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Blow jobs - womans perspective

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ryan7


    If you don't get much pleasure giving oral but you like receiving it you could try 69.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I heard this too many times to enjoy ever giving a blowjob:

    eg. a guy speaking annoyed about some other guy "if he doesn't like it well he can suck my dick!"

    That and rap songs and comedian routines degrading women who don't suck dick, men should talk about oral like it's something sacred, if they want women to want to do it for them and not feel degraded


    I never gave one until I absolutely had to and it was the one time I wished the guy's penis was smaller.

    Everyone is saying "don't let anyone pressure you into it" but I got dumped once for not giving them, so when this guy was asking and asking I finally thought I'd do this to get it over with. He's mentioned it since but I am not ready to try again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭drumaneen


    I can well understand the reluctance of women re BJ's. The issue of hygiene has got to be a bit of a lottery particularly given the very low number of Iriah men who are circumcised. The Americans know much better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    it's obvious that the op has a phobia about sex, or is unsure of their own sexuality!!!

    exact same as this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055500219


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    I heard this too many times to enjoy ever giving a blowjob:

    eg. a guy speaking annoyed about some other guy "if he doesn't like it well he can suck my dick!"

    That and rap songs and comedian routines degrading women who don't suck dick, men should talk about oral like it's something sacred, if they want women to want to do it for them and not feel degraded

    So, wait... you're using rap music and other people's slag as an excuse not to perform oral sex? That's ridiculous.

    If you have issues with giving oral, that's fine - but don't be blaming popular culture for it. It's only degrading if YOU think it is, who cares what rappers say? Why let them ruin what is a wonderful sexual act? Humans have been doing it long before rap came around.

    I personally don't understand how giving a guy pleasure - having him like putty in your hands (or mouth as the case may be) is degrading. It's such a power trip. So I don't buy this "it's degrading" business. Sounds like a rather convenient excuse to me.

    Everyone is saying "don't let anyone pressure you into it" but I got dumped once for not giving them, so when this guy was asking and asking I finally thought I'd do this to get it over with. He's mentioned it since but I am not ready to try again.

    So tell him that, and tell him your REAL reason for not liking it. Don't fob him off with some moralistic crap about rappers and the media ruining it for everyone. You're inexperienced, you don't like doing it, you're not ready to try it again.
    drumaneen wrote: »
    I can well understand the reluctance of women re BJ's. The issue of hygiene has got to be a bit of a lottery particularly given the very low number of Iriah men who are circumcised. The Americans know much better.

    Just cos a man is uncircumcised doesn't mean he doesn't wash himself. I've yet to come across a guy who was truly unhygenic in that area.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Well the issue is, I was a late bloomer, and a bit sheltered, and I had never heard of a blowjob being an actual sexual act between loving people. I figured it was a schoolboy joke, guys saying "suck my dick" etc.

    When I realized that there were guys who actually wanted me to do it, I couldn't have been more surprised and upset if they had wanted me to kiss their ass.

    And if it felt so good for them, why use it as an insult? It just put me off it. I mean it's not like girls go around saying "suck my ****"

    The rappers & comedians never put me off it in the first place, they just annoy me and remind me how inadequate I apparently am in bed


  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    When I was younger, it did not seem to be standard sexual practice, maybe men are bolder and ask more for it now, idk but it seems to be like I am from another planet if I don't like do do oral, and it was not that way 15 years ago (when I was in my 20s)

    It seems to be like cleaning the bathroom, everyone has to do it, not everyone enjoys it, but people have to find a way to get through it. Maybe that's how I have to look at it. Because it does seem harder to find a guy who doesn't ask, and they are willing to give you the boot if you don't do it. (or ask about it 928347892734 times)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    it's obvious that the op has a phobia about sex, or is unsure of their own sexuality!!!
    How the heck is it "obvious"? She hasn't enjoyed giving oral yet - one sex act out of many - so that means she has a phobia about sex in general?!
    And not enjoying fellatio means there's a possibility she's therefore a lesbian? LOL
    If you think a hetero woman should automatically like sucking cock simply because she fancies men, well you've a fair bit to learn.
    Yes, I think most people have spotted that. That thread was started as a dig against the OP of this thread by someone who shares your view that it's shocking for a woman to find giving head unappealing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Loxosceles


    I heard this too many times to enjoy ever giving a blowjob:

    eg. a guy speaking annoyed about some other guy "if he doesn't like it well he can suck my dick!"

