Nissan Pulsar VZR

copeyhagen · 25-06-2008 9:46pm

thesoulfulldude wrote: »

whats not to have a clue about? little skobies drive civics, and you dont compare a civic to a bmw, end of

so every person that drives a civic is a "skobie"

well done.

and give me a jap car over a european car every time.

especially bmws

bmws are more common than hondas these days..round my way anyway.

thesoulfulldude · 25-06-2008 10:12pm

copeyhagen wrote: »

so every person that drives a civic is a "skobie"

well done.

and give me a jap car over a european car every time.

especially bmws

bmws are more common than hondas these days..round my way anyway.

yeah the majority are, them a little glanza's aka starlets are skobie magnets!

dont get me wrong i like jap cars, but jap cars end at the preformance, european cars have the comfert that you just dont get with a jap car. and i wonder why there so common? eh?

Tenzor07 · 25-06-2008 10:32pm

thesoulfulldude wrote: »

whats not to have a clue about? little skobies drive civics, and you dont compare a civic to a bmw, end of

Now your Stereotyping all Honda Civic drivers as "Skobies"??

thesoulfulldude · 25-06-2008 10:36pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Now your Stereotyping all Honda Civic drivers as "Skobies"??

no im saying skobies are attracted to them like moths, go up to a skobie and go 'what car would you like' the responce you'll get will be 'ahh jaysus i'd luv a civic or a bleedin glanza there bleedin massive so they iz'

FACT

Tenzor07 · 25-06-2008 10:52pm

thesoulfulldude wrote: »

no im saying skobies are attracted to them like moths, go up to a skobie and go 'what car would you like' the responce you'll get will be 'ahh jaysus i'd luv a civic or a bleedin glanza there bleedin massive so they iz'

Now your not only Stereotyping, but your marginalizing them as being of lower social class Dubliners!

Atomic Pineapple · 25-06-2008 11:09pm

thesoulfulldude wrote: »

FACT

Got any links to prove that its fact? :rolleyes:

You'll see just as many skangers driving bmw's as you would Hondas especially seeing as the bmw's are easy to insure and are rear wheel drive, I've seen plenty of golfs, bmw's, passats etcc with skangers driving them

Tenzor07 · 25-06-2008 11:11pm

draffodx wrote: »

Got any links to prove that its fact? :rolleyes:

You'll see just as many skangers driving bmw's as you would Hondas especially seeing as the bmw's are easy to insure and are rear wheel drive, I've seen plenty of golfs, bmw's, passats etcc with skangers driving them

I think this "guy" maybe related to the other Jap/Honda hater, "s.i.r"!

thesoulfulldude · 25-06-2008 11:17pm

draffodx wrote: »

Got any links to prove that its fact? :rolleyes:

You'll see just as many skangers driving bmw's as you would Hondas especially seeing as the bmw's are easy to insure and are rear wheel drive, I've seen plenty of golfs, bmw's, passats etcc with skangers driving them

http://www.bebo.com/HONDACIVICCLUB

look tru the members and comments, im not giving you links to peoples pages.

and no im sorry i dont know where your from but where im from the people driving bmw, passats, mercs, saabs ect are upper class business men! you might get the odd trav bag driving an old 3series but very rare!

thesoulfulldude · 25-06-2008 11:18pm

hey just to define what a scumbag is

S.I.R · 25-06-2008 11:27pm

draffodx wrote: »

Your only "off the power" as you put it when you want to be, anyone with experience driving a VTEC will have no trouble keeping it in the high power band width.

Thats the problem, you have to actually push a honda to get performance... i personally prefare cars with power all over the rev band ( such as bmws.... even 316i's. )

if you want a car that you can and should abuse all day long then by all means, every man to his own but its just my opinion...

as for the northsider bmw thing, its quiet comment a mate of mine has a 320i 1990 e36 beemer and well, tbh all i can say is fair play i know myself at that age i wont have a bmw.... most likly a fiesta or something small until my insurance is lowwer and i can afford road tax then i can get the e30 of my dreams.

Getting back on topic: has the OP seen any vsr's yet ?? well worth a test drive at the least, veiw as many as you can, dont buy the first one you see !!

also make sure theres a dyno sheet to back up performace figures.

Tenzor07 · 25-06-2008 11:29pm

thesoulfulldude wrote: »

i dont know where your from but where im from the people driving bmw, passats, mercs, saabs ect are upper class business men! you might get the odd trav bag driving an old 3series but very rare!

hahaha.. Did'nt know they had cars on the moon!

thesoulfulldude · 25-06-2008 11:33pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

hahaha.. Did'nt know they had cars on the moon!

Ha ha ha ha.... ha........ ha..........................ha.......................

Tenzor07 · 25-06-2008 11:50pm

S.I.R wrote: »

as for the northsider bmw thing, its quiet comment a mate of mine has a 320i 1990 e36 beemer and well, tbh all i can say is fair play i know myself at that age i wont have a bmw.... most likly a fiesta or something small until my insurance is lowwer and i can afford road tax then i can get the e30 of my dreams.

Your not even old enough to legally drive id say, so where dya get your messed up views of VTEC's from? Magazines?

B00MSTICK · 26-06-2008 12:26am

R_H_C_P wrote:

The only Mitsubishi I would be interested in would be an Fto. But I will see how much they would go for.

I got mine less than a week ago for sub €4500. Bargain price. You should be able to get a very nice 98+ model with your budget.

I wanted something a bit different without the "scumbag/boy racer" image (not saying all you civic/teg owners are scumbags, but it only takes a minority to create a rep)

Faster than a Civic R anyway and only a bit slower than a 'teg R. Looks better too IMO.

Its impossible not to smile when MIVEC kicks in and you just listen to the sound of the V6...

Surprising easy on the petrol for me anyway.

I'll throw up some pics tomorrow once I get her clean.

Atomic Pineapple · 26-06-2008 12:40am

thesoulfulldude wrote: »

http://www.bebo.com/HONDACIVICCLUB

look tru the members and comments, im not giving you links to peoples pages.

and no im sorry i dont know where your from but where im from the people driving bmw, passats, mercs, saabs ect are upper class business men! you might get the odd trav bag driving an old 3series but very rare!

Your using a bebo page to prove that all owners of hondas are skangers? Theres no denying that theres alot of them, in the nearest town to me theres about 4 ****mobiles with skangers driving them, but I;m apart of the Integra owners club and all the members there are extremely mature and nothing like skangers at all.

I know of 3 bmw's with lexus lights and stupid looking bodykits on them in the town too driven by skangers as well, and theres plenty of people like that driving the likes of audi a3's a4's, bmw's (maybe not the expensive ones) plenty of golfs and passats.

S.I.R wrote: »

Thats the problem, you have to actually push a honda to get performance... i personally prefare cars with power all over the rev band ( such as bmws.... even 316i's. )

if you want a car that you can and should abuse all day long then by all means, every man to his own but its just my opinion...

as for the northsider bmw thing, its quiet comment a mate of mine has a 320i 1990 e36 beemer and well, tbh all i can say is fair play i know myself at that age i wont have a bmw.... most likly a fiesta or something small until my insurance is lowwer and i can afford road tax then i can get the e30 of my dreams.

Getting back on topic: has the OP seen any vsr's yet ?? well worth a test drive at the least, veiw as many as you can, dont buy the first one you see !!

also make sure theres a dyno sheet to back up performace figures.

True the honda has to be pushed but that was always the design idea, there by no means the perfect car or for everybody, I'd advise anyone thinking of one to take a good long test drive in one and see if they can adapt there driving style to suit the car because there gutless at low revs.

cheap bmw rwd cars are gonna be bought up by skangers for "diffen" or whatever its called.

Its Vzr S.I.R

Yeh the simplest thing to do is take a test drive in both, the civic will wow you though if you've never driven anything like it before because of its kick, so take a step back and compare the two ro see what suits you, remember the Vzr wont have high torque figures either but its power will kick in more smoothly

Atomic Pineapple · 26-06-2008 12:43am

B00MSTICK wrote: »

I got mine less than a week ago for sub €4500. Bargain price. You should be able to get a very nice 98+ model with your budget.

I wanted something a bit different without the "scumbag/boy racer" image (not saying all you civic/teg owners are scumbags, but it only takes a minority to create a rep)

Faster than a Civic R anyway and only a bit slower than a 'teg R. Looks better too IMO.

Its impossible not to smile when MIVEC kicks in and you just listen to the sound of the V6...

Surprising easy on the petrol for me anyway.

I'll throw up some pics tomorrow once I get her clean.

Lovely Car,

Definately get pics up and the sound of that V6 is lovely........

thesoulfulldude · 26-06-2008 12:43am

draffodx wrote: »

I;m apart of the Integra owners club and all the members there are extremely mature and nothing like skangers at all.

INTEGRA thats a diffrent story, luckly most skangers cant afford/get insurance on them! the reason civics attract scangers is there cheep, powerful and lots of mods available

Atomic Pineapple · 26-06-2008 12:47am

thesoulfulldude wrote: »

INTEGRA thats a diffrent story, luckly most skangers cant afford/get insurance on them! the reason civics attract scangers is there cheep, powerful and lots of mods available

true enough, proper mature ek9 owners are far from skangers but I know what you mean

Yakult · 26-06-2008 1:18am

I was watching a video of a standard Vzr vs. standard Type R
The Vzr did beat it. But from the look it the Type R had that bite to it that the Vzr did. The Vzr sorta slowly gained but in the long run it was better.

I might be going up to dublin this weekend to test drive both to see what I feel is best. So by next week I hopefully will have chosen what I want.

B00MSTICK wrote: »

I got mine less than a week ago for sub €4500. Bargain price. You should be able to get a very nice 98+ model with your budget.

I wanted something a bit different without the "scumbag/boy racer" image (not saying all you civic/teg owners are scumbags, but it only takes a minority to create a rep)

Faster than a Civic R anyway and only a bit slower than a 'teg R. Looks better too IMO.

Its impossible not to smile when MIVEC kicks in and you just listen to the sound of the V6...

Surprising easy on the petrol for me anyway.

I'll throw up some pics tomorrow once I get her clean.

I would be all over that because I myself love ftos. But they are 2 litre engines right? 2 litre mivecs at that. I think getting insured might be a little hassle. But if I can get a nice example for roughly the price you did I definally would consider it.

Look forward to the pictures!

Also, I think stereotyping civic owners as skangers is pretty sad. Around where I am. All the owners of serious type R's are pretty mature. They are young (not skangers btw) but they dont do the bolix because they have invested alot into their pride and joy's. I could guarantee the immature ones are driving replicas trying to show off their car and how powerfull it is.

^^I would love an integra, but no hope on getting insured I would say.

copeyhagen · 26-06-2008 10:51am

hondas have to be pushed hard becuase thats the whole point of the vtec.

most beemers are muck to drive apart from mtechs and m's obviously.

my brother had a 320 and it was fun at the time but compared to jap cars i have driven since it was muck.

hondas are bombproof, will last practicaly forever, and i hear that the vtecs will almost never go bust on the engine.

look on carzone 3 series bmws can be picked up for next to nothin but theyre waaaay more common than ek9's.

had a guy text me lat night lookin for a swap for my car for his 00 3 series m tech. just tole him wasnt interested.

would rather hold off and get myself the dc2. thats the plan.

and im a bit weary that the vzr would be faster than an ek9.. actually im very weary!!

Atomic Pineapple · 26-06-2008 11:22am

R_H_C_P wrote: »

I was watching a video of a standard Vzr vs. standard Type R
The Vzr did beat it. But from the look it the Type R had that bite to it that the Vzr did. The Vzr sorta slowly gained but in the long run it was better.

