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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I've seen this on Reddit, so I don't know how trustworthy the source is. However...

    "the first performance of Beethoven's 9th symphony on Japanese soil was done by German POWs on 1st June, 1918"


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,134 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    New Home wrote: »
    I've seen this on Reddit a minute ago, so I don't know how trustworthy the source is. However...

    "the first performance of Beethoven's 9th symphony on Japanese soil was done by German POWs on 1st June, 1918"

    apparently it is true. i cant figure out how german POWs ended up in Japan though. there were some korean (or maybe it was mongolian?) troops captured fighting for the germans in Normandy in WW2. they had fought against the russians and been captured. while fighting for the russians they were captured by the germans and ended up defending the beaches of normandy.

    https://www.city.naruto.tokushima.jp/contents/daiku/english/treasure.html#:~:text=In%20commemoration%20of%20the%20first,Hall%20in%201982%20during%20which


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,723 ✭✭✭Evade


    apparently it is true. i cant figure out how german POWs ended up in Japan though
    Germany had colonies in the Pacific and Japan took the opportunity while Germany were preoccupied in Europe to take them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    Saw this today and it surprised me

    Rosa parks was alive to witness hurricane Katrina.

    Seems like she was from a much more bygone era


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Evade wrote: »
    Germany had colonies in the Pacific and Japan took the opportunity while Germany were preoccupied in Europe to take them.
    That's correct. Qingdao, for example, is a coastal city in China. It's famous for its brewery, which makes Tsingtao beer. It was set up by the Germans. Very popular with expats over there.

    Tsingtao is to Qingdao as Peking is to Beijing or Canton is to Guangdong - it's the old phonetic spelling from before they invented modern pinyin.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Evade wrote: »
    Germany had colonies in the Pacific and Japan took the opportunity while Germany were preoccupied in Europe to take them.

    "Western" Samoa, northern Papua New Guinea among them.

    The Bismarck Archipelago to the NE of PNG contains a New Ireland and a New Britain as it happens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Rewatched the LOTR trilogy the last day, and looked up some of the cast. The fellowship all got tattoos of '9' to commemorate their time on the films. The actors were also a lot older than i had thought... Aragorn is now 61. Pippin is nearly 52!


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,134 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Evade wrote: »
    Germany had colonies in the Pacific and Japan took the opportunity while Germany were preoccupied in Europe to take them.

    japan and germany were allies. why would they hold german troops as POWs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Ineedaname


    japan and germany were allies. why would they hold german troops as POWs?

    That was in World War 2. In World War 1 Japan fought against the Germans.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,134 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Ineedaname wrote: »
    That was in World War 2. In World War 1 Japan fought against the Germans.

    i never copped the date. i'm an idiot.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,550 ✭✭✭Mollyb60


    The Graves Registration Service (US) in WW1 were responsible for cataloging and keeping track of every single soldier buried during the war. There are extensive records of every soldier, which includes their unit, cause of death, location of grave, emergency contacts, etc.

    Soldiers were often originally buried in temporary graves (sometimes at a roadside or near the front line where they fell), then, after the war, the soldiers were either re-interred in larger consolidated graveyards donated by the French/Belgian and British governments or were repatriated to the US. Maps of the temporary graves could look like this:
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    https://unwritten-record.blogs.archives.gov/2018/11/06/newly-digitized-series-initial-burial-plats-for-world-war-i-american-soldiers/

    Zooniverse currently has a project to transcribe the cards which I'm finding incredibly interesting/sad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,392 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    Glendale, CA is the largest city in the US without a directly-elected mayor.

    Liverpool is the largest city in the UK with a directly-elected mayor, excluding metropolitan mayors such as that of London.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Today is Oiche Fheile Eoin, was always a big part of the summer when I was growing up, and there still should be plenty of bonfires lit out west this evening.
    It has its roots in pagan rituals, to celebrate midsummer and the turning of the days to get shorter from here on in. There were a number of rituals done for good luck for the rest of the year, such as jumping across the fire 3 times for good luck
    In later years it was a good excuse to burn any rubbish or anything that needed rid off - tyres and mattresses mostly!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    On the 28th of June, 1920, a small company of mostly Irish soldiers in the Connaught Rangers, part of the British army holding India at the time, refused to take orders in support of the Irish struggle for independence at the time.

    Mostly natives of Ireland, some British born soldiers also joined the mutiny in protest at the British treatment of small nations which many viewed as at odds with their joining the army to prevent Germany from mistreating other small nations.

    https://twitter.com/131Weeks/status/1277164275346345985?s=19

    https://independentleft.ie/connaught-rangers-mutiny-1920/

    It's a pity that so little is known about this incident in Ireland and so little has been done to remember it and the many men involved in it.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yup, "Mumia" was long in use as a medicine made up of various waxes and bitumens and very often the ground up corpses of mummified humans, usually Egyptian. They were sometimes used whole or in part in fires too. Thrown on and burnt up as the bitumen in their preparation burned like a charm. There are even tales of them being thrown into the boilers of steam trains.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭Ryath


    They were also used to make paint! Mummy Brown also called Egyptian brown and caput mortum ("dead man's head")


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    On the 28th of June, 1920, a small company of mostly Irish soldiers in the Connaught Rangers, part of the British army holding India at the time, refused to take orders in support of the Irish struggle for independence at the time.