    That and rap songs and comedian routines degrading women who don't suck dick, men should talk about oral like it's something sacred, if they want women to want to do it for them and not feel degraded


    I never gave one until I absolutely had to and it was the one time I wished the guy's penis was smaller.

    Everyone is saying "don't let anyone pressure you into it" but I got dumped once for not giving them, so when this guy was asking and asking I finally thought I'd do this to get it over with. He's mentioned it since but I am not ready to try again.

    Sex is just as much about power for men as it is pleasure for women. This is biological instinct, and it needs to remain in check and acknowledged so that it has an appropriate outlet. The fact is, women (who are without psychological barriers) actually derive more pleasure from sex than men do, (we have 2 major pleasure spots instead of 1!) and therefore men tend to shunt the remaining desire for pleasure to their ego. This is why a woman can get 10 orgasms out of one session and men often feel instinctively that they have to spread their seed with different women in order to derive the same pleasure, or dominate the woman they're with. Only a man who can acknowledge and keep this instinct in check deserves to recieve the service.

    The fact is, the male psychological association with oral is always a power/servitude thing, and a domination/submission thing. Much more so than regular sex which mutually pushes pleasure buttons equally located in both partners. If a man says "If you love me you'll suck my..." it actually means, "If you love me, you'll submit to me to make me feel better" which needs to be nipped in the bud and set on a basis of equality. The "If you love me you'll do x" preamble to any statement on part of a man deserves a good hearty shove out the door.

    If you want to see how the male pecking order uses oral as a domination/submission thing, just look at what goes on in jails.

    However, there is also the fact that oral is very pleasurable, so for me it is done under a couple of basic rules to keep things equal.

    No man gets oral unless he is a) lying down and not standing up, because I don't want to suggest domination to his psyche at any level which he may start to instinctively push, he's b) squeaky clean, and c) does the job with me first.

    Simple enough. Equal enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Well personally, I love giving my boyfriend a BJ, it turns me on. love it!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭carlybabe1


    ya but ya cant tell someone to wash themselves everytime or they would get offended!!!

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    GOOD JESUS!!!!! Ye shouldnt have to ask at all, decency should predict that he wouldnt wait to be asked!!!! holy crap,

    and if i was to do it i would be liable to have to ask them everytime!!

    i dont know im just a weird one!! i dont think i would be easily pushed into doing it either so no need to worry on that aspect of things!!

    maybe i just had a bad experience and should try it again...[/quote]

    Hell yes if the above is anythin to go by.....You really should try it again..its quite a turn on to have your man squirming ecstatically in front of you............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Loxosceles wrote: »
    This is why a woman can get 10 orgasms out of one session and men often feel instinctively that they have to spread their seed with different women in order to derive the same pleasure, or dominate the woman they're with. Only a man who can acknowledge and keep this instinct in check deserves to recieve the service.

    Not all men are sexually dominante and there are many who are boarderline
    and never know it or acknowledge it and to make such sweeping statement is unhelpful.
    Loxosceles wrote: »
    The fact is, the male psychological association with oral is always a power/servitude thing, and a domination/submission thing.

    No it is not.
    Some times a blowjob is just a blowjob and about getting your partner off in a manner they they enjoy and ideal you enjoy as well.

    It can be used in part of dominant and submissive play.

    Any either party can be in those roles, there have been men that I haven known who tought that a woman in a Ds sexual encounter giving a blow job
    must be the submissive on the receiving end, they were swift to learn other wise and when shown the difference between a dominant blowjob, a submissive blowjob and just a blowjob with out the mutual mental headfúck that there was a vast difference in the experience.

    Loxosceles wrote: »
    If you want to see how the male pecking order uses oral as a domination/submission thing, just look at what goes on in jails.

    Huge difference in the consenting relationship between two 'mature' adult
    and what goes on in male jails.

