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Hurricane KATIA

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭unitedrover


    irishgeo wrote: »
    have 2 hurricanes/tropical storms ever collided?

    Ive no knowledge of storm formations but would they merge together to form a superstorm? sounds a bit like The Day After Tommorrow with this.

    Hopefully someone can correct me on this


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,369 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    I think its very unlikely that Katia will end up heading for Gulf of Mexico. The area on that map in the Gulf where a new storm may be the forming (most models show it developing over the next few days). Because Katia is so far away from the Gulf, the future "Lee" storm will already have gone through its lifecycle and would have already made landfall by the time Katia got there, if Katia was going in that direction, nothing suggests it will.

    The answer to your second question is called the Fujiwhara effect! :D
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujiwhara_effect

    reading that is says hurricane iris was put off track by the fujiwhara effect and ended in the uk. is this the hurricane michael fish got so badly wrong?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    irishgeo wrote: »
    reading that is says hurricane iris was put off track by the fujiwhara effect and ended in the uk. is this the hurricane michael fish got so badly wrong?

    Iris was 1995. The storm you are thinking of was in 1987.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_storm


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    ...KATIA ALMOST A HURRICANE...

    5:00 PM AST Wed Aug 31
    Location: 14.6°N 42.6°W
    Max sustained: 70 mph
    Moving: WNW at 20 mph
    Min pressure: 990 mb

    000
    WTNT42 KNHC 311435
    TCDAT2

    TROPICAL STORM KATIA DISCUSSION NUMBER 10
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122011
    1100 AM AST WED AUG 31 2011

    KATIA REMAINS A WELL-ORGANIZED TROPICAL CYCLONE WITH DISTINCT
    BANDING FEATURES AND A DEVELOPING CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST. DVORAK
    CLASSIFICATIONS ARE T3.5 FROM BOTH AGENCIES AND THE CURRENT
    INTENSITY IS HELD AT 55 KT. THE SYSTEM HAS A WELL-DEFINED
    UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW PATTERN. AT THE MOMENT...IT DOES NOT APPEAR
    THAT THE DRY AIR ADJACENT TO THE STORM IS BEING ENTRAINED INTO THE
    CIRCULATION. THE SHIPS MODEL INDICATES THAT VERTICAL SHEAR WILL BE
    WEAK FOR THE NEXT DAY OR TWO WHICH SHOULD FAVOR STRENGTHENING AT
    LEAST FOR THE EARLIER PART OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. A LARGE
    UPPER-LEVEL LOW TO THE NORTHWEST OF KATIA COULD PLAY A ROLE IN THE
    INTENSITY OF THE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN THE LATTER PART OF THE
    FORECAST PERIOD. AS NOTED EARLIER...SOME OF THE GLOBAL MODELS
    SUGGEST THAT THIS LOW COULD PRODUCE INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR
    IN 4 TO 5 DAYS WHICH WOULD INHIBIT INTENSIFICATION. THE OFFICIAL
    INTENSITY FORECAST IS THE SAME AS THAT FROM THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY
    AND IS SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE NUMERICAL CONSENSUS.

    KATIA CONTINUES TO MOVE SWIFTLY TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST OR 285/18
    TO THE SOUTH OF A MID-TROPOSPHERIC SUBTROPICAL ANTICYCLONE. THE
    DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE IS IN RATHER GOOD AGREEMENT ON A CONTINUATION OF
    THIS WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TRACK FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS WITH SOME
    DECELERATION AS THE TROPICAL CYCLONE NEARS A WEAKNESS IN THE RIDGE.
    IN THE LATTER PART OF THE FORECAST PERIOD...MOST OF THE GUIDANCE
    SHOWS A TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AS KATIA APPROACHES THE SOUTHWEST
    SIDE OF THE SUBTROPICAL ANTICYCLONE. THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST
    FOR THIS ADVISORY PACKAGE IS AN UPDATE OF THE PREVIOUS ONE AND IS
    CLOSE TO THE VARIOUS MODEL CONSENSUS TRACKS.

