Motorcycle FAQ

unklerosco · 26-08-2005 10:34pm

Bikeworld website??? waste of time, that used bike price list is at least 9 months old, like a lot of companies they have a web site but don't bother to look at it or update it, what a waste of time

a_ominous wrote:

Well since I suggested it, I'll start the ball rolling.

Licence
You need a licence to ride a bike. Here for some details.

Insurance
In Ireland, there are only 2 motorbike insurers, Hibernian and Carole Nash. If you're under 25, you can try Carole Nash but they generally only insure over 25s on bikes obver 250cc. You can get online quotes from Hibernian but only phone quotes from CN.

There are some brokers who deal with motorbike insurance. AON is the largest. They deal with Hibernian and offer discounts on the Hibernian price. Some of the bike shops can also sort your insurnace out. They have a deal with AON. Some examples of these bike shops:
Cotters
Bikeworld

There are 3 types of insurance:
Third Party (TP) - you pay for damages to you and your bike
Third Party, Fire and Theft. As above but also covers for fire and theft, strangely.
Fully Comprehensive. As above but also includes cover for damage to you and your bike.

Bikes are assigned a grouping by insurers. This is based on the power to weight ratio of the bike. So for example a 50cc 10 BHP scooter is group 1 and a 1300cc 150BHP sports bike would be group 12, and more expensive to insure. The differences between groups is small for riders over 40. A table of the prices is not available online at the moment.

Lessons
There are various places to learn to ride a bike. Irish School of Motoring (ISM) will provide bikes. As will the Star Rider courses run by Fingal and I believe South Dublin Co Council. These are not year round courses though. And there is a long waiting list for school bikes. Most independent trainers (Irish Rider Training Association IRTA) do not have bikes due to prohibitive insurance costs. This may change with driver instructor certification due in 2004.

Some URLs:
So you want to drive
Cotters
Bikeworld
Easy rider training good information
on bikes and training.
Irish rider training
Motorcycle news there reviews of bikes and gear.

steedevaney · 02-09-2005 12:20am

Hi all. I've just gotten a moped so I'm real new to the two wheel thing. Just wondering if any one would know why the engine doesn't seem to idle if I stop during the first mile or so after that it runs fine. It can also be difficult to start and usually has to be kicked started. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Hotblack Desiato · 03-09-2005 12:19pm

Sounds like you're not using the choke (if it has a manual choke) is the problem worse on a cooler day than a warmer one? Or, if there is an automatic choke, it's not working right.

galwaytt · 09-09-2005 1:10pm

...anyone done this? If so, please tell me where from, how much, what kind of bike did you get, etc.

Also, is there a demand for this service - trying to twist someone's arm in Galway to do this at the mo'............

tk123 · 09-09-2005 1:16pm

I got a bike from ISM for my test. It was a cb250 and it was €130 for 2 hours including a 1hr pre test...

Slaanesh · 03-11-2005 3:36pm

tk123 wrote:

I got a bike from ISM for my test. It was a cb250 and it was €130 for 2 hours including a 1hr pre test...

If you are not doing your test in Dublin, I am having mine in Navan, they charge 90 euro extra. 45 to bring the bike to Navan and 45 to bring it back.

My friend is getting a restricted bandit so I'm going to see if it would be cheaper to get insured on that for the week. The CB250 is a grand bike to drive though, had a lesson recently.

BRUNO.22 · 02-12-2005 8:44pm

Ism I Got A Couple Of Lessons With Them To Get Used To The Cb250.worst Bunch Of Ginits I Ever Dealt With...the Instructor Was Out In A Casual Leather Jacket And A Pair Of Slacks..what An Example He's Setting.plus My Pre Test Was Both Of Us Driving In And Out Of Traffic To Get Me To The Test Centre On Time After We Pulled In To Put Air In The Tyres Of The Test Bike.......irta All The Way!!!

tk123 · 02-12-2005 8:52pm

The 2 guys I had - Joe and Steven were really good but they seem to have a high turnaround of staff in there - the ones I had last year for my first test are all gone!!

BRUNO.22 · 02-12-2005 8:55pm

Is One Of Them A Scottish Fella Or From The North...he's Supposed To Be Good.drives A Bmw

tk123 · 02-12-2005 10:00pm

Yeah Joe drives the BMW and Steven drives a Varedaro(i think).

cutepape · 04-12-2005 12:33am

Going from Zero to a Full license in 5 lessons with Joe (He drives a lightgreen / yellowish BMW GS1150) was as simple as putting butter on a toast.
Steven has a Varadero and seems to be in the same class as Joe.
If you are willing to listen n learn.. they will make sure you know everything to pass your test. Thats my personal impression.
3 of my mates have done the same thing.. a week of lessons with Joe and then the test. They also passed.

If you go ISM... go with joe or steven.

As Bruno.22 mentioned... I've listen a little to one of the other instructors when I was waiting for my lesson, oh man.. he didn't even care, casual clothing, came on on the schools bike every day etc...