    However, there is also the fact that oral is very pleasurable, so for me it is done under a couple of basic rules to keep things equal.
    Loxosceles wrote: »
    No man gets oral unless he is a) lying down and not standing up, because I don't want to suggest domination to his psyche at any level which he may start to instinctively push, he's b) squeaky clean, and c) does the job with me first.

    Simple enough. Equal enough.

    That is your preferences and hang ups and not those of other people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    It seems to be like cleaning the bathroom, everyone has to do it, not everyone enjoys it, but people have to find a way to get through it. Maybe that's how I have to look at it. Because it does seem harder to find a guy who doesn't ask, and they are willing to give you the boot if you don't do it. (or ask about it 928347892734 times)
    That's horrendous - in a loving, respectful relationship, at best you'd enjoy doing it for your partner; at worst your partner would try to understand if you've issues with it.
    Loxosceles wrote: »
    Sex is just as much about power for men as it is pleasure for women. This is biological instinct, and it needs to remain in check and acknowledged so that it has an appropriate outlet. The fact is, women (who are without psychological barriers) actually derive more pleasure from sex than men do, (we have 2 major pleasure spots instead of 1!) and therefore men tend to shunt the remaining desire for pleasure to their ego. This is why a woman can get 10 orgasms out of one session and men often feel instinctively that they have to spread their seed with different women in order to derive the same pleasure, or dominate the woman they're with. Only a man who can acknowledge and keep this instinct in check deserves to recieve the service.

    The fact is, the male psychological association with oral is always a power/servitude thing, and a domination/submission thing. Much more so than regular sex which mutually pushes pleasure buttons equally located in both partners. If a man says "If you love me you'll suck my..." it actually means, "If you love me, you'll submit to me to make me feel better" which needs to be nipped in the bud and set on a basis of equality. The "If you love me you'll do x" preamble to any statement on part of a man deserves a good hearty shove out the door.
    Ah now, that's a bit much - I just love the enjoyment he gets out of it, nothing more. No need to make it too political.
    carlybabe1 wrote: »
    i dont know im just a weird one!!
    Well that's the other side - by calling yourself "weird" you're just caving in to those who think "a woman who doesn't enjoy sucking cock is abnormal". Some people like doing it, some people don't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,507 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I heard this too many times to enjoy ever giving a blowjob:

    eg. a guy speaking annoyed about some other guy "if he doesn't like it well he can suck my dick!"

    I don't know how you relate this to it being demeaning for you to perform it. That phrase is linked to many other phrases used by men to insult a stranger or slag a mate as part of banter.

    "You're looking a bit gay right now", "He's a cocksucker", etc. To me that taps into a latent homophobia that exists between straight men rather than out of disrespect for women. The whole insinuation is that the guy performs sexual acts on other men which would so be considered something to be shameful for. (which of course shouldn't be the case).

    I don't see any connection between these oral sex related insults and disrespect for women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭cherrypicker555


    is anyone else like me!!

    it just repulses me - tried it once never again!!

    am i the only one?? Are there females out there who actually physically enjoy giving them??



    Yer but they are good for the complexion, its high in protein.

    Bad girls dont complain they just swallow :P


    Infact I could not go out with a girl who refused to.

    You just need to watch enough porn till you totally become desensatised to your inhibition and let the bad girl come out in you ha.

    Problem is when it comes to sex Ireland is still v inhibited, yet to see an Irish girl in a porn film, there are no legal swingers clubs and escorts go to jail.

    Still its getting better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Actually how blowjobs is displayed in porn is off putting to a lot of women. The majority of mainstream porn is about 'standard' male fantasy and not about what women want at all esp when it looks like someone is having their face raped, had little or no control over the situation and is being made to gag.

    All of the above is acceptable in terms of what consenting adults do but
    they are far from standard and should not be done with out prior agreement
    and express consent.

    So I do understand why a lot of women consider it off putting in terms
    of the mental and emotional never mind the physical.

    I consider blow jobs to be what I see in porn and what I like to do to to a consenting male partner
    I consider to be the art of fellatio and there is a huge difference between the two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭cherrypicker555


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Actually how blowjobs is displayed in porn is off putting to a lot of women. The majority of mainstream porn is about 'standard' male fantasy and not about what women want at all esp when it looks like someone is having their face raped, had little or no control over the situation and is being made to gag.