    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INIT 31/1500Z 14.2N 40.8W 55 KT 65 MPH
    12H 01/0000Z 14.7N 43.3W 65 KT 75 MPH
    24H 01/1200Z 15.4N 46.3W 75 KT 85 MPH
    36H 02/0000Z 16.2N 48.7W 85 KT 100 MPH
    48H 02/1200Z 17.3N 51.0W 90 KT 105 MPH
    72H 03/1200Z 19.5N 54.5W 95 KT 110 MPH
    96H 04/1200Z 21.5N 57.5W 100 KT 115 MPH
    120H 05/1200Z 23.5N 60.5W 105 KT 120 MPH

    $$
    FORECASTER PASCH


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  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭eilejh


    NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
    TROPICAL STORM KATIA PUBLIC ADVISORY
    8:00 Discussion

    000
    WTNT32 KNHC 312038
    TCPAT2

    BULLETIN
    TROPICAL STORM KATIA ADVISORY NUMBER 11
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122011
    500 PM AST WED AUG 31 2011

    ...KATIA ALMOST A HURRICANE...


    SUMMARY OF 500 PM AST...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
    LOCATION...14.6N 42.6W
    ABOUT 1285 MI...2070 KM E OF THE LEEWARD ISLANDS
    MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/H
    PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 20 MPH...32 KM/H
    MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...990 MB...29.23 INCHES


    WATCHES AND WARNINGS
    THERE ARE NO COASTAL WATCHES OR WARNINGS IN EFFECT.


    DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
    AT 500 PM AST...2100 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM KATIA WAS
    LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 14.6 NORTH...LONGITUDE 42.6 WEST. KATIA IS
    MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 20 MPH...32 KM/H...AND THIS
    MOTION WITH A GRADUAL SLOWING OF FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED OVER THE
    NEXT 48 HOURS.

    MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 70 MPH...110
    KM/H.
    ..WITH HIGHER GUSTS. ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST
    DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND KATIA IS LIKELY TO BECOME A
    HURRICANE TONIGHT.

    TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 125 MILES...205 KM
    FROM THE CENTER.

    ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 990 MB...29.23 INCHES.


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭eilejh


    Satellite Images
    http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/trop-atl.html


    Katia is beautiful....looks like an embryo wrapping up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭eilejh


    Hurricane KATIA RSS Feed icon Storm Archive
    ...KATIA BECOMES THE SECOND HURRICANE OF THE SEASON...
    11:00 PM AST Wed Aug 31
    Location: 15.0°N 44.4°W
    Max sustained: 75 mph
    Moving: WNW at 20 mph
    Min pressure: 987 mb
    Public
    Advisory
    #12


  • Registered Users Posts: 327 ✭✭dermiek


    From NOAA:

    ...Katia Becomes Second Hurricane of Atlantic Season... Published: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:59:58 EDT Katia has strengthened and is now a hurricane —the second one of the 2011 Atlantic season. At 11:00 p.m. EDT, the center of Hurricane Katia was located near latitude 15.0 north, longitude 44.4 west, or about 1,165 miles east of the Leeward Islands. Katia is moving toward the west-northwest near 20 mph and this motion, with a gradual slowing of forward speed, is expected over the next 48 hours. Maximum sustained winds have increased to near 75 mph, with higher gusts. Katia is a Category One hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane wind scale. Additional strengthening is forecast during the next 48 hours and Katia could become a major hurricane by the weekend.


    http://www.weather.gov/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Ive no knowledge of storm formations but would they merge together to form a superstorm? sounds a bit like The Day After Tommorrow with this.

    Hopefully someone can correct me on this

    A lot of Low Pressure systems combine together in mid Atlantic and only form secondary lows usually nothing major


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    ...KATIA CHANGES LITTLE IN STRENGTH DURING THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS...