BRUNO.22 · 04-12-2005 9:24pm

I Also Forgot To Mention That They Start You Off On A Gravel Car Park...any Bikers Nightmare..hellllllooooo....

seamus · 05-12-2005 1:07am

Steven in ISM is an IRTA instructor too, gave me some great advice before my test, really helped me relax about the whole thing.

tk123 · 05-12-2005 10:28am

he bought be a sandwich to try and get me to relax when I was all nervous! lol! :v:

madrab · 05-12-2005 1:09pm

tk123 wrote:

he bought be a sandwich to try and get me to relax when I was all nervous! lol! :v:

to try to get you to relax eh??

tk123 · 05-12-2005 3:19pm

I was really nervous and hadn't eaten anything! I think he was worried I'd pass out halfway thru the test!!

Anyhoos if anyone is looking for some nice eats in churchtown theres this pub across the road from the test centre car park!

delboy_53 · 17-02-2006 1:25am

a tip for anyone buying gear .. no vat on lids in the uk so on to the web and buy from there, after figuring out the size of noggin down in you local kit store....also the uk is a much more competive market so prices on kit in general ar much better, I managed to save €120 euro on my chosen lid from harpers ... had good dealings with them ie.. i get me stuff

el D

ambro25 · 02-03-2006 2:38pm

I've just had a good look at the OP and the linkies from there, but I need a clarification, please: can I just apply for a first 'bike' provisional license, without any mention of my FR (car) license, i.e. by just submitting my FR passport as ID? (and obviously doing the theory test and all that - btw, any signs in Irish in the test?)

67coley67 · 22-05-2006 10:35am

if they keep snapping ,maybe the cable is badly routed or it may be from a similar bike/model but could be 50mm shorter

smoc · 08-06-2007 9:50pm

For those of you who dont already know...

Quinn Direct doing EXTREMELY CHEAP INSURANCE NOW!!!!

My insurance went from 1909 last year to 491 this year for the same bike. Only difference was i had an extra 1 years no claims.

Kat1170 · 28-10-2007 6:10pm

Ref. Insurance you could try Adelaide insurance on www.Bikequoteme.com online for UK only and as far as I know the phone number for Ireland is a UK number so beware long calls.

Ref. renting a bike for your test Naas SoM supply bikes for lessons and test.

jaycen · 03-09-2008 4:18pm

Kat1170 wrote: »

Ref. Insurance you could try Adelaide insurance on www.Bikequoteme.com online for UK only and as far as I know the phone number for Ireland is a UK number so beware long calls.

Ref. renting a bike for your test Naas SoM supply bikes for lessons and test.

www.bikequoteme.com is available in ROI now.

ShayK1 · 05-09-2008 12:20pm

I'd just like to point out that the link in the first post for ISM, points to ISM.com instead of ISM.ie

ISM.com = International Systems Marketing, Inc.
ISM.ie = Irish School of Motoring

eiji-the-second · 21-10-2008 4:20pm

heya.
just wondering if i'll get insured on my 70's honda 50 when i'm 16 and only have provisional... i do have a 92 honda 50 but wiuld like to ride the 70's one

Hotblack Desiato · 22-10-2008 12:47am

Carole Nash do classic insurance, on bikes over 250cc and you have to be over 21 and maybe even then have a full licence.

You can get a quote (from Aon, Quinn or Adelaide) on the 50, sure anyone can get a quote on anything, if they're licenced for it.. but it will be the same as a modern 50. At age 16, not cheap

You could try taking lessons and passing the test (on a hire bike) and at age 17 or 18 with a full licence you should get a more reasonable quote.

Lilliput69 · 22-10-2008 8:13am

Classic insurance with Carol Nash is for over 25's with a full licence for bikes over 15 yrs old, you can have mutiply bikes on hte classic policy

jaycen · 23-10-2008 10:00am

Lilliput69 wrote: »

Classic insurance with Carol Nash is for over 25's with a full licence for bikes over 15 yrs old, you can have mutiply bikes on hte classic policy

And 2 years NCB from what I understand.

DePurpereWolf · 23-02-2009 8:30pm

I'm going to ask a really stupid question now.

If I have a full licence, I don't have to get an A-licence or an A1-licence?

I can just add it to it?

btw, I have a Dutch full licence, which I plan to exchange for an Irish one. I just want to know what it'll get me.

I can't even drive a moped on my full driver's licence in NL. :rolleyes:

tk123 · 23-02-2009 9:36pm

DePurpereWolf wrote: »

I'm going to ask a really stupid question now.

If I have a full licence, I don't have to get an A-licence or an A1-licence?

I can just add it to it?

btw, I have a Dutch full licence, which I plan to exchange for an Irish one. I just want to know what it'll get me.

I can't even drive a moped on my full driver's licence in NL. :rolleyes:

you have to do either the A or A1 test (do A) and once you pass it gets added to your current license.

DePurpereWolf · 23-02-2009 10:38pm

I see here I can drive a <50CC moped under an M licence.

Woohee. :cool:

The ‘M’ Learner Permit is strictly for mopeds, or engine-assisted bicycles, under 50cc with a top speed of below 45kmp /28mph and is available from 16. The holders of a full ‘B’ licence, with additional insurance, can also drive mopeds.

http://www.msa-ireland.com/licenses.htm#drivingtest

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