    All of the above is acceptable in terms of what consenting adults do but
    they are far from standard and should not be done with out prior agreement
    and express consent.

    So I do understand why a lot of women consider it off putting in terms
    of the mental and emotional never mind the physical.

    I consider blow jobs to be what I see in porn and what I like to do to to a consenting male partner
    I consider to be the art of fellatio and there is a huge difference between the two.



    Swallowing is not standard in a relationship ? Thats debatable, but it is normal.

    I could never go out with a women who did not like porn, it would be a bad sign.

    Most women I have met who dont like porn are too inhibited.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Swallowing is not standard in a relationship ? Thats debatable, but it is normal.

    What is normal in any sexual relationship is defined by the consenting adults in it.
    I could never go out with a women who did not like porn, it would be a bad sign.
    Most women I have met who dont like porn are too inhibited.

    I have seen more then enough porn over the years to have discriminating tastes and to know better to make sweeping generalisations about what pron
    is and it's content. I do dislike most of the mainstream porn and I am totally
    entitled to do so as that is a personal preference and taste.

    There is always some classification of porn that a person doesn't' like and
    not liking it doesn't make them inhibited.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Loxosceles


    Problem is when it comes to sex Ireland is still v inhibited, yet to see an Irish girl in a porn film, there are no legal swingers clubs and escorts go to jail.

    Still its getting better.

    There needs to be more porn and more swingers and NO escorts. As for escorts here, they are completely ignored compared to the sweeps done in the US, are you kidding?

    I stopped using Adult Friendfinder when I moved here because in Ireland it's used as a hooker site, not a site for enlightened, open-minded sexually liberated people to meet and start relationships. Nope. Does not exist here. And I learned fast that I was getting treated like sh!t by Irish when I met up at the pub and got nothing but 'so when are we going back to your gaff' ad infinitum, delivered with zero smoothness or charisma, so I quit. No sexual liberation here, apparently, unless you try with a personal ad and end up bowled over by five hundred desperate guys who want a shag-n-dump. Ew, no thank you. Pass.

    There are more equal listings in the US with a ratio of about 4 male to 1 female, almost all of which are put down as either 'single' or 'couple' but almost never a single partner listed as 'married'. The Irish AFF listings were instead the precise opposite: men outnumber women's listings 16 to 1, (133,000 to 7,000) more than half of them are single men listing themselves as 'married', and instead of being open-minded as more Americans are wont to do, they all want strictly 'no-strings'. In essence, it's a johns database for every hooker and cathouse in Ireland to spam men for business, and they do just that- even with weekly specials added in. And Revenue just ignooooores awaaaaay. That doesn't happen in our country, we're moral people!

    If Ireland were less sexually inhibited like America, using an escort would be something that a man found shameful and embarrassing because he obviously wouldn't have the charisma to get any pu$$y without paying for it. It mystifies me how Irish men brag about using escorts to their mates, I've heard it!

    It's freaky-deeky, especially since in my attempts to date here which ended at his refusal to wear a condom, a lot of Irish men are averse to condoms since they can irritate the foreskin. It takes just one cream pie with just one angry trafficked Lithuanian hooker who is being beaten up on one end and used on the other, and heypresto, HIV for everyone, unregulated and ignored and undetected for years until it's been spread to god knows how many clueless punters and their more clueless obedient Catholic wives who, in about 10 years, will be begging family GPs all over the country to put down the official diagnosis as leukaemia. Just wait till the actual scope of the effect of HIV on this country is really felt in a decade- it can take that long for it to even show up in someone's bloodstream.

    There's a sticky here on the subject...from 2003. I'm not sure if people can comprehend the danger of HIV mixed in with an uninformed, inhibited population of people who can't communicate about sex.

    I would venture to say that if anything, Ireland is WAY more dangerous and potentially disastrous re HIV given the trafficked women, the ignorance and attitudes which are still present.

