Heavyweight Boxing

squinn2912 · 12-12-2020 9:25pm

I’m enjoying this fight so far interesting contrast of styles. Bakole better earlier on but Kuzmin is very capable on the inside and medium range.

OmegaGene · 12-12-2020 9:28pm

Kuzmin is catching him with some heavy shots but it doesn’t seem to be phasing bakole

walshb · 12-12-2020 9:29pm

There’s a thread on this card tonight..

StringerBell · 12-12-2020 9:36pm

I'm watching it on my IPTV and very happy I haven't paid a penny for this card specifically. A joke of a card, Hearn just keeps bending the public over and seemingly keeps getting away with it.

Looking forward to the main event though and even the Fury fight I guess.

Edit: I must be in the minority though, I don't think AJ chin is dodgy per say. I think he gets himself into situations where he gets caught and that makes his fights exciting because there is a danger that comes with that but bar the Ruiz one, where he was clearly ****ed and barely knew where he was from that left hook that concussed him he has come through all the tests of his chin and I'd say that kind of punch shouldn't really count against a fighters "chin"

I am looking forward to the fight more so to see the approach of AJ to it, I think if he goes in there and commits to being aggressive and trying to make a statement he gets it over in 2. If not I'd still be pretty surprised if it goes beyond round 8, Pulev is too easy to hit I think at this stage of his career.

eagle eye · 12-12-2020 9:58pm

Pulev is too slow and is easily hit too. It won't last long, Pulev is tough so I'd guess five or six rounds max.
Joshua can keep him at distance early until he catches him a few times and then step it up.

gypsy79 · 12-12-2020 11:05pm

StringerBell wrote: »

I'm watching it on my IPTV and very happy I haven't paid a penny for this card specifically. A joke of a card, Hearn just keeps bending the public over and seemingly keeps getting away with it.

Two very stromg undercard fights compared to some fights

Go watch UFC

gypsy79 · 13-12-2020 12:17am

Just as well the judges dont see the highlights

58-55 after 6

yourdeadwright · 13-12-2020 12:22am

As i expected Pulev has the European almost Olympic style he wants to win the fight from the outisde and its never going to be the way to beat AJ

iebamm2580 · 13-12-2020 9:19am

best of seen joshua i think, tightens the odds against fury who i still think will win htough as Joshua's jab advantage will be gone and he will have to take more risks to get at fury.

StringerBell · 13-12-2020 1:15pm

gypsy79 wrote: »

Two very stromg undercard fights compared to some fights

Go watch UFC

What an odd post.

squinn2912 · 13-12-2020 1:29pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

best of seen joshua i think, tightens the odds against fury who i still think will win htough as Joshua's jab advantage will be gone and he will have to take more risks to get at fury.

Calm down big guy. He was up against precious little. He did the job impressively enough but I’d have the Wlad and AP wins well ahead of that.

StringerBell · 13-12-2020 1:56pm

squinn2912 wrote: »

Calm down big guy. He was up against precious little. He did the job impressively enough but I’d have the Wlad and AP wins well ahead of that.

Yeah Pulev was game but well past his best, AJ looked to be hesitant at times, I think he wanted to work on his patience and I suppose is still trying to find a balance between boxing and fighting.

His instinct is to go for the kill but he empties the tank too fast when he does that, it took him at least 2 rounds to recover after trying to get him out of there in the 3rd - in fairness to him his instincts were right there and Pulev did well to see out that round but it was good experience for him to have to wait to get the KO I think.

A good performance, more assured than v Ruiz and now he can push on again maybe, unless he can develop his own lateral movement a bit though I'm not sure he's ever going to be a combo puncher, more a try hit you hard with a one two or a single and if your in trouble swarm. Which is fine, he has the size to box behind the jab and keep the fight long.

iebamm2580 · 13-12-2020 2:26pm

squinn2912 wrote: »

Calm down big guy. He was up against precious little. He did the job impressively enough but I’d have the Wlad and AP wins well ahead of that.

Think his shot selection was much better and his uppercut looked particularly good, still back fury though.

blade1 · 13-12-2020 3:13pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Think his shot selection was much better and his uppercut looked particularly good, still back fury though.

His uppercut was always good.
Remember him nearly separating Klitschko's head from his shoulders?

iebamm2580 · 13-12-2020 3:16pm

blade1 wrote: »

His uppercut was always good.
Remember him nearly separating Klitschko's head from his shoulders?

yeah i know but he used it alot last night, be hard to do that against fury as he wont have the space with fury leaning on him.

blade1 · 13-12-2020 3:20pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

yeah i know but he used it alot last night, be hard to do that against fury as he wont have the space with fury leaning on him.