    5:00 AM AST Thu Sep 1
    Location: 15.2°N 45.9°W
    Max sustained: 75 mph
    Moving: W at 20 mph
    Min pressure: 987 mb


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭200motels


    Is this hurricane just going to blow itself out and wander around the Atlantic or will it hit land as a hurricane.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    200motels wrote: »
    Is this hurricane just going to blow itself out and wander around the Atlantic or will it hit land as a hurricane.

    It will almost certainly miss the Lesser Antilles to the northwest but beyond that is too early to know for sure because the models become too unreliable at that range. Most storms in the past that were in Katia's position ended up recurving back out to sea, so based on that the chances are it will do the same, but it's just too early to say for sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TheInquisitor


    The only thing in its favour right now is its tracking directly west at the moment. In fact lots of the models are now disagreeing with each other now. Some suggesting it curves up and out into the Atlantic others now starting to think it might touch Florida. But again thats days away and everything can change.

    The gulf is the interesting development at the moment. It seems to be near stationary and only moving very slowly northward. Winds are expected to become favorable for development later today and in those warm waters storms can grow very quickly!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    11:00 AM AST Thu Sep 1
    Location: 15.5°N 47.5°W
    Max sustained: 75 mph
    Moving: W at 18 mph
    Min pressure: 987 mb

    000
    WTNT42 KNHC 011450
    TCDAT2

    HURRICANE KATIA DISCUSSION NUMBER 14
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122011
    1100 AM AST THU SEP 01 2011

    KATIA HAS CHANGED LITTLE IN STRUCTURE DURING THE LAST SEVERAL HOURS.
    BASED ON MICROWAVE DATA...THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER IS LOCATED NEAR THE
    WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE CORE CONVECTION. A CURVED BAND STILL
    EXISTS OVER THE SOUTHERN SEMICIRCLE OF THE STORM...BUT CLOUD TOPS
    HAVE BEEN WARMING IN THIS BAND DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS. THE
    INITIAL WIND SPEED REMAINS AT 65 KT FOR THIS ADVISORY...IN
    AGREEMENT WITH THE LATEST SATELLITE CLASSIFICATIONS.

    SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR OF ABOUT 15 KT...AS ANALYZED BY UW-CIMSS...IS
    CURRENTLY AFFECTING KATIA. THIS SHEAR IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN
    UPPER-LEVEL LOW LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE HURRICANE. THE
    UPPER LOW IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO IMPOSE MODERATE SHEAR OVER
    KATIA FOR ANOTHER 24 TO 36 HOURS. IN ADDITION...SOME DRY AIR
    APPEARS TO BE ENTRAINING INTO THE CIRCULATION OF KATIA AND
    THIS...IN COMBINATION WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED SHEAR...COULD INHIBIT
    SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT IN THE SHORT-TERM. BEYOND 36 HOURS...THE
    GLOBAL MODELS SHOW THE UPPER LOW LIFTING OUT...CREATING A MORE
    FAVORABLE UPPER-LEVEL WIND PATTERN. THEREFORE...STEADY
    STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST IN THE LONGER RANGE. THE OFFICIAL
    FORECAST IS LOWERED SLIGHTLY FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE IN THE
    SHORT-TERM...BUT STILL BRINGS KATIA TO A MAJOR HURRICANE IN A FEW
    DAYS.

    KATIA IS MOVING WESTWARD AT 16 KT TO THE SOUTH OF A SUBTROPICAL
    HIGH. THE HURRICANE IS EXPECTED TO SLOW DOWN AND TURN TO THE
    WEST-NORTHWEST DURING THE NEXT 12-24 HOURS AS IT APPROACHES A
    WEAKNESS IN THE RIDGE. THE MODEL GUIDANCE BECOMES VERY DIVERGENT IN
    4 TO 5 DAYS WITH THE UKMET...NOGAPS...AND GFDL MODELS ON THE SOUTH
    SIDE OF THE ENVELOPE AND THE GFS...ECMWF...AND HWRF MODELS ON THE
    NORTH SIDE. THIS SPREAD APPEARS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE STRENGTH
    OF A TROUGH MOVING OVER THE NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES AND THE
    POSITION OF THE SUBTROPICAL HIGH. THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS
    ONLY NUDGED A LITTLE TO THE LEFT...IN PART BECAUSE OF THE INITIAL
    MOTION AND POSITION...AND IS VERY NEAR THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS.