    So yes, if anything, Ireland needs MORE blowjobs, but more condoms as well just in case she doesn't like giving them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Bad girls dont complain they just swallow :P
    Yes, the bitch doesn't complain - she just does as she's told, mouth shut, legs open. Seriously, would ya listen to yourself?
    You just need to watch enough porn till you totally become desensatised to your inhibition and let the bad girl come out in you ha.
    Sorry, if you think it's that simple you've a LOT to learn.
    Swallowing is not standard in a relationship ? Thats debatable, but it is normal.
    Where did she say that? She said:
    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Actually how blowjobs is displayed in porn is off putting to a lot of women. The majority of mainstream porn is about 'standard' male fantasy and not about what women want at all esp when it looks like someone is having their face raped, had little or no control over the situation and is being made to gag.
    And I can't see what's "abnormal" about not wanting to swallow. Not everyone's crazy about the idea of swallowing another person's secretion. What does the idea do for you? (Please don't say you're not gay - that is irrelevant).
    I could never go out with a women who did not like porn, it would be a bad sign.

    Most women I have met who dont like porn are too inhibited.
    Seriously, I can't see the logic in that. Women (and men too) tend not to like porn because it's extremely cold, un-erotic, mechanical, crass, aggressive, based on male fantasies rather than female. If a person dislikes all of that unpleasantness, they're unadventurous/a prude?
    Thaedydal wrote:
    I consider blow jobs to be what I see in porn and what I like to do to to a consenting male partner I consider to be the art of fellatio and there is a huge difference between the two.
    Which would you prefer? A joyless porno blow-job or experiencing the art of fellatio?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Terodil


    Dudess wrote: »
    Seriously, I can't see the logic in that. Women (and men too) tend not to like porn because it's extremely cold, un-erotic, mechanical, crass, aggressive, based on male fantasies rather than female.
    Actually, I would like to contest that. From my experience (which is rather limited as I, a man, don't particularly like porn), there are myriads of different kinds of porn and I don't think they can be simply labelled as 'male fantasy' or 'female fantasy'.

    Secondly, I resent the implied meaning that male fantasies are generally extremely cold, un-erotic, mechanical, crass and aggressive, while female fantasies are... what? loving, caring, consensual and fluffy pink?

    Anyway, whether it's a woman giving head to a man or the other way round, if you don't really like it it's perfectly normal and you should not give in to pressure by your partner. If you want to do it but feel icky then maybe you should give it a couple of tries. And if you enjoy it, then all the better, have fun, but don't expect reciprocity as that's a recipe for disaster.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, I found it difficult to get used to even the idea of bjs at first. I just thought, 'he pees from there!' (I was 17, though I suppose that is no excuse). lol.

    But we took it slowly. I wanted to try it to see what it was like, but I wasnt prepared for the whole she-bang, so we started with me licking and kissing. I know that helped me a huge amount to get used to it, even just the idea of it. Maybe you could take that approach?

    Now I like giving him bjs! I found it took a while to get used to, and physically make sure you are in a comfortable position and just take it slowly. Dont let him dicatate it. If he gets impatient tell him you are just not ready for the whole thing yet, but it will be worth the wait! Personally, I dont find the act itself is a turn-on, its the effect. I love the feeling of giving him great pleasure!

    BUT!!!! As other posters have said before, dont do anything you dont want to do, or feel that you have to do. There are loads of other ways to get him turned on! Maybe wait to do it with someone who will help you to see that it is enjoyable for both parties?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    OP, I found it difficult to get used to even the idea of bjs at first. I just thought, 'he pees from there!' (I was 17, though I suppose that is no excuse).
    Of course it's an excuse - makes perfect sense. I doubt most inexperienced teenage girls' dream fantasy is sucking what is, as you said, an excretory organ.
    But we took it slowly. I wanted to try it to see what it was like, but I wasnt prepared for the whole she-bang, so we started with me licking and kissing. I know that helped me a huge amount to get used to it, even just the idea of it.
    Same here - LOVE doing that for him still as a build-up. Drives him insane. :)
    Personally, I dont find the act itself is a turn-on, its the effect. I love the feeling of giving him great pleasure!
    That's probably the case across the board among those who enjoy it (mostly).
    Terodil wrote: »
    Actually, I would like to contest that. From my experience (which is rather limited as I, a man, don't particularly like porn), there are myriads of different kinds of porn and I don't think they can be simply labelled as 'male fantasy' or 'female fantasy'.
    I'm taking for granted cherrypicker555 was referring to your run-of-the-mill hardcore porn. I know I should find the idea of e.g. a guy coming up a girl's ass and then another girl drinking it out oh so appealing, but eh... I don't. So I guess I'm on a par with a nun.
    Secondly, I resent the implied meaning that male fantasies are generally extremely cold, un-erotic, mechanical, crass and aggressive
    That's not what I meant - I'm not saying it's all males' fantasy but it is a male fantasy.
    while female fantasies are... what? loving, caring, consensual and fluffy pink?
    Eh, right... because of course there's only "extremely cold, un-erotic, mechanical, crass and aggressive" and "loving, caring, consensual and fluffy pink" and no in-between. And yes, generally males would be more likely to go for the former than females.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭cherrypicker555


    Dudess wrote: »
    I'm taking for granted cherrypicker555 was referring to your run-of-the-mill hardcore porn. I know I should find the idea of e.g. a guy coming up a girl'ls ass and then another girl drinking it out oh so appealing, but eh... I don't. So I guess I'm on a par with a nun.

    That's not what I meant - I'm not saying it's all males' fantasy but it is a male fantasy.

    Eh, right... because of course there's only "extremely cold, un-erotic, mechanical, crass and aggressive" and "loving, caring, consensual and fluffy pink" and no in-between. And yes, generally males would be more likely to go for the former than females.


    Well they say guys are more visually stimulated, girls more through touch.

    In terms of porn/debachery its about loss of inhibition to the point to doing nearly anything. For me seeing a female in that altered state of conciousness/massive sexual high is a real turn on, totally letting go takes alot of trust.


    Its a far more primitive type of sex, romance has its place as well in a relationship, but for me as a guy lust is where its at, especially if you keep taking one step further and further, its also quite dangerous. Look what happened to the Maquis de Sade, ha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yep. i love giving them. It turns me on loads and makes himself happy as larry. Everyone is different tho. Some of my friends hate it too. Its just a personal preference..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Well they say guys are more visually stimulated, girls more through touch.
    Yep. That's why I don't think a woman who's not a fan of porn is necessarily inhibited.
    In terms of porn/debachery its about loss of inhibition to the point to doing nearly anything. For me seeing a female in that altered state of conciousness/massive sexual high is a real turn on, totally letting go takes alot of trust.


    Its a far more primitive type of sex, romance has its place as well in a relationship, but for me as a guy lust is where its at, especially if you keep taking one step further and further, its also quite dangerous. Look what happened to the Maquis de Sade, ha.
    Well that's cool if it's what you're into, and going by your thread here, you'll only engage in it with a woman whom you know is on the same page... but on this thread earlier, you were going on as if a woman who isn't into really OTT sh1t is a prude.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭cherrypicker555


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yep. That's why I don't think a woman who's not a fan of porn is necessarily inhibited.

    Well that's cool if it's what you're into, and going by your thread here, you'll only engage in it with a woman whom you know is on the same page... but on this thread earlier, you were going on as if a woman who isn't into really OTT sh1t is a prude.


    It goes back to the old adage,advenerous sex is lots of fun with the right person, but with someone you totally love and are on the same wavelength with its totally electric.

    Im a guy, I take it where its going :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Well they say guys are more visually stimulated, girls more through touch.

    In terms of porn/debachery its about loss of inhibition to the point to doing nearly anything. For me seeing a female in that altered state of conciousness/massive sexual high is a real turn on, totally letting go takes alot of trust.

    Finding some one who understand the complexities of that, the risks and aftercare is just as hard.
    Its a far more primitive type of sex, romance has its place as well in a relationship, but for me as a guy lust is where its at, especially if you keep taking one step further and further, its also quite dangerous. Look what happened to the Maquis de Sade, ha.

    Well isn't that part of the point of a long term relationship that delicious decent into debachery ?

    de Sade's problems were his lack of discretion and the politics at the time.

    But can we please get this back on topic and helpful to the op.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,247 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    zuroph, you may wish to re-familiarise yourself with PI rules regarding unhelpful posts. They can be found in the charter at the top of the forum.


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