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15-09-2019, 17:37   #61
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You think Mcgregor wouldnt be able to pick Gaethje apart?


If that fight does happen I say its the first time we will see Gaethje use his wrestling
Personally I feel that prime Conor, the one who knocked out Aldo and embarrassed Alvarez would be a serious proposition for Gaethje. He had incredible timing, accuracy and a really dangerous left hand. He can also fight going backwards and had a mental warfare game second to none. 2015/16 Conor would have stopped Gaethje whose approach at that time was simply to wade forward like a zombie and batter his opponents into submission without any regard for his own safety. There is just no way you could have given Conor that many opportunities to hit you and survived.

But I believe the version of Mcgregor that showed up against Khabib would get demolished. He has been out of the game for so long and stagnated or even regressed, while others like JG have stayed active and actually improved. The latter is on a tear at the moment and has real momentum while CM has fought once in the last 3 years and got destroyed. I know its a cliche at this stage, but all that early success and money really seems to have sated his hunger and derailed his mma career. I could be wrong, but I think Conor gets smoked by any of Khabib, Tony or Justin. As much as I loved the old Conor, I think the Mcregor era is clearly over.
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Posts moved - Use this thread for ALL Fight Night Events (Not main UFC cards) and if you are going to post event spoilers at least do it in here, it's not that hard!

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Had a great time at my first ever UFC event. Fight of the night was easily Connolly, the crowd were loving that one.

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Do you know Conor, is that how he reacts if he is not mentioned?
It's just the narrative that people have invented.

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Gaethje is an animal. McGregor doesn't want to go anywhere near him as he knows he will end the hype once and for all.

Gaethje should wait it out and fight the winner of khabib vs Tony.
Why would Gaethje duck out the massive payday, expecially if it's an easy fight as you say.

Of course, the whole "X is a different animal" was rolled out many times in the past.

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Think Mcgregor has to win a fight to even be considered.
Absolutely, even if it was availible, jumping straight back in would be a bad idea.

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This is something else for connelly to be fair, that 1lb pereira was over
worked out to be a costly one but what a debut that was.
I'd imagine it'll be a long time before he sees a payday like this again.

Tristan Connelly: $125,900 ($10,000 to show, $10,000 win bonus, $2,400 from Pereira for missing weight, $100,000 Fight of the Night bonus, $3,500 fight week incentive pay)
Almost 10x what he average expected earnings were.
That's such a career booster at that stage.
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Cowboy fights too much that's his biggest problem, trying to be a company man and he's really a punch bag for the higher ranked guys. He took a beating off Ferguson only 2 months ago and you can gaurantee he'll fight again before the end of the year.

He's not an elite fighter, he can't take himself seriously so don't know why anyone else would.
crazy statement to make
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16-09-2019, 09:58   #66
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crazy statement to make
Depends on what your definition is, to me he's not a top 5 title contender that to me is elite.
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Depends on what your definition is, to me he's not a top 5 title contender that to me is elite.
In my opinion your version of elite is flawed but each to their own.
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Depends on what your definition is, to me he's not a top 5 title contender that to me is elite.
Yeah he's the guy who loses to the guys I would consider elite (at the UFC level of course)
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Agreed

Cowboy isn’t, and has never been ‘elite’

Is a very game fighter but was never at the top level
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Disagree, of course he is top level. Has he been the very best no.
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Disagree, of course he is top level. Has he been the very best no.
Sorry now - but who has he ever beaten that’s elite?

His win over Ben Henderson was a bad one for Henderson off the back of losing the title

His win over Alvarez was his first UFC fight and it turns out Alvarez isn’t all that anyway.

He’s a consistent failure when a big fight is put up in front of him.
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So you just give some examples of him beating former champs but just make excuses for those wins. Jasus. Probably most of the champs in history weren't elite either in your eyes. Who the hell is elite then? 2 or 3 fighters in the world and that is it?
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So you just give some examples of him beating former champs but just make excuses for those wins. Jasus. Probably most of the champs in history weren't elite either in your eyes. Who the hell is elite then? 2 or 3 fighters in the world and that is it?
Sorry, what?

Ok, go on so - What has he done/who has he beaten to be considered elite? Fighting a million times and being a company-man doesn’t make him ‘elite’ I’d have thought.

Elite = Khabib, Jon Jones, Amanda Nunes, Max Holloway, Daniel Cormier, Henry Cejudo, Demetrious Johnson etc

To be even considered elite you have to have been a Champion imo.
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He's lost 6 of his last 10 fights.
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He's lost 6 of his last 10 fights.
I’ll half defend Cerrone that he’s obv been past his best for a long time - so even his last 10 fights was past his best.

I was at the fight in Gdańsk against Till and thought Cerrone completely phoned it in.

However, in saying that, he always tossed between wins and losses.

Not ‘elite’
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