentioned athletes either. Just because PED's are becoming more evident it shouldn't mean it is more acceptable or the fans should be less critical, its cheating.

I knew it was a trap :pac:

Sure, he was over the limit, but then you have to take away everyone's achievements if they've ever tested positive. Nate Marquardt, Shane Carwin's been linked to steroids, Lance Armstrong's amazingly high testosterone level.
I'm just saying that most of Sonnen's work was his own doing, sure, the steroids had some part to play, but not half as much as everyone makes out they did.

And your last point is completely true, PEDs are a form of cheating and should be clamped down on. Anyways, enough about "The Most Interesting Man In The World" :rolleyes:

GSP would demolish Silva imo, Silva's always had trouble with wrestlers and GSP wouldn't be foolish enough to get caught in a last round triangle choke, or try and stand with Anderson, he'd take him down and keep him there for the 5 rounds.

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Originally Posted by tyreman1
and who is dis frank trigg guy he finished?????? never heard of em lololol

ScareGilly wrote: »

I almost stopped listening after that, I definitely stopped after the "lololol"
Go watch Matt Hughes - Frank Trigg 1 and 2..

Pretty sure this was meant as a joke, very serious this MMA forum lololol!

I think Sonnen showed how to beat Silva take him down and ground and pound. Im not a big fan of either, GSP is too nice and Silva, well is just to ignorant to speak english for whatever reason, his english was fine when speaking to Rachel Leah when they had the half hour show about him in Brazil....
But then again id make the effort there to!

Anyways not their biggest fans but GSP's jits is way above Sonnens so i see him taking him down and keeping him there or just a lot of feints and circling and really boring with both afraid to commit.