    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INIT 01/1500Z 15.5N 47.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
    12H 02/0000Z 16.1N 49.5W 70 KT 80 MPH
    24H 02/1200Z 17.0N 51.7W 75 KT 85 MPH
    36H 03/0000Z 18.0N 53.4W 85 KT 100 MPH
    48H 03/1200Z 19.0N 55.0W 95 KT 110 MPH
    72H 04/1200Z 20.8N 58.0W 100 KT 115 MPH
    96H 05/1200Z 22.3N 61.0W 105 KT 120 MPH
    120H 06/1200Z 23.8N 64.0W 105 KT 120 MPH

    $$
    FORECASTER CANGIALOSI/ZELINSKY


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    If I were in Bermuda I'd be watching things very carefully. The GFS earlier had an almost direct hit. It certainly looks like any hit would be more likely to be on the storm's bad side as it's more and more likely to pass to the west of the country. It's been throwing up surprises for even the NHC, though, so it's all to play for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭unitedrover


    It would be tough living in them islands during hurricane season. Most of them places are very poor too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Interesting difference between the GFS and some of the other models.

    160aoas.gif



    And the updated 12Z :

    2zq60wx.gif

    GFS more west but still the furthest north after a few days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz



    The gulf is the interesting development at the moment. It seems to be near stationary and only moving very slowly northward. Winds are expected to become favorable for development later today and in those warm waters storms can grow very quickly!

    That'll be a monster if it starts spinning and doesn't get up speed....so much moisture and inflow from W GoM on the water vapour images. Could basically make landfall anywhere.

    http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/gulfwv.html

    I know this is the katia thread but if/when this forms it'll be making landfall before katia I reckon...

    [edit] Also a large area of spin evident a few hundred miles ESE of cape Haterras, not sure if it's tropical...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    12Z ECM taking Katia quite far west on this run.

    12zeurotropical500mbslpv.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Katia has been downgraded to a Tropical Storm due to shear. It is forecast to soon regain hurricane strength again and the NHC is still forecasting Katia to become a major hurricane.

    The latest discussion highlights the split with the models regarding the late period track:



    TROPICAL STORM KATIA DISCUSSION NUMBER 15

    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122011

    500 PM AST THU SEP 01 2011

    KATIA HAS TAKEN THE APPEARANCE OF A SHEARED TROPICAL CYCLONE.
    VISIBLE AND MICROWAVE SATELLITE IMAGERY CONTINUE TO INDICATE THAT
    THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER IS DISPLACED TO THE WEST OF THE CONVECTION.
    THE CURVED BAND THAT WAS LOCATED SOUTH OF THE CENTER HAS
    DISSIPATED...AND CONVECTION IS NOW LIMITED TO THE NORTHEAST
    QUADRANT OF THE SYSTEM. BASED ON A BLEND OF DVORAK CI AND T NUMBERS
    FROM SAB AND TAFB...THE INTENSITY HAS BEEN LOWERED TO 60 KT FOR
    THIS ADVISORY.

    UW-CIMMS SHEAR ANALYSIS CONTINUES TO INDICATE THAT SOUTHWESTERLY
    SHEAR OF ABOUT 15 KT IS CURRENTLY IMPACTING KATIA. AN UPPER-LEVEL
    LOW LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE CYCLONE APPEARS TO BE THE
    PRIMARY SOURCE OF THIS SHEAR. KATIA IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO
    INTERACT WITH THIS LOW FOR THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS. AFTER
    THAT...THE UPPER-LEVEL LOW IS EXPECTED TO LIFT TO THE
    NORTH...RESULTING IN A MORE CONDUCIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR
    INTENSIFICATION. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST HAS BEEN LOWERED SLIGHTLY
    DUE TO THE MARGINAL ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE SHORT
    TERM...HOWEVER IT STILL BRINGS KATIA TO A MAJOR HURRICANE IN A FEW
    DAYS.