I don't know, maybe in close he'll land the perfect uppercut.
I wonder how fury stands up to it if or when he does land it.
Interesting match up anyway.

iebamm2580 · 13-12-2020 3:24pm

blade1 wrote: »

I don't know, maybe in close he'll land the perfect uppercut.
I wonder how fury stands up to it if or when he does land it.
Interesting match up anyway.

fury tooks wilders best, and most analysts would agree wilder hits harder then joshua, i think ajs gas tank with fury leaning and roughing him up will be interesting, fury seems to have ridiculous tank and rarely seems tired.

walshb · 13-12-2020 4:19pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

fury tooks wilders best, and most analysts would agree wilder hits harder then joshua, i think ajs gas tank with fury leaning and roughing him up will be interesting, fury seems to have ridiculous tank and rarely seems tired.

He did not take Wilder’s best...

He took his best in the two fights..

Wilder has landed heavier and better shots on others...

iebamm2580 · 13-12-2020 4:21pm

walshb wrote: »

He did not take Wilder’s best...

He took his best in the two fights..

Wilder has landed heavier and better shots on others...

wilder landed a sharp left just as fury was going down from the first shot in the 12th and he still got up, would you think aj would take them? we wont get into fury as we disagree on him, i betmy mortgage on it that you think aj will beat fury.

walshb · 13-12-2020 4:56pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

wilder landed a sharp left just as fury was going down from the first shot in the 12th and he still got up, would you think aj would take them? we wont get into fury as we disagree on him, i betmy mortgage on it that you think aj will beat fury.

I have AJ to win via KO

But this is a tough fight to call for various reasons..No side should be really confident.

Fury has size, durability, fitness, and innate fighting talent..

I would not be putting too much on an AJ win..

I would be somewhat confident that AJ, if he lands really clean, can badly hurt Fury to allow him to get the finish..AJ a far better overall puncher than Wilder..

But, Fury can possibly avoid real heavy clean shots to survive and win himself..

It’s that type of fight of styles..

iebamm2580 · 13-12-2020 7:04pm

walshb wrote: »

I have AJ to win via KO

But this is a tough fight to call for various reasons..No side should be really confident.

Fury has size, durability, fitness, and innate fighting talent..

I would not be putting too much on an AJ win..

I would be somewhat confident that AJ, if he lands really clean, can badly hurt Fury to allow him to get the finish..AJ a far better overall puncher than Wilder..

But, Fury can possibly avoid real heavy clean shots to survive and win himself..

It’s that type of fight of styles..

thats fair enough, think fury wears down aj and he gasses 7-10.

blade1 · 13-12-2020 7:13pm

I only realised when the fight ended that I had no commentary for the fight.
Far better, wish it was like that all the time instead of listening to the usual plonkers!

Butson · 13-12-2020 8:36pm

blade1 wrote: »

I only realised when the fight ended that I had no commentary for the fight.
Far better, wish it was like that all the time instead of listening to the usual plonkers!

Best bet is to watch it but listen to Mike Costello on BBC 5 Live, best commentator in any sport.

yourdeadwright · 13-12-2020 10:44pm

AJ has a couple of coaches now or is it even 3?
Rob, Able and is there another?

His performance looked like a couple of styles mixed and matched but not in anyway fluid way, It was like he wasnt sure which to go with and came across disjointed at times

That could be a big problem in there with a more lIve opponent, he wont have time to be think and reset himself

I just think Fury is naturally a better boxer and fighter and no matter what at happens will find a way to overcome AJ

walshb · 13-12-2020 10:50pm

From a boxing perspective with AJ, I think the fans are in a great position here..

We get AJ v Usyk or AJ v Fury next...

Either fight here is a top 5 wish across all weights..

robwen · 01-02-2021 10:40am

Boxing & the Mob, BBC 1 9pm tonight.
Darragh McIntyre investigates the role of the alleged head of one of Europe's biggest drug cartels in the upcoming heavyweight title fight between Tyson Fury & Anthony Joshua

walshb · 01-02-2021 10:55am

robwen wrote: »

Boxing & the Mob, BBC 1 9pm tonight.
Darragh McIntyre investigates the role of the alleged head of one of Europe's biggest drug cartels in the upcoming heavyweight title fight between Tyson Fury & Anthony Joshua

Panorama Special I think...

generalgerry · 01-02-2021 10:28pm

Everybody getting dragged in to this... Warren, Hearn, Saunders, Fury. All the top names in British boxing.

walshb · 01-02-2021 10:40pm

generalgerry wrote: »

Everybody getting dragged in to this... Warren, Hearn, Saunders, Fury. All the top names in British boxing.

That’s because they are all complicit.

Macklin heavily involved for years, yet Sky seem to have no issue.

ASOT · 01-02-2021 10:45pm

Barry Mcguigans like a jealous ex girlfriend

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