If its the same video I'm thinking of then thats a VZR N1, which can be classed as standard but its a different version to the normal VZR altogether, the N1 has 200bhp compared to around 170bp for the normal VZR

Test driving both is the best way alright, dont forget to let us know how you get on!

copeyhagen · 26-06-2008 1:25pm

yeh lets get back on topic. minus the sh1te

where you goin to test drive. japcars wont elt you test drive afaik

B00MSTICK · 26-06-2008 4:13pm

Ya the VZR N1 has the highest engine cc/bhp ratio of any N/A IIRC...

26-06-2008 4:51pm

Here's a comparison between vzr N1 and Ctr,altho its an N1 which isnt really comparable to a stock vzr at all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnYqupXMSr0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmLcfNYbYQE&feature=related

N1's are rare,only a handfull of them over here,but trust me theres no comparision between a stock vzr vs stock Ctr.Civic also has a better interior feel to it,carbon style surrounds and clocks,the recaros ect and dash imo is nicer whereas the vzr feels nothing special.

If you drive an Sir civic and then a vzr you'l notice them to be very much simular,but then drive an type r and you'll feel the difference.

Im not sure what vzrs are like for parts nowadays but going back a few years you were doing well finding a manifold and exhaust for them,bodykit wise they were impossible to find add ons for.

projectgtr · 26-06-2008 5:44pm

yet another thread being Sh1t stirred by our annoying regular ************ how in the name of god is he not banned or even warned yet funny thing is ill proberbly get a warning for this :rolleyes:

Any ways back to topic, op listen to eireal and draffodx they are talking sense, if its between the vzr and a CTR its CTR all the way now if its a N1 now you have a tough decision on your hands

Atomic Pineapple · 26-06-2008 6:17pm

Pulsar N1 Vzr - http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Nissan/Pulsar/VZR-N1/673981/

CTR EK9 - http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Honda/Civic/TYPE-R/1087375/

Your money wont get as good an ek9 as a vzr though

Yakult · 26-06-2008 10:05pm

draffodx wrote: »

If its the same video I'm thinking of then thats a VZR N1, which can be classed as standard but its a different version to the normal VZR altogether, the N1 has 200bhp compared to around 170bp for the normal VZR

Test driving both is the best way alright, dont forget to let us know how you get on!

Oh wait. yeah that was the n1

My bad!

And ya will do

So I guess it means Im more than likely gonna get a Type R.

^That ctr is so damn nice, too bad 2000e over budget

26-06-2008 11:45pm

Just hit as many of the importers you can in a day and drive as many as you can of either car,With either one your going to have to drive them on abit to both check there running properly and to see what you think of performance so dont be afraid to open up abit once the surrounds are safe and allow.

I know you mentioned jap cars and they have a bad rep,but i fitted an alarm to an itr a guy bought from them last week and it was a good clean car,luck of the draw i guess

Atomic Pineapple · 26-06-2008 11:57pm

eireal wrote: »

I know you mentioned jap cars and they have a bad rep,but i fitted an alarm to an itr a guy bought from them last week and it was a good clean car,luck of the draw i guess

was probably taken as a trade in

Yakult · 27-06-2008 1:38am

eireal wrote: »

Just hit as many of the importers you can in a day and drive as many as you can of either car,With either one your going to have to drive them on abit to both check there running properly and to see what you think of performance so dont be afraid to open up abit once the surrounds are safe and allow.

I know you mentioned jap cars and they have a bad rep,but i fitted an alarm to an itr a guy bought from them last week and it was a good clean car,luck of the draw i guess

Thats the plan I hope.
so they wont mind if you floor it a little to see its performance once it area is quiet?

Well I might stay away from there unless I see a auction sheet.
Also would it be better to buy private? I know price wise it would, but I would be a bit skeptical about it myself.

draffodx wrote: »

was probably taken as a trade in

haha :pac:

Nissan Pulsar VZR

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