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How many doctors have PhD's?

  • 25-08-2016 12:34am
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    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭dropinthocean


    Can't seem to find the answer online - does anyone know what % of irish/UK medical doctors have also done a PhD?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I imagine it is quite small, based on the number being pursued in UCD vs the number actually doing medicine although I admit there is a huge scope for error there. Maybe different in other institutions.

    Noticed more and more PHd's going back for postgrad medicine in recent years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭dropinthocean


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I imagine it is quite small, based on the number being pursued in UCD vs the number actually doing medicine although I admit there is a huge scope for error there. Maybe different in other institutions.

    Noticed more and more PHd's going back for postgrad medicine in recent years.

    You also have the medical doctors who do a PhD after qualifying..... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    You also have the medical doctors who do a PhD after qualifying..... :rolleyes:

    It takes them so long to qualify as a doctor, adding a PhD must be very low on the list of things to do.

    Besides, if someone shouts for a doctor, not sure there would be many that want a person with a PhD. :D




  • Just those who seek a university career or one in research. Very few doctors that you would meet in hospitals or clinics would have PhDs. They would have post grad studies, but not specifically PhDs.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    You also have the medical doctors who do a PhD after qualifying..... :rolleyes:

    I was pretty much including them in my fist comment, a small percentage, would appear to be a quite small percentage of medical doctors.

    A better way of putting it would be a noticeable percentage of PhD students are already MDs or are in the process (biology/physiology/bichemistry area based PhDs, skewed by those MDs doing postgrad research and I mistake for PhD students) but an almost unnoticeable % of MDs have or are aiming for a PhD (I imagine alot less than 0.1%).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Most doctors qualify with MB BCh BAO and might do an MD later in their career


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    goose2005 wrote: »
    Most doctors qualify with MB BCh BAO and might do an MD later in their career

    You are completely correct. People (and myself, probably just me,) often use the term MD thanks to television to refer to a Medical Doctor rather than what it is for, a "Doctor of Medicine". Apologies for the confusion. In my previous posts, I was referring to people who had graduated with a bachelor of medicine, bachelor of surgery and all that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    A small number. Some Irish doctors do an MD after basic qualification which is a PhD for doctors, not a basic degree which MD means in America. I remember being reminded at the university when I picked up a transcript of my marks that I was not a ‘proper’ doctor.

    In China, there are many docs who are both MBs and PhDs. Its quite common in North America on the research side.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭seagull


    I have a cousin who's a medical practitioner. He specialised, and went from being Doctor to Mister. Then he did a PhD and went back to being Doctor.


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