    It's a pity that so little is known about this incident in Ireland and so little has been done to remember it and the many men involved in it.
    RTE's take on it.
    https://www.rte.ie/archives/2020/0623/1149159-connaught-rangers-mutiny/


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcShRGVrtYKOttF-fVDbo3Gx2SKw1o7EKIbTeg&usqp=CAU

    In 2012, Russian scientists were able to regenerate a Silene stenophylla plant from a seed found in Siberian permafrost that was more than 30,000 years old.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    WMO's committee of experts on weather and climate extremes also reported a new world record for the duration of a lightning flash, with a single flash that developed continuously over northern Argentina on March 4, 2019 lasting for a full 16.73 seconds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,378 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Le Mans 24 Hour race cars are almost all right hand drive, or the driver sits in the centre. There are almost no left hand drive ones.

    Reason: Le Mans is a clockwise circuit, so cars mostly go around right hand bends, thus helping the balance of the car if the driver is on the 'corner' side of the car more often. As they turn into the corner, g-forces push the drivers weight towards the middle of the car, not the outside as would be the case with a LHD.

    But: As most of the drivers are used to driving LHD, the gearsticks were on the right as well, i.e. between the driver and the door. Made getting in and out every 2 hours a bit awkward, but it's better for driving. Many of them now have paddle shifters, so it's not such and issue, but they still sit on the right.

    Here's an example:

    bigg+Small+1202917825.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭LostinBlanch


    When Victor Hugo died all the brothels in Paris closed so the workers could pay their respects.
    There's loads more in that article.


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The first place airplanes were used in warfare,was west waterford during the war of independance


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Wasn't that after World War I, where planes were used?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,134 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The first place airplanes were used in warfare,was west waterford during the war of independance

    Huh? the war of independence took place from 1919-21. planes were used in warfare long before that.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Libya 1911 wasn't it ?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Le Mans 24 Hour race cars are almost all right hand drive, or the driver sits in the centre. There are almost no left hand drive ones.

    Reason: Le Mans is a clockwise circuit, so cars mostly go around right hand bends, thus helping the balance of the car if the driver is on the 'corner' side of the car more often. As they turn into the corner, g-forces push the drivers weight towards the middle of the car, not the outside as would be the case with a LHD.
    You can see this RHD thing in sports/race cars well into the 1950's even in LHD countries. If you look at Bugatti and Alfa Romeo race cars of the 20's and 30's they're RHD. Ferrari another later example in the 50's. Their "Corsa"(track/race) cars were RHD their "Strada"(street) were LHD. Ferrari's first car to wear his badge.

    df0665e10d4cdb5f57bcb96efbb9ef15.jpg

    Again because of European tracks tending towards more Right hand bends. Though by the 60's even their LeMans cars were LHD.

    Another type of car in the early days you see as mostly RHD in LHD countries were limousines. The idea being that the chauffeur was closest to the path and didn't have to walk around the car to open the door for his passengers.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭LostinBlanch


    Wibbs wrote: »
    You can see this RHD thing in sports/race cars well into the 1950's even in LHD countries. If you look at Bugatti and Alfa Romeo race cars of the 20's and 30's they're RHD. Ferrari another later example in the 50's. Their "Corsa"(track/race) cars were RHD their "Strada"(street) were LHD. Ferrari's first car to wear his badge.

    df0665e10d4cdb5f57bcb96efbb9ef15.jpg

    Again because of European tracks tending towards more Right hand bends. Though by the 60's even their LeMans cars were LHD.

    Another type of car in the early days you see as mostly RHD in LHD countries were limousines. The idea being that the chauffeur was closest to the path and didn't have to walk around the car to open the door for his passengers.

    Jaysus Wibbs, you wouldn't want to have a crash in that thing. Thin tyres, no seatbelts or any kind of bars if you had a roll. It reminds me of Michael Schumacher after he had a spin in a vintage F1 car and he was asked what he thought of it. "Scary" was his reply.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Well in the pre war days of motor racing with Nouvalari and the like they considered seatbelts to be a danger and preferred to be thrown clear of the car in the event of an oopsie. Which considering the cars were usually as lightweight as possible(except for Bentleys*) and were basically tinfoil and piping and would crumple like such and burst into flames probably not the worst option of the two.




    *Bugatti once said Mr Bentley makes the fastest trucks in the world

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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