    KATIA CONTINUES TO MOVE TO THE WEST AT 16 KT. IT IS EXPECTED TO SLOW
    DOWN AND BEGIN A GRADUAL TURN TO THE NORTHWEST AS IT APPROACHES A
    WEAKNESS IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. THE GFS...ECMWF...AND HFIP
    CONSENSUS MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT FOR THE FIRST 3 DAYS. AFTER
    THAT THERE IS MORE UNCERTAINTY IN THE FORECAST AS THE MODEL SPREAD
    INCREASES. SOME MODELS SUGGEST A TURN TOWARD THE WEST AS THE
    SUBTROPICAL RIDGE REBUILDS TO THE NORTH OF KATIA...WHILE OTHERS
    SUGGEST THAT THE WEAKNESS WILL PERSIST...BRINGING THE CYCLONE
    FARTHER NORTH.
    THE OFFICIAL FORECAST LIES BETWEEN THESE SCENARIOS
    AND IS VERY CLOSE TO THE HFIP CONSENSUS.

    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INIT 01/2100Z 16.1N 49.2W 60 KT 70 MPH
    12H 02/0600Z 16.8N 51.0W 65 KT 75 MPH
    24H 02/1800Z 17.7N 52.9W 70 KT 80 MPH
    36H 03/0600Z 18.7N 54.6W 75 KT 85 MPH
    48H 03/1800Z 19.7N 56.1W 85 KT 100 MPH
    72H 04/1800Z 21.6N 59.0W 95 KT 110 MPH
    96H 05/1800Z 23.5N 62.0W 100 KT 115 MPH
    120H 06/1800Z 25.5N 65.0W 105 KT 120 MPH

    $$
    FORECASTER ZELINSKY/CANGIALOSI


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    18Z GFS brings Katia closer to the US east coast:

    2415zs6.gif

    NOGAPS even closer:
    ngp10prp180troplant.gif

    Also, the Invest in the Gulf of Mexico has been renumbered, so we will have a new Tropical Depression or Tropical Storm classified in the next few hours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    Not looking at all good for Bermuda on the gfs, definitely looks to be heading in the general direction of the island either way but hopefully they get lucky

    at201112_5day.gif

    New depression thirteen has formed in the GoM as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    A turn to the left at the end of the latest forecast track.

    2d7iqkm.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    UKMET is way south. Other models are in fairly good agreement on the general motion of Katia for the next several days.

    28sm3kj.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Joe Bastardi believe Katia will move further west than the models show- "Katia will be further west than models, which are now back to near 72.5 west. Yesterday they only had to 67 west"


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Katia is back to hurricane status. Intensity forecast dropped a bit. No track change. UKMET dropped. We'll have to wait and see what the 12Z models do.
    000
    WTNT42 KNHC 021454
    TCDAT2

    HURRICANE KATIA DISCUSSION NUMBER 18
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122011
    1100 AM AST FRI SEP 02 2011

    THE CONVECTIVE DEPICTION OF KATIA HAS IMPROVED THIS MORNING AS BOTH
    MICROWAVE IMAGERY FROM SSMIS AND CONVENTIONAL VISIBLE SATELLITE
    IMAGERY INDICATE THAT AN EYE MAY BE FORMING. BECAUSE OF THE
    IMPROVED STRUCTURE...BOTH TAFB AND SAB DVORAK CLASSIFICATIONS CAME
    IN AT A 4.0...OR 65 KT...AS DID A 1053Z CIMSS AMSU INTENSITY
    ESTIMATE. THUS KATIA HAS REGAINED HURRICANE STATUS.

    THE HURRICANE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT ABOUT 12
    KT...AS IT IS BEING ADVECTED AROUND THE SOUTHWEST PERIPHERY OF A
    DEEP-LAYER RIDGE. KATIA SHOULD MOVE TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST OR
    NORTHWEST FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS AT A SLIGHTLY SLOWER RATE OF SPEED.
    ALL OF THE RELIABLE GUIDANCE...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE UKMET WHICH
    HAS A MUCH MORE EQUATORWARD SOLUTION DUE TO A SHORT-WAVE TROUGH OFF
    OF THE U.S. EAST COAST LIFTING OUT TO THE NORTHEAST MORE QUICKLY...
    IS IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT. THE TRACK FORECAST IS VERY SIMILAR TO
    THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY AND THE CONSENSUS OF THE GLOBAL AND HURRICANE
    MODELS LESS THE UKMET MODEL.

    DESPITE BECOMING A HURRICANE AGAIN...KATIA FACES A RELATIVELY
    HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT WITH SOUTHWEST VERTICAL SHEAR OF 15-20 KT
    SUGGESTED FOR THE NEXT DAY OR TWO
    . BEYOND 48 HOURS...THE SHEAR
    FROM THE GLOBAL MODELS IS ANTICIPATED TO DECREASE...BUT THE
    THERMODYNAMICS MAY NOT BE IDEAL WITH LOW HUMIDITIES AND A MORE
    STABLE ENVIRONMENT ANTICIPATED. SOME OF THE UPPER-LEVEL
    TEMPERATURE INCREASES ANALYZED IN THE SHIPS/LGEM STATISTICAL
    MODELS...HOWEVER...MAY BE SPURIOUS...AS THE STRONGER VORTEX FROM
    THE GFS MAY BE THE CAUSE OF THESE VALUES RATHER THAN THE
    ENVIRONMENT. THUS THE SHIPS/LGEM GUIDANCE MAY BE TOO LOW AT DAYS
    THREE TO FIVE. THE INTENSITY PREDICTION IS SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN A
    SHIPS/LGEM/HWRF BLEND BUT HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY DURING
    THE NEXT TWO DAYS.

    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INIT 02/1500Z 17.5N 52.4W 65 KT 75 MPH
    12H 03/0000Z 18.6N 53.8W 65 KT 75 MPH
    24H 03/1200Z 19.6N 55.2W 70 KT 80 MPH
    36H 04/0000Z 20.6N 56.4W 75 KT 85 MPH
    48H 04/1200Z 21.7N 57.9W 80 KT 90 MPH
    72H 05/1200Z 24.0N 61.0W 90 KT 105 MPH
    96H 06/1200Z 26.0N 64.0W 95 KT 110 MPH
    120H 07/1200Z 27.0N 67.0W 100 KT 115 MPH


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea




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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    ...KATIA BARELY A HURRICANE...

    11:00 AM AST Sat Sep 3
    Location: 19.6°N 55.8°W
    Max sustained: 75 mph
    Moving: NW at 10 mph
    Min pressure: 989 mb
    ZCZC MIATCDAT2 ALL
    TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

    HURRICANE KATIA DISCUSSION NUMBER 22
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122011
    1100 AM AST SAT SEP 03 2011

    SEVERAL MICROWAVE OVERPASSES FROM EARLIER THIS MORNING INDICATED
    THAT KATIA IS TILTED...WITH A MID-LEVEL MICROWAVE EYE DISPLACED
    ABOUT 20 N MI NORTH OF THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER. FINAL T-NUMBERS ARE
    DOWN TO T3.5 FROM BOTH SAB AND TAFB...ALTHOUGH CI NUMBERS ARE STILL
    HOLDING AT 4.0. UW-CIMSS ADT ESTIMATES HAVE BEEN DECREASING AND ARE
    NOW T4.1. KATIA WILL BE KEPT AS A HURRICANE FOR NOW...BUT IF TRENDS
    CONTINUE IT COULD ONCE AGAIN WEAKEN TO A TROPICAL STORM LATER
    TODAY.


    KATIA IS BEGINNING TO MOVE AROUND THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF A
    MID-LEVEL HIGH LOCATED OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC...AND TOWARDS A
    DEEP-LAYER TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
    THE UKMET...WHICH IS DISREGARDED IN THIS FORECAST...THE MODELS ARE
    IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON MAINTAINING A MOTION OF ABOUT 305 DEGREES AT 9
    TO 10 KT FOR THE NEXT 48 HOURS. BEYOND 72 HOURS...THE TRACK
    FORECAST BECOMES A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX AND PARTLY DEPENDS ON HOW
    TROPICAL STORM LEE AND U.S. EAST COAST TROUGHING EVOLVE OVER THAT
    TIME.
    AS AN EXAMPLE...THE ECMWF DEVELOPS A DEEP-LAYER CLOSED LOW
    OVER THE OHIO VALLEY BY DAY 5 WHILE THE GFS HAS A SHARP TROUGH
    ALMOST READY TO CLOSE OFF OVER NEW YORK AND PENNSYLVANIA. DESPITE
    THESE DIFFERENCES...BOTH MODELS HAVE SHIFTED TO THE EAST...WITH THE
    GFS BEING THE FASTEST DUE TO THE MORE PROGRESSIVE FLOW. THE NHC
    TRACK FORECAST IS ALSO SHIFTED TO THE EAST YET STILL LIES TO THE
    WEST OF THOSE USUALLY RELIABLE MODELS.

    STRONG SOUTHERLY SHEAR IS AFFECTING KATIA AND IS LIKELY ALLOWING DRY
    AIR TO ERODE THE DEEP CONVECTION ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE. THIS SHEAR
    IS EXPECTED TO PERSIST FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS OR SO...DURING WHICH
    TIME NO STRENGTHENING IS INDICATED IN THE FORECAST. THEREAFTER...
    THE SHIPS MODEL SHOWS THAT UPPER-LEVEL WINDS COULD BECOME MORE
    CONDUCIVE FOR STRENGTHENING...BUT THIS WILL ALL DEPEND ON THE
    LOCATION OF KATIA RELATIVE TO THE DEEP-LAYER TROUGH OR CLOSED LOW
    OVER THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. THE NHC INTENSITY FORECAST WILL
    CONTINUE TO INDICATE INTENSIFICATION BETWEEN DAYS 2 AND 4...AND IS
    STILL ABOVE THE INTENSITY CONSENSUS AND STATISTICAL MODELS.

    IT IS ADVISABLE NOT TO FOCUS ON SLIGHT FORECAST INTENSITY CHANGES
    NEAR THE MAJOR HURRICANE THRESHOLD OF 100 KT SINCE THERE IS VERY
    LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 95- AND 100-KT HURRICANE. BASED ON THE
    CURRENT FORECAST AND RECENT NHC INTENSITY ERRORS...AT THIS TIME
    THERE IS ROUGHLY A 50/50 CHANCE OF KATIA STILL BECOMING A MAJOR
    HURRICANE DURING THE NEXT 5 DAYS.


    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

    INIT 03/1500Z 19.6N 55.8W 65 KT 75 MPH
    12H 04/0000Z 20.3N 57.0W 65 KT 75 MPH
    24H 04/1200Z 21.3N 58.7W 65 KT 75 MPH
    36H 05/0000Z 22.5N 60.4W 70 KT 80 MPH
    48H 05/1200Z 23.7N 62.1W 75 KT 85 MPH
    72H 06/1200Z 26.5N 65.0W 85 KT 100 MPH
    96H 07/1200Z 29.5N 67.5W 95 KT 110 MPH
    120H 08/1200Z 32.0N 69.5W 90 KT 105 MPH

    $$
    FORECASTER